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Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad

There are 3146 comments on the Examiner.com story from Sep 14, 2013, titled Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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#2266 Feb 12, 2014
Thinking wrote:
I'll send you both a virtual bottle of Courvoisier.
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Both? Did I say man? Sorry I ment men. Lol. I would prefer Remy martin xo if you don't mind. Thanks
Thinking

Northampton, UK

#2267 Feb 12, 2014
I really love that too. The Remy Martin XO, I mean!
ChristineM wrote:
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Both? Did I say man? Sorry I ment men. Lol. I would prefer Remy martin xo if you don't mind. Thanks

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#2268 Feb 13, 2014
Thinking wrote:
I really love that too. The Remy Martin XO, I mean!
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It’s nice, I went on a tour around the factory a few years ago, the smell of the angels share is real heaven

Next time you are over in France see if you can get some Louis Roque La Vieille Noix (Walnut Liqueur)

It’s difficult to find so here’s a link to the distillery so you can see what the bottle/label looks like.
http://www.lavieilleprune.com/...
Top row, group of three bottles, right hand bottle with the red wax cap.

And tell me what you think.
Thinking

Northampton, UK

#2269 Feb 13, 2014
I love walnuts. Walnut honey is lovely.

Someone in my wife's family makes prune brandy. Too sweet for my tastes, but very good. Her uncle down in Portugal makes eau de vie, and that nearly finished my best friend off. He tried walking onto a balcony that wasn't there.

I don't drink brandy at home, but after a really good restaurant meal in France I would certainly indulge.
ChristineM wrote:
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It’s nice, I went on a tour around the factory a few years ago, the smell of the angels share is real heaven
Next time you are over in France see if you can get some Louis Roque La Vieille Noix (Walnut Liqueur)
It’s difficult to find so here’s a link to the distillery so you can see what the bottle/label looks like.
http://www.lavieilleprune.com/...
Top row, group of three bottles, right hand bottle with the red wax cap.
And tell me what you think.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#2270 Feb 13, 2014
Thinking wrote:
I love walnuts. Walnut honey is lovely.
Someone in my wife's family makes prune brandy. Too sweet for my tastes, but very good. Her uncle down in Portugal makes eau de vie, and that nearly finished my best friend off. He tried walking onto a balcony that wasn't there.
I don't drink brandy at home, but after a really good restaurant meal in France I would certainly indulge.
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I always bring back a couple of kilos of fresh vacuum packed shelled walnuts, my place is in the Perogord Black, the capitol of walnuts (and truffles) so the markets are full of walnut products.

Last winter break I finished them off with a coffee roulade with a crushed walnut in cream filling, drizzled with La Vieille Noix before sealing with chocolate from Bernard Decaix. Never mind duck confit or goose gizzards, to me that was the complete taste of the Dordogne

It was a restaurant that I first tried a Vieille Noix, I think it’s local to the Dordogne, you may be lucky though.

And Eau de vie – I don’t drink a lot but the local bistro hands it out for free when the owner is a bit far gone (usually all the time), a couple of years a go he tempted me with a couple of glasses. Once as a teenager I got drunk on poteen, every time I drank water for three days after I was falling over blind drunk and had a hangover that a nuke wouldn’t cure. Although I didn’t get drunk on the eau de vie those two glasses had a similar after effect so never again. Paul has been lead home blind drunk and stiff as a plank after sampling a local farmers homebrew, propped up to lean on the doorbell while the equally drunken farmer and bistro owner staggered off laughing while holding each other up.

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#2271 Feb 15, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Yes I can make such a comparison because we are all human beings. If you cannot agree with yet accept what has become the norm in your country then the problem is partially yours so don’t go whinging about it, you are always free to go somewhere more to your liking. Oh wait a moment, I’m not sure if this is correct, are you free to move to another Muslim country or are man made laws restricting you? You know I am completely free to move where I want and I too am bound by the man made laws of the country I live.
It seems like you forgot what we were discussing or just lost the track of our discussion, I certainly don't like how things are going in our Muslim countries but that's not the point, the point is that you cannot make a comparison between how things are going in here and how things are going in your neck of the wood, you certainly can but it would be invalid in our discussion since we are discussing how Sharia law can really improve people's lives and provide serious solutions to the modern world problems.
ChristineM wrote:
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Yes and you of course would really love it if those sharia laws were “IMPOSED” on the rest of the world. Honey imposed government under your terms is not democracy but dictatorship
Are you saying that sharia law is not man made? Note man made laws are made by man and you (believe it or not) are a man not an incubi of a bronze age myth and dark age ignorance who were incidentally man made concepts.
yes of course I would love to apply sharia laws and by the time we end our discussion you'll probably love to more than I do, Sharia laws are not man made laws they come from the creator of the universe; that will be proven too, it took me so long because you and "thinking" keep confusing me and everybody else by irrelevant questions and comparisons not to mention that you want a detailed answer for every misconception you find on the internet, so basically I am doing my homework , yours and "thinking's".
ChristineM wrote:
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I have told you before, you don’t like it then move to a democratic country and stop whinging about what the adherence to out dated Muslim traditions have handed you. Your government and others are trying to move into the modern global village while retaining as much as possible of tradition. It is a very delicate balancing act that boils down to how much change will people of any one country accept while trying to align itself with the rest of the world. You either join in are go under, it seems that we now know that you would prefer the dark age isolationism than the modern world. You are of course welcome to this but don’t be surprised when other people want something different to your narrow minded ideas.
You still don't get it , I have a very big problem with terms like Freedom, socialism and capitalism.

-I know it seems weird that I don't like the term "freedom" , I don't have a problem with the actual meaning of freedom, my problem is with the way its implemented in societies, for instance you consider ABORTION as freedom of one's body while I consider it as a murder, since the fetus has the right to live, and I think we can both agree that One person's freedom ends where another person's freedom begins, So in other words I don't have a problem with freedom as long as there are clear limitations for the benefit of the whole society.

Extreme capitalism will fail just like extreme socialism did, extreme socialism tried to make all people equal which will never work, and extreme capitalism made a huge gap between people and that made the majority of people as slaves to a very few people, I believe that all people should be partners in some resources of the country like Water, oil and pastures,1400 years ago Islam gave us an economical system that stands somewhere between Capitalism and socialism.

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#2272 Feb 15, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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I can and do go off UN statistics, whether you like it or not, you country is a UN member state, just because you want to live in isolation is your problem, get over it. It seems that you choose to ignore poverty, well done, so much of your cold personality is coming out in this post. If you don’t like the way the discussion is discrediting your statements then tough, you can’t just say it has nothing to do with the discussion because it was you who introduced voting and education and both have considerable weight on the economic system of any country.
as I told you before you can absolutely get statistics as much as you can, but it would be irrelevant since we were discussing Islamic issues and you keep bringing examples of countries which are nearly applying 1% of Islam or even less.

I certainly Don't ignore poverty, its exactly the opposite because I think poverty gave birth to many of the problems we are dealing with today.

I am afraid not a single word you said actually discredited any statement I made, you actually are going in a classical circular discussion, its like I say the world is facing problems because we are not applying Sharia laws, you come back and say Jordan have this or that and when I tell you why exactly such problems are occurring you say by a way or another you should do exactly like we did , and again when we show you where your country went wrong you again go back and show us where we went wrong, you are definitely dragging me to a classical circular discussion.

you also jumped to a conclusion that Islam don't give people the right of voting and/or education, Just because as always you depend on recent days Islamic countries and of course you didn't take in consideration that non of these countries are actually applying Islamic teachings in any field.
ChristineM wrote:
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As I already said, you are man, you want to live in your version of heaven with 72 god made plastic virgins then you know the answer. Just don’t expect any sympathy from me.
Is that your way to ask me if women get to have sex in heaven ??
if that was your point I can tell you that the Quran clearly state that Women get in heaven whatever they desire, and if you were just trying to make fun of me then you I dont have anything to say other than the weaker the argument the bigger the insult!

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#2273 Feb 15, 2014
Mahmood wrote:
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Don't ask me, ask them. Just because a hadith is embarrassing does not mean it is true. Hadith collectors were gathering information going back 250 years after it was allegedly said and done - how can you trust this haphazard corpus of literature? There is no way of determining how much information found in a hadiths true or false - period.
Ask me something about my father and I can write a book. I can probably write a page on my grandfather & maybe a paragraph on his father. Anything before that, I blank out.
brother Mahmoud, I am sorry I didn't make myself clear , Sometimes I assume others can read between the lines of my post, that is my fault not yours.

I don't know if you read the bible or not, I did read the four versions of Bible John, Luke ,Mathew and mark.

its really easy to notice how the story of Jesus Evolved through time until we finally got to the point where all Christians consider Jesus to be God and/or the son of god, the whole concept of trinity evolved slowly through time, they turned Jesus from a messenger and a man into a god whether intentionally or not that is not our issue for now, they also transformed the whole concept of Bible into the Resurrection of Jesus after death since his death on the cross is now considered to be the essence of Christianity, you may ask how did they do it ??

and I think that the answer is very simple; by adding and/or changing little details or in other words the writers of the four versions of The Bible made their writings depending on their own point of view of Jesus and wanted him to look better every time and even were influenced by the timing these versions were written, Paul for instance wrote his version of the bible in a time when people believed that god can live in other creatures, you also can easily notice the differences between the 4 versions of Bible.

you may say that has nothing to do with our discussion about the authenticity of Hadiths and Sunnah, but I think this has everything to do with the authenticity and the healthy process Hadiths compiling went through for multiple reasons such as:

- the history proves that Hadith scientists were never influenced by the time they were living in, a very good example is Aisha's hadith about getting married at the age of 9, such an action may appear wrong in most of people's eyes in the 21 century and probably since the 16th or 17th century, but the Hadith remained there as authentic, thus there is no evolving in the story and that proves that the science of Hadith don't take in consideration people desires to change some facts.

- we may find a lot of Hadiths which try to make Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) way better in some people's eyes Just like any of the numerous Hadiths which were found to be Weak or fabricated, Remember how Jesus was evolved through time from a man into a son of god.

- All the authentic hadiths don't contradict with Quran and in fact complete Quran, because Quran in many cases cannot be interpreted accurately without Hadiths and Sunnah of Prophet Mohammed.

so what you may consider as fabricated Just because you don't like what such hadiths state, I consider as a very important sign that the religion of Islam is the only true authentic religion we have today, we both can agree that Hadiths didn't evolve through time in anyway, no Hadith scientists can depend on his own feelings nor can be influenced by the surroundings.

So we can say nothing but early scholars and Hadith scientists managed to create a tough system that guarantees to preserve Hadiths, not to mention that Allah promised to preserve Al Thekr, which refers according to many scholars to both Quran and Sunnah not only Quran.

we also have to bear in mind that Hadiths are still opened for categorization, you can easily study narrators and if you proved that any of the narrators of any hadith isn't trustworthy you may be able to take down a hadith into a different grade.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#2274 Feb 18, 2014
Food pr0n![sic]

Your poteen story reminds me of the girls at my school necking Pernod. I think it sticks to your stomach lining if you're dehydrated ready to be unleashed the next time they had something as innocuous a cup of tea. It was always just a two hit story though, that poteen sounds like something Iran would love to get its hands on.
ChristineM wrote:
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I always bring back a couple of kilos of fresh vacuum packed shelled walnuts, my place is in the Perogord Black, the capitol of walnuts (and truffles) so the markets are full of walnut products.
Last winter break I finished them off with a coffee roulade with a crushed walnut in cream filling, drizzled with La Vieille Noix before sealing with chocolate from Bernard Decaix. Never mind duck confit or goose gizzards, to me that was the complete taste of the Dordogne
It was a restaurant that I first tried a Vieille Noix, I think it’s local to the Dordogne, you may be lucky though.
And Eau de vie – I don’t drink a lot but the local bistro hands it out for free when the owner is a bit far gone (usually all the time), a couple of years a go he tempted me with a couple of glasses. Once as a teenager I got drunk on poteen, every time I drank water for three days after I was falling over blind drunk and had a hangover that a nuke wouldn’t cure. Although I didn’t get drunk on the eau de vie those two glasses had a similar after effect so never again. Paul has been lead home blind drunk and stiff as a plank after sampling a local farmers homebrew, propped up to lean on the doorbell while the equally drunken farmer and bistro owner staggered off laughing while holding each other up.

“When you treat people as they ”

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treat you they get offended.

#2275 Feb 18, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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It seems like you forgot what we were discussing or just lost the track of our discussion, I certainly don't like how things are going in our Muslim countries but that's not the point, the point is that you cannot make a comparison between how things are going in here and how things are going in your neck of the wood, you certainly can but it would be invalid in our discussion since we are discussing how Sharia law can really improve people's lives and provide serious solutions to the modern world problems.
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yes of course I would love to apply sharia laws and by the time we end our discussion you'll probably love to more than I do, Sharia laws are not man made laws they come from the creator of the universe; that will be proven too, it took me so long because you and "thinking" keep confusing me and everybody else by irrelevant questions and comparisons not to mention that you want a detailed answer for every misconception you find on the internet, so basically I am doing my homework , yours and "thinking's".
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You still don't get it , I have a very big problem with terms like Freedom, socialism and capitalism.
-I know it seems weird that I don't like the term "freedom" , I don't have a problem with the actual meaning of freedom, my problem is with the way its implemented in societies, for instance you consider ABORTION as freedom of one's body while I consider it as a murder, since the fetus has the right to live, and I think we can both agree that One person's freedom ends where another person's freedom begins, So in other words I don't have a problem with freedom as long as there are clear limitations for the benefit of the whole society.
Extreme capitalism will fail just like extreme socialism did, extreme socialism tried to make all people equal which will never work, and extreme capitalism made a huge gap between people and that made the majority of people as slaves to a very few people, I believe that all people should be partners in some resources of the country like Water, oil and pastures,1400 years ago Islam gave us an economical system that stands somewhere between Capitalism and socialism.
You are doing it again. You are making false accusations just because you don’t like the response. What gave you the impression that I had lost the thread of the conversation, Just because you don’t want to consider my response is not that I have lost the thread but that you don’t want to consider my response

Oh it is so easy to make comparisons and the reason you don’t want comparisons is because you don’t fare too well. You cannot provide solutions to modern day problems with 1400 year old ideas.

Sorry buddy, not going to happen, I was born free and I intend staying free. You try imposing sharia law on me and you end up with a mindless robot. Yes sharia law is man made, there is no creator, no such thing, there is no evidence of any sort, a creator is a figment of your imagination and nothing more.

You are welcome to consider abortion whatever you want, doctors think otherwise and until you gain a PhD in medicine and have spent several years specialising then your opinion is exactly that, opinion. What you are saying is you don’t have a problem with freedom just so long as they abide by your rules. That my dear is not freedom, that is dictatorship.

Capitalism may well fail in the same way extreme socialism has to some degree failed although there is a fair amount of socialist policy tempering capitalism. Judging by the state of Muslim countries then the Islamic model is not working either. Each was/is a utopia for different societies the problem with such utopias is that not all people are the same.

The human race is not a one size fits all garment and when Islam realises this then you may be on to something interesting, until then what you have is a faith that requires dictatorship to function

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Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#2276 Feb 18, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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as I told you before you can absolutely get statistics as much as you can, but it would be irrelevant since we were discussing Islamic issues and you keep bringing examples of countries which are nearly applying 1% of Islam or even less.
I certainly Don't ignore poverty, its exactly the opposite because I think poverty gave birth to many of the problems we are dealing with today.
I am afraid not a single word you said actually discredited any statement I made, you actually are going in a classical circular discussion, its like I say the world is facing problems because we are not applying Sharia laws, you come back and say Jordan have this or that and when I tell you why exactly such problems are occurring you say by a way or another you should do exactly like we did , and again when we show you where your country went wrong you again go back and show us where we went wrong, you are definitely dragging me to a classical circular discussion.
you also jumped to a conclusion that Islam don't give people the right of voting and/or education, Just because as always you depend on recent days Islamic countries and of course you didn't take in consideration that non of these countries are actually applying Islamic teachings in any field.
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Is that your way to ask me if women get to have sex in heaven ??
if that was your point I can tell you that the Quran clearly state that Women get in heaven whatever they desire, and if you were just trying to make fun of me then you I dont have anything to say other than the weaker the argument the bigger the insult!
Considering the statistics were about Islamic issues then my case is closed. You want to ignore the statistics then that’s you own ignorance. As to whether it discredits any statement you made, who cares?

And it seems to be you who is goi8nf round in circles, 1400 years old circles of irrelevance.

I never say you should do exactly like we did, you lie. You are making sh|t up to cover your own inadequacy. I also never said my country was perfect, a long way from it in my view. That of course does not makes any difference to you country or the solutions to either set of problems. My main concern with you and your faith is you inhumanity to humanity, disregard of human rights and your ignorance concerning your misogyny. You may of course try moving goalposts as much as you want but it will make no difference to my views.

I have already proven and you have already confirmed the poor voting record in Islamic countries. As to whether you god book allows such makes no difference to the fact that it happens in the name of your god book.

Nope it is my way of saying exactly what I said, do not be so ignorant as top try putting your words in my mouth

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#2277 Feb 18, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Food pr0n![sic]
Your poteen story reminds me of the girls at my school necking Pernod. I think it sticks to your stomach lining if you're dehydrated ready to be unleashed the next time they had something as innocuous a cup of tea. It was always just a two hit story though, that poteen sounds like something Iran would love to get its hands on.
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Oh I doubt Iranians could handle poteen. They tend to get a bit silly over a glass of unfermented pomegranate juice or an over ripe fig

Yes I have heard Pernod can have a similar effect. I am reliably informed that it’s far milder, not something I would like to try out though.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#2278 Feb 18, 2014
They think cocktail shakers are centrifuges.
ChristineM wrote:
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Oh I doubt Iranians could handle poteen. They tend to get a bit silly over a glass of unfermented pomegranate juice or an over ripe fig
Yes I have heard Pernod can have a similar effect. I am reliably informed that it’s far milder, not something I would like to try out though.

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treat you they get offended.

#2279 Feb 18, 2014
Thinking wrote:
They think cocktail shakers are centrifuges.
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So that's where they went wrong?
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#2280 Feb 18, 2014
Yes, their uranium processing failures were nothing to do with the Stuxnet virus.
ChristineM wrote:
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So that's where they went wrong?

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#2281 Feb 18, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Yes, their uranium processing failures were nothing to do with the Stuxnet virus.
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Lol
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#2282 Feb 18, 2014
There were left with egg nog on their faces.
ChristineM wrote:
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Lol

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#2283 Feb 18, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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You are doing it again. You are making false accusations just because you don’t like the response. What gave you the impression that I had lost the thread of the conversation, Just because you don’t want to consider my response is not that I have lost the thread but that you don’t want to consider my response
I think you gave me that impression because of your Irrelevant response, what you said was right and I do agree with some of what you said , but it doesn't matter if I liked it or not , it would still be irrelevant.
ChristineM wrote:
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Oh it is so easy to make comparisons and the reason you don’t want comparisons is because you don’t fare too well. You cannot provide solutions to modern day problems with 1400 year old ideas.
there are solutions but at first you gotta have a problem and if you want to know if you have a problem, you should admit that you have one , since problem recognition is the first step to solve it, and according to you; there isn't any problem, for instance you don't consider alcohol, adultery, gambling or abortion as problems.

It’s funny how most of the problems on society depend on the above four problems for instance Alcohol may lead to car accidents and car accidents may lead to killing innocents, sometimes Alcohol lead to direct murdering, raping, child molesting and adultery.

Adultery may lead to other serious problems like ruining family relations, depression, destroy self esteem , STDS and a possibility of unwanted pregnancies, thus what you call making love may actually lead to corruption and desolation to the whole community because once the family is gone you can just watch the community falling apart, STDS means dying horribly, unwanted pregnancies will lead to either killing a soul which has the right to live or throwing a child in an orphanage.

If you looked at it from another angle, you’ll realize that satisfying lusts and desires the wrong way cannot come from anyone except from the devil himself.
ChristineM wrote:
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Sorry buddy, not going to happen, I was born free and I intend staying free. You try imposing sharia law on me and you end up with a mindless robot. Yes sharia law is man made, there is no creator, no such thing, there is no evidence of any sort, a creator is a figment of your imagination and nothing more.
I am not trying to impose anything, just consider what we do here as a brainstorming session or exchanging thoughts or whatever , and there is an evidence for the creator; we'll get to that later.
ChristineM wrote:
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You are welcome to consider abortion whatever you want, doctors think otherwise and until you gain a PhD in medicine and have spent several years specialising then your opinion is exactly that, opinion. What you are saying is you don’t have a problem with freedom just so long as they abide by your rules. That my dear is not freedom, that is dictatorship.
Forget about the doctors and tell me what do you think of abortion ??
I am not talking about the odd cases when there is a potential danger to the mother and/or the child.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#2284 Feb 19, 2014
There's a big problem with your allegation: facts.

The UK is regualrly the safest place to drive the car.
Occasionally, Sweden or The Netherlands have beaten us with even lower casualties, but it's usually the UK.

Alcohol is easy to obtain in all three countries.

Women have less serious accidents than men. A pig ignorant violent misogynist (example: an islamist) is far more likely to be the cause of a car accident than someone that knows how to use alcohol responsibly. Maybe this is why Jordan has eight times the traffic fatalities of the UK (per capita).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...
hazem selawi wrote:
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Alcohol may lead to car accidents...

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#2285 Feb 19, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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I think you gave me …
What irrelevant response? If you don’t like your regime being compared to other regimes is no ones fault but your own. This is one of the drawbacks of Islam, it does not allow comparison because it is frightened of the conclusions.

I know we have several problems and I freely admit it but it seems you are proclaiming a major cause of your problems as your solution. You must realise that your governments are built and operate on Muslim principals and yet you claim you don’t like them! I realise that the cause of our problems will not cure those problems no matter how hard I dream. However you are welcome you live in your dream world, just don’t try forcing it on me.

You see everything as black and white like a good little godbot blinded by your faith, but as I have been trying to make you realise from day one, not many people are black or white. As I have said before, of course I see alcohol as a problem, I have seen the results of people who abuse it, I have watched love ones and friends die of liver disease. However there is such as thing as responsible alcohol consumption and of course, in small quantities it is proven to be beneficial for health. I also see irresponsible gambling as a problem, it can ruin families and friendships, like alcohol it can destroy lives and just like alcohol there is such a thing as moderation and self-control. I also see adultery can be the source of problems among the jealous and immature, it can on the other hand be hugely beneficial to certain people, once again responsibility is the key. As for abortion, I do not agree with abortion but I would never EVER consider dictating what qualified doctors and the people effected should and should not do.

Most problems in society are born of immaturity, aggression, racism, sexism, finance, the environment, obesity, starvation and terrorism. The potential problems you list fall into just 2 (perhaps 3) of those categories.

What I call making love is with full agreement of those involved and has fook all to do with you or your god book, why do you have such a problem with personal liberty? If you cannot understand that human emotions and responsibilities are far wider fields than petty childhood jealousies then that is your problem.

Tell me do you satisfy your lust by masturbating? Honey, I look at it from the angle of my life, not yours, you don’t like the way I live that is not my problem but yours, grow up and accept that people are not all cast on the same production line.

In my view anyone who involves the iron age ravings of the reject spawn of a bronze age myth has real personality problems. No, god, no El, No Allah therefore no devil.

Yes you are you are threatening me with your faith, you want to impose your will onto my life, as I have said before, it is not going to happen, I really would rather kill myself that be chained to you rules.

Did you use the wrong word? I believe your should have used the word “brainwashing”.

I will repeat, No, god, no El, No Allah. There is no evidence to stand up to any scrutiny and therefore it is not evidence but supposition. Look at it this way, in more than 10,000 years of the invention of gods no one has been able to provide any evidence. If you can, as you claim, provide such evidence then you would be unique and famous beyond avarice, the population of the whole world would treat you as a messiah. Waiting…

Why impose restrictions? Doctors are in integral part of abortion. If they are not then you are in some back street clinic somewhere with and unqualified butcher. As I said earlier, I do not agree with abortion but I would never consider dictating what qualified doctors and the people effected should and should not do. It is not your body and you are not qualified therefore you have no right to stick your “opinion” where it is not needed.

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