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Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad

There are 3147 comments on the Examiner.com story from Sep 14, 2013, titled Richard Dawkins - God is evil, pedophilesa not so bad. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

"The God of the Qur'an is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

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Atheist Silurist

Motherwell, UK

#2071 Jan 22, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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I am not convinced that you are not a child abuser, and for female circumcision you can check this Fatwa on Islamweb
http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php...
Whatever crosses your mind you'll find a decent answer on Islamweb.net , its organized and tells you everything with proofs and the opinions of scholars.
Typical, You'll link to some bullshit islamic text rather than try to justify the unjustifiable.

Let's see it for what it is. Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) Is a disgusting torturous act inflicted on female children. An act of barbarity that could only exist in the modern age because of its perpetuation by islam. If islam ceased to exist FGM would be considered a crime against humanity,and so it should for any person with even a tiny sense of empathy,morals or ethics.
Mahmood

Keswick, Canada

#2072 Jan 22, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
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then your whole discussion from the very first beginning fails, because you always say how can we be sure that the original Quran was transferred correctly to us, it turned out that you dont believe in Quran, How the hell can I convince you that some Hadiths remained Authentic and was narrated exactly as Mohammed said it ...!!
What I am asking for is evidence. You guys make plenty of claims without backing them up with proof. If you dont have the orignal manuscripts of the Koran, then how can you be sure that the Koran we have is the same Koran dictated by Mohammad? Okay, maybe the orignal transcripts got lost, and if that is the case, then tell me, where can I find a copy of the Koran that dates back to 632 AD? I cannot simply accept the notion that the Koran we have today is verbatim the same Koran dictated by Mohammad because we dont know that.

You cannot convince me that certain hadiths are authentic because you yourself do know if they are for real. You have been told that they are authentic and you'v accepted it without question. You know back in 9th century there was an enlightened Muslim poet named Abu Nuwas who challenged the theologians on the idea of hell. His argument was that no one visited hell and returned to tell about it so there could be no hell. Evidence is the name of the game my friend and you have none.
Thinking

Blaenau-ffestiniog, UK

#2073 Jan 23, 2014
I would never abuse a child but I don't know how to prove you wouldn't.

I don't care what apologist crap you spam, there is no excuse for sunni Female Genital Mutilation.

You lot of child cutting wankers should be ashamed and shunned.
Your imams could tell your sheep to stop it immediately.
Now that would be a good use of Friday prayers. For once, a muslim could bring good not bad news.
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not convinced that you are not a child abuser, and for female circumcision you can check this Fatwa on Islamweb
http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php...
Whatever crosses your mind you'll find a decent answer on Islamweb.net , its organized and tells you everything with proofs and the opinions of scholars.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#2074 Jan 23, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
you Shouldn't give false information on a public thread,
you claimed that these Hadiths show how Islam mistreat women.
"Bukhari (72:715)
Muslim (4:2127)-- BTW I can advise that a woman being struck in the chest is probably on a par with you being struck in the balls but the pain lasts MUCH longer.
Muslim (9:3506)
Abu Dawud (2126)
Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 969
In Kash-shaf (the revealer) of al-Zamkhshari (Vol. 1, p. 525)-[Muhammad said] "Hang up your scourge where your wife can see"
and at the same time you don't want me to explain any of them, not to mention that some of the above Hadiths are considered to be weak.
you are not giving me the chance to move on for proving the existence of God by proving that the Quran cannot be a word of a man , you've been jumping from a subject to another.
besides we are only exchanging some thoughts and beliefs; you are taking it too seriously.
Are you saying your god books contains false information? That was very brave of you for admitting it. I really am surprised at the change in your attitude.

There is no need to explain what is plainly written, even if one or two are considered weak, when taken all together they give a pretty damning and powerful statement, this is, after all, exactly what you attempt to do.

Your explanations with the use of time machines are nothing but apologetics. I am not interested in your excuses, or you interpretation, only in facts.

Tell me what is to explain about a man deliberately hitting his wife in the chest to knowingly and deliberately cause suffering and pain? What is to explain about deliberately hanging a scourge where it plainly threatens? People like Mohammed and you have a lot to learn about women and about relationships.

What makes you think you can prove the existence of god?. No one has been able to prove the existence of any of over 3700 different god in all the history of belief in gods and you are not likely to be any different than the billions of devout funnymentalists of all religions that have gone before you. It is plain that you “believe” in the existence of your version of god but personal belief is NOT proof and dark age/iron age/bronze age books with no province and of proven susceptibility to fact are not proof. If there was proof do you really think that there would be such opposition, so many different religions? Do you really think that scientific evidence would not be discarded in favour of your godddidt by magic? You should never LIE by claiming that your belief is proof, I know you god book gives you permission to lie to big up your lies but that only means you are lying. This is the whole problem with religion, they treat belief as evidence and expect everyone else to believe the same thing. In the case of christianity they have even gone to the extent of hijacking words and bastardising them to discount anyone else with a differen opinion. Words like “morality” and “Truth”(note the capital T to differentiate it from real truth), hell they have even gone to the extent of inventing words like “truthiness” which means “it sounds like Truth so it must be true”

So it is true that I am not giving to chance to pinch your sales technique because I have heard it all before, repeatedly and often and there is always precisely nothing new.

I have been citing the quran and its buddy books as directly related to your posts but you can make up whatever excuses about the lowly female mind that makes you feel better.

Oh honey, of course I take the mistreatment of women seriously even if you don’t. Perhaps you should join your buddy Mohammed and laugh at it. Tell me, if or when you marry will you hang a scourge where you wife can be well and truly threatened?

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#2075 Jan 23, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not convinced that you are not a child abuser, and for female circumcision you can check this Fatwa on Islamweb
http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php...
Whatever crosses your mind you'll find a decent answer on Islamweb.net , its organized and tells you everything with proofs and the opinions of scholars.
FGM is a cultural thing, the Islamic community cannot shoulder the bulk of the responsibility for such barbaric abuse but it is certainly practised in several Muslim countries

UNFPA, United Nations Population Fund) fact sheet

http://www.unfpa.org/gender/practices2.htm#12

http://www.unfpa.org/gender/practices2.htm#18

http://www.unfpa.org/gender/practices2.htm#21

Note the site you linked to which begins it’s answering spiel with “All perfect praise be to Allaah,” cannot really be considered a truly unbiased source of a “decent answer”.

I note that the page you linked to stated –“The scholars, then, have different opinions on this matter because there is no explicit sound text (Quran or Hadeeth) upon which the rule could be based”

So it seems there is nothing in the god book so they interpret this as a yes (either obligatory or likeable) for FGM when there is copious modern medical and scientific (and personal accounts) to show that it is an abhorrent and dangerous practice

http://www.unfpa.org/gender/practices2.htm#15
http://www.unfpa.org/gender/practices2.htm#16
http://www.unfpa.org/gender/practices2.htm#17
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs2...
http://www.endfgm.eu/en/female-genital-mutila...
http://www.path.org/files/FGM-The-Facts.htm
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/female-genital-m...
http://www.african-women.org/FGM/consequences...
http://www.womenshealth.gov/publications/our-...

You are slowly revealing ever more of the barbarism you chose to consider your faith.
Thinking

Aberdeen, UK

#2076 Jan 23, 2014
islam is not making FGM go away. Therefore islam is bollocks.
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
FGM is a cultural thing, the Islamic community cannot shoulder the bulk of the responsibility for such barbaric abuse but it is certainly practised in several Muslim countries
UNFPA, United Nations Population Fund) fact sheet
http://www.unfpa.org/gender/practices2.htm#12
http://www.unfpa.org/gender/practices2.htm#18
http://www.unfpa.org/gender/practices2.htm#21
Note the site you linked to which begins it’s answering spiel with “All perfect praise be to Allaah,” cannot really be considered a truly unbiased source of a “decent answer”.
I note that the page you linked to stated –“The scholars, then, have different opinions on this matter because there is no explicit sound text (Quran or Hadeeth) upon which the rule could be based”
So it seems there is nothing in the god book so they interpret this as a yes (either obligatory or likeable) for FGM when there is copious modern medical and scientific (and personal accounts) to show that it is an abhorrent and dangerous practice
http://www.unfpa.org/gender/practices2.htm#15
http://www.unfpa.org/gender/practices2.htm#16
http://www.unfpa.org/gender/practices2.htm#17
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs2...
http://www.endfgm.eu/en/female-genital-mutila...
http://www.path.org/files/FGM-The-Facts.htm
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/female-genital-m...
http://www.african-women.org/FGM/consequences...
http://www.womenshealth.gov/publications/our-...
You are slowly revealing ever more of the barbarism you chose to consider your faith.

Since: Oct 13

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#2077 Jan 23, 2014
Atheist Silurist wrote:
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Typical, You'll link to some bullshit islamic text rather than try to justify the unjustifiable.
Let's see it for what it is. Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) Is a disgusting torturous act inflicted on female children. An act of barbarity that could only exist in the modern age because of its perpetuation by islam. If islam ceased to exist FGM would be considered a crime against humanity,and so it should for any person with even a tiny sense of empathy,morals or ethics.
if you are the one who asked me it would be a different case, But "thinking" needs a specialized team to answer his endless questions.

there is no text in Hadith or Quran state that females should be Circumcised, while its obligatory for men, Some scholars say its likable for women.

Since: Oct 13

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#2078 Jan 23, 2014
Mahmood wrote:
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What I am asking for is evidence. You guys make plenty of claims without backing them up with proof. If you dont have the orignal manuscripts of the Koran, then how can you be sure that the Koran we have is the same Koran dictated by Mohammad? Okay, maybe the orignal transcripts got lost, and if that is the case, then tell me, where can I find a copy of the Koran that dates back to 632 AD? I cannot simply accept the notion that the Koran we have today is verbatim the same Koran dictated by Mohammad because we dont know that.
You cannot convince me that certain hadiths are authentic because you yourself do know if they are for real. You have been told that they are authentic and you'v accepted it without question. You know back in 9th century there was an enlightened Muslim poet named Abu Nuwas who challenged the theologians on the idea of hell. His argument was that no one visited hell and returned to tell about it so there could be no hell. Evidence is the name of the game my friend and you have none.
Actually I don't have any trust issues, I trust Mohammed's companions and I am sure they recorded the Same Quran, those men protected Islam by their souls.
Uthman (RDT) was a very rich man and he gave away most of his fortune to protect Muslims and to prepare the Islamic army.

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#2079 Jan 23, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you saying your god books contains false information? That was very brave of you for admitting it. I really am surprised at the change in your attitude.
no I said you brought false information on a public thread and you don't want me to Show you which one is weak and which is authentic, and if I did you think I am trying to give excuses.
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no need to explain what is plainly written, even if one or two are considered weak, when taken all together they give a pretty damning and powerful statement, this is, after all, exactly what you attempt to do.
As you like, do whatever suits you.
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Your explanations with the use of time machines are nothing but apologetics. I am not interested in your excuses, or you interpretation, only in facts.
Tell me what is to explain about a man deliberately hitting his wife in the chest to knowingly and deliberately cause suffering and pain? What is to explain about deliberately hanging a scourge where it plainly threatens? People like Mohammed and you have a lot to learn about women and about relationships.
if you read the entire hadith you'll realize that Mohammed and Aisha continued their conversation and the answer is right there.

Hang up your scourge is a weak Hadith, which means never happened or told by Mohammed.
there is another narration of this hadith which is "hang up your scourge where your household can see it " and this one also is considered to be weak.
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
What makes you think you can prove the existence of god?. No one has been able to prove the existence of any of over 3700 different god in all the history of belief in gods and you are not likely to be any different than the billions of devout funnymentalists of all religions that have gone before you. It is plain that you “believe” in the existence of your version of god but personal belief is NOT proof and dark age/iron age/bronze age books with no province and of proven susceptibility to fact are not proof. If there was proof do you really think that there would be such opposition, so many different religions? Do you really think that scientific evidence would not be discarded in favour of your godddidt by magic? You should never LIE by claiming that your belief is proof, I know you god book gives you permission to lie to big up your lies but that only means you are lying. This is the whole problem with religion, they treat belief as evidence and expect everyone else to believe the same thing. In the case of christianity they have even gone to the extent of hijacking words and bastardising them to discount anyone else with a differen opinion. Words like “morality” and “Truth”(note the capital T to differentiate it from real truth), hell they have even gone to the extent of inventing words like “truthiness” which means “it sounds like Truth so it must be true”
So it is true that I am not giving to chance to pinch your sales technique because I have heard it all before, repeatedly and often and there is always precisely nothing new.
I have been citing the quran and its buddy books as directly related to your posts but you can make up whatever excuses about the lowly female mind that makes you feel better.
Oh honey, of course I take the mistreatment of women seriously even if you don’t. Perhaps you should join your buddy Mohammed and laugh at it. Tell me, if or when you marry will you hang a scourge where you wife can be well and truly threatened?
that is whats remarkable about Islam; it provides proof and faith.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#2080 Jan 23, 2014
Thinking wrote:
islam is not making FGM go away. Therefore islam is bollocks.
<quoted text>
Islam condones FGM as shown by the page link Hazmat provided, It stinks for sure but Islam is not the only culture guilty.

There are some Islamic country that have legally banned the abuse and there are christian cultures who practice it therefore christianity is bollocks too - but hey we knew that already

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_fe...

You will notice that in Africa especially the particularly high rate of FGM amongst Catholic and Protestant groups, certainly considering

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#2081 Jan 23, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
no I said you brought false information on a public thread and you don't want me to Show you which one is weak and which is authentic, and if I did you think I am trying to give excuses.
<quoted text>
As you like, do whatever suits you.
<quoted text>
if you read the entire hadith you'll realize that Mohammed and Aisha continued their conversation and the answer is right there.
Hang up your scourge is a weak Hadith, which means never happened or told by Mohammed.
there is another narration of this hadith which is "hang up your scourge where your household can see it " and this one also is considered to be weak.
<quoted text>
that is whats remarkable about Islam; it provides proof and faith.
The verses I quoted came DIRECTLY from your god books. Therefore they are all AUTHENTIC to your god book. That fact that you believe them to be false is quite telling… Or are you telling me that the verses I quotes are not in your god books? If this is so than I will happily admit to them to be false but seeing as how I found them in your god books I can not see this happening. Certainly you have provided nothing other than incredulous exclamation to validate your claim.

Well you see, I am not Muslim so I am free to do whatever suites me at any time without the permission of a man. This seems to be a major stumbling bock to your view of the world.

The answer that Aisha was HIT in the chest by Mohammed, It really does not matter what was written afterwards, there can be no excuse for causing out of spite or temper pain to another human being. If you think there can be an excuse then I feel sorry for you.

And that’s your interpretation is it? Than why is it a hadith? And of course the other narration also threatens children and still it is a hadith. As I have said all along, interpretation.

Like all other religions it provides belief in the unprovable. It provides unfalsifiable rhetoric, it does not provide proof. Do you really not think that if there were ACTUAL proof that Islam provided proof of what it claims then it would not be the world’s major religion?

The claim of proof is a LIE.

P.S. Tell how you feel about say the wife being dominant over the husband and she beating him? Shock, horror or simple acceptance in the same way you accept the opposite?

Since: Oct 13

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#2082 Jan 23, 2014
Thinking wrote:
I would never abuse a child but I don't know how to prove you wouldn't.
I don't care what apologist crap you spam, there is no excuse for sunni Female Genital Mutilation.
You lot of child cutting wankers should be ashamed and shunned.
Your imams could tell your sheep to stop it immediately.
Now that would be a good use of Friday prayers. For once, a muslim could bring good not bad news.
<quoted text>
our Imams do guide people, and we always bring good news but in your part of the world you only get the bad news.
Mahmood

Peterborough, Canada

#2083 Jan 23, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually I don't have any trust issues, I trust Mohammed's companions and I am sure they recorded the Same Quran, those men protected Islam by their souls.
Uthman (RDT) was a very rich man and he gave away most of his fortune to protect Muslims and to prepare the Islamic army.
Uthman being rich & sincere has nothing to do with the authenticity of the Koran. If Islamic history is true, Uthman was the one who promoted nepotism which eventually led to his downfall. Where is the copy of the Koran written by Uthman?
Thinking

Aberdeen, UK

#2084 Jan 23, 2014
Yet your part of the world is in turmoil and my part of the world has the lowest crime figures since records began. Maybe you need to learn from our tolerance.
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
our Imams do guide people, and we always bring good news but in your part of the world you only get the bad news.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#2085 Jan 23, 2014
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
our Imams do guide people, and we always bring good news but in your part of the world you only get the bad news.
If your imans guide people using the sort BS you link to while defending FGM then you have real problems

We in the UK get good news quite often despite the horrendous weather and flooding (more to come this weekend I believe)

First there is Russell Howard's Good News – always welcome

How about a 10% decrease in crime?– good news today

The jobless total is down – good news yesterday

How about the new development in broadband – fasted ever passes initial test, very good news for some

I have just learned that my friend is pregnant after 5 years of trying. Not only and awesome result but the trying had it’s good points too

And I have just, not an hour ago received a quotation request for about one hundred thousand pounds worth of work from you neck of the woods. Excellent news for my company

All good news so it seems that once again you are caught out lying.

So lets look at some of the middle east good news eh?

AlJazeera seems to think that “Higher oil production in the US coupled with conservation could spell trouble for petrodollar-dependent countries.”

How about the abuses on both sides of the divide in Syria?

Great news eh???

OK, I know, I know extremely prejudiced but you did open your mouth and stick your foot in it with a statement that begged for you to be brought back down to size.
Thinking

Aberdeen, UK

#2086 Jan 23, 2014
Good news indeed. I was lucky enough to see Russell Howard before he started playing big venues. He was charming.

Frankie Boyle's very young daughter was asking him what a woman wearing a full burka was. He thought long and hard about how to explain a burka to a young child in a non offensive manner.

"It's a black person's ghost."
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
If your imans guide people using the sort BS you link to while defending FGM then you have real problems
We in the UK get good news quite often despite the horrendous weather and flooding (more to come this weekend I believe)
First there is Russell Howard's Good News – always welcome
How about a 10% decrease in crime?– good news today
The jobless total is down – good news yesterday
How about the new development in broadband – fasted ever passes initial test, very good news for some
I have just learned that my friend is pregnant after 5 years of trying. Not only and awesome result but the trying had it’s good points too
And I have just, not an hour ago received a quotation request for about one hundred thousand pounds worth of work from you neck of the woods. Excellent news for my company
All good news so it seems that once again you are caught out lying.
So lets look at some of the middle east good news eh?
AlJazeera seems to think that “Higher oil production in the US coupled with conservation could spell trouble for petrodollar-dependent countries.”
How about the abuses on both sides of the divide in Syria?
Great news eh???
OK, I know, I know extremely prejudiced but you did open your mouth and stick your foot in it with a statement that begged for you to be brought back down to size.

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#2087 Jan 23, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
If your imans guide people using the sort BS you link to while defending FGM then you have real problems
We in the UK get good news quite often despite the horrendous weather and flooding (more to come this weekend I believe)
First there is Russell Howard's Good News – always welcome
How about a 10% decrease in crime?– good news today
The jobless total is down – good news yesterday
How about the new development in broadband – fasted ever passes initial test, very good news for some
I have just learned that my friend is pregnant after 5 years of trying. Not only and awesome result but the trying had it’s good points too
And I have just, not an hour ago received a quotation request for about one hundred thousand pounds worth of work from you neck of the woods. Excellent news for my company
All good news so it seems that once again you are caught out lying.
So lets look at some of the middle east good news eh?
AlJazeera seems to think that “Higher oil production in the US coupled with conservation could spell trouble for petrodollar-dependent countries.”
How about the abuses on both sides of the divide in Syria?
Great news eh???
OK, I know, I know extremely prejudiced but you did open your mouth and stick your foot in it with a statement that begged for you to be brought back down to size.
is my English that bad ??!! you always miss my point
I meant that "thinking" gets only the bad news about us the muslims and the middle east while we have lots of good news.

anyways thank you for the good news from your part of the world.

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#2088 Jan 23, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Yet your part of the world is in turmoil and my part of the world has the lowest crime figures since records began. Maybe you need to learn from our tolerance.
<quoted text>
our part of the world is a mess, its way beyond turmoil.
but what can we do ??

Since: Oct 13

Location hidden

#2089 Jan 23, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
The verses I quoted came DIRECTLY from your god books. Therefore they are all AUTHENTIC to your god book. That fact that you believe them to be false is quite telling… Or are you telling me that the verses I quotes are not in your god books? If this is so than I will happily admit to them to be false but seeing as how I found them in your god books I can not see this happening. Certainly you have provided nothing other than incredulous exclamation to validate your claim.
I don't have a problem with verses you quoted from Quran, the problem is the way you interpret them, so the Quran tells Strike women, then we should know how did Mohammed applied that verse during his life, the only thing he did is that he struck Aisha on the chest which caused her some pain and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you? She said: Whatsoever the people conceal, Allah will know it. He said: Gabriel came to me when you saw me. He called me and he concealed it from you. I responded to his call, but I too concealed it from you (for he did not come to you), as you were not fully dressed. I thought that you had gone to sleep, and I did not like to awaken you, fearing that you may be frightened. He (Gabriel) said: Your Lord has commanded you to go to the inhabitants of Baqi'(to those lying in the graves) and beg pardon for them. I said: Messenger of Allah, how should I pray for them (How should I beg forgiveness for them)? He said: Say, Peace be upon the inhabitants of this city (graveyard) from among the Believers and the Muslims, and may Allah have mercy on those who have gone ahead of us, and those who come later on, and we shall, God willing, join you.(narrated by Aisha herself)
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Well you see, I am not Muslim so I am free to do whatever suites me at any time without the permission of a man. This seems to be a major stumbling bock to your view of the world.
The answer that Aisha was HIT in the chest by Mohammed, It really does not matter what was written afterwards, there can be no excuse for causing out of spite or temper pain to another human being. If you think there can be an excuse then I feel sorry for you.
And that’s your interpretation is it? Than why is it a hadith? And of course the other narration also threatens children and still it is a hadith. As I have said all along, interpretation.
Like all other religions it provides belief in the unprovable. It provides unfalsifiable rhetoric, it does not provide proof. Do you really not think that if there were ACTUAL proof that Islam provided proof of what it claims then it would not be the world’s major religion?
The claim of proof is a LIE.
the proofs are within the teachings themselves, Maybe this time you can Google proofs of Islam instead of reading nonsense fabricated articles on thereligionofpeace.com
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
P.S. Tell how you feel about say the wife being dominant over the husband and she beating him? Shock, horror or simple acceptance in the same way you accept the opposite?
Actually if I was a woman I would certainly choose a man who fears Allah the most, because if he fears Allah he'll dafinetly know that Allah is watching him all the time and knows that someday he'll be questioned for everything he did or going to do.
Thinking

Aberdeen, UK

#2090 Jan 23, 2014
Be nice to each other? Work collaboratively? Forget your differences? I'm sure this will all take time but I'm sure you can make it happen if you want it enough.
hazem selawi wrote:
<quoted text>
our part of the world is a mess, its way beyond turmoil.
but what can we do ??

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