Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

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Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking. Full Story

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#1817 Jan 4, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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What evidence do you have of when you were born?
Ooops, when, not where.
Anyway, I remember counting the years from 6 years old.
What is your point?

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1818 Jan 4, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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I can and have many times. At the risk of boring others ... just for you, one more time;
Let's start with the "Facts" your Bible (or Torah) Claims;
1. God is omnipotent
2. God is omniscient
3. God is omnipresent
4. God has a message for all people.
That's what your bible claims right?
OK, so why couldn't your God write down this message himself or otherwise leave a message where all can find it?
There are only a few possibilities to consider;
1. He didn't know how.=> He's not God.
2. He wasn't powerful enough.=> He's not God.
3. He did but someone hid it.=> God doesn't know where it is, could not have known it would be hidden => He's not God.
4. He did but someone destroyed it.=> God didn't know that would happen and could not prevent it => He's not God.
5. He did but man is too limited to understand the message => God didn't make his creatures so they would understand his message AND he didn't write his message so his creatures could understand it => He's not God.
6. God doesn't really have a message for all humans => The bible is completely wrong and does not describe God properly i.e. The God described in the bible does not exist.
There, ONCE AGAIN!! Solid Proof the God described in the Bible does not exist.
A copy of a previous body.

This was coveted a few pages ago and I proved this to be totally wrong. YHVH did write the Torah some with His own hand. Today it exists in almost every language that exists in billions of copies world wide.

Your little story has once again been proved wrong. If you think you can prove God does not exist you had better think again.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1819 Jan 4, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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My parents told me where I was born. My birth certificate says where I was born. I remember where I lived from a very early age. So, what is your point?
So all you have is a written document and verbal evidence from 2 witnesses. There is more evidence for the existence of YHVH the God of Israel and yet you claim I cannot know. Funny that.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#1820 Jan 4, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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about 4 degrees Kelvin on average. Good point.
Thanks. I just don't get why some people insist that the creation story in Genesis is accurate, when it's clearly absurd.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1821 Jan 4, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Thanks. I just don't get why some people insist that the creation story in Genesis is accurate, when it's clearly absurd.
The simple reason is because it is accurate 100% accurate everything, there is no other theory or conjecture that even comes close. Why don't you try to pose one for us?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#1822 Jan 4, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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So all you have is a written document and verbal evidence from 2 witnesses.
What else would I need?
Colin The Zionist wrote:
There is more evidence for the existence of YHVH the God of Israel and yet you claim I cannot know. Funny that.
What is that evidence!? I keep asking you, and you just say you "know".
Well, I don't just "know" I was born in here.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#1823 Jan 4, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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All of creation shouts with evidence of YHVH the God of Israel, you just choose to ignore the very obvious evidence that is so clear to so many.
You just keep saying this, but never tell us what that evidence is.
Colin The Zionist wrote:
As for the muslims I have already answered thus several times.
No, you have not.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#1824 Jan 4, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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The simple reason is because it is accurate 100% accurate everything, there is no other theory or conjecture that even comes close. Why don't you try to pose one for us?
Again, it's absurd. The story has plants growing before there is a sun. At that point, we can stop if we want to, knowing the story is a myth.
But let's keep going. Eve was made from Adam's rib. Eve would have had the same DNA Adam did. Eve would have been a man.
And Noah's Ark, a totally absurd story. 140,000 birds in a boat lined with tar for months. Have you cleaned up a bird cage with one bird in it after one day? And that's just the birds.

No need to pose another theory, I've shown the buy-bull isn't accurate.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1825 Jan 4, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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What else would I need?
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What is that evidence!? I keep asking you, and you just say you "know".
Well, I don't just "know" I was born in here.
How many times do I have to answer the same thing for you. Now read it this time, all of creation is evidence of YHVH the creator.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#1826 Jan 4, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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A copy of a previous body.
This was coveted a few pages ago and I proved this to be totally wrong. YHVH did write the Torah some with His own hand. Today it exists in almost every language that exists in billions of copies world wide.
Your little story has once again been proved wrong. If you think you can prove God does not exist you had better think again.
THEN WHERE IS IT?? Where is this original Torah in God's own handwriting?

I asked this question, you never answered. You've proved nothing.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1827 Jan 4, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Again, it's absurd. The story has plants growing before there is a sun. At that point, we can stop if we want to, knowing the story is a myth.
But let's keep going. Eve was made from Adam's rib. Eve would have had the same DNA Adam did. Eve would have been a man.
And Noah's Ark, a totally absurd story. 140,000 birds in a boat lined with tar for months. Have you cleaned up a bird cage with one bird in it after one day? And that's just the birds.
No need to pose another theory, I've shown the buy-bull isn't accurate.
You are forgetting one thing in all your criticism and that is YHVH the creator do you mother think that he accounted for all your rather shallow arguments.
Ad for the world wide flood perhaps you need to read the account again.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#1828 Jan 4, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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So all you have is a written document and verbal evidence from 2 witnesses. There is more evidence for the existence of YHVH the God of Israel and yet you claim I cannot know. Funny that.
Actually, no there is not. The biblical references were not written by the witnesses and were only recorded heresay generations after the supposed events.

This would not be admissible in any court because it is heresay, legend, fables. This is an invalid comparison.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#1829 Jan 4, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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The simple reason is because it is accurate 100% accurate everything, there is no other theory or conjecture that even comes close. Why don't you try to pose one for us?
Who did the "first" children marry and reproduce with? Each other? or with Mom and Dad?

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1830 Jan 4, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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You just keep saying this, but never tell us what that evidence is.
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No, you have not.
So you again ask for what has already been posted well this time allIance will say is go back a few pages on this thread and read it for yourself. I have posted the same thing over and over again and still you ask again.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1831 Jan 4, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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THEN WHERE IS IT?? Where is this original Torah in God's own handwriting?
I asked this question, you never answered. You've proved nothing.
The exact location I do mother know. However it exists in the ark of testimony. As do billions if copies.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1832 Jan 4, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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Actually, no there is not. The biblical references were not written by the witnesses and were only recorded heresay generations after the supposed events.
This would not be admissible in any court because it is heresay, legend, fables. This is an invalid comparison.
What you claim as heresy legend and fable is in fact a 100% accurate account if you choose not to believe then that is your problem. Your denial of the truth does not invalidate it.
The writer of the Torah, mostly Moses wrote first hand and dictation from the creator, no more mo less.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1833 Jan 4, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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Who did the "first" children marry and reproduce with? Each other? or with Mom and Dad?
That is so obvious the children of Adam and Eve inter-married. Now you are really scraping the pre-school barrel.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#1836 Jan 4, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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The exact location I do mother know. However it exists in the ark of testimony. As do billions if copies.
If God wanted mankind to have this message (if not, why write it?), then you are saying someone lost it or hid it and your God did not forsee this or prevent it. Ergo .... he's not God.

Those copies could well be man made fabrications without the divinely written one to compare with.

You have failed to put a dent in my proof at all!

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#1837 Jan 4, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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What you claim as heresy legend and fable is in fact a 100% accurate account if you choose not to believe then that is your problem. Your denial of the truth does not invalidate it.
The writer of the Torah, mostly Moses wrote first hand and dictation from the creator, no more mo less.
First God wrote it himself and now Moses took dictation. If Moses took dictation ... why? Couldn't God write it himself? He didn't know how? He wasn't powerful enough (too tired?)?

If so, again, not the God described in the Bible. You've still got BS.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#1838 Jan 4, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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That is so obvious the children of Adam and Eve inter-married. Now you are really scraping the pre-school barrel.
So this God of yours is eternal and unchanging ... so incest was ok then, but it isn't now? That would mean God changed, that means he's not God.

Why didn't he make more of his creation so they could interbreed? Not powerful enough? Didn't know how?

Try again!! This God's a fraud.

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