Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

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Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking. Full Story

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#1736 Jan 3, 2013
Jumper wrote:
<quoted text>And you love people to scrath yours!
The vapid hole, chimes in with,(as usual) nothing.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#1737 Jan 3, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem is that so many choose to ignore the evidence.
It is easy to ignore what isn't there.

Tell me, do you find it difficult to ignore Poseidon, Thor, Isis or Kali? How about dragons, unicorns and elves? Easy to ignore, right, no evidence of their existence to make you worry that they might be real? The same is true for the buy bull god, if he were real, could the evidence be ignored?

No .... he parted the red sea, not exactly a god who hid from his oft punished, routinely killed and much maligned creations. He couldn't manage to escape the pages of a book, though. So no evidence ... no god, but there is evidence of a book, so let's say with 100% certainty, that the book is real, it does exist.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1738 Jan 3, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Why do you claim that god is the real one?
Simply because I know.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1739 Jan 3, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
But the Torah is full absurdities, so we know it's not totally true.
The Noah's Ark story is so absurd, I doubt it was meant to be taken literally.
No the Torah is not full of absurdities as you claim and yes even through account of Noah and the world wide is 100% factual.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1740 Jan 3, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>It is easy to ignore what isn't there......
.......So no evidence ... no god, but there is evidence of a book, so let's say with 100% certainty, that the book is real, it does exist.
Proof 100% factual that you are choosing to ignore the evidence that surrounds you all day every day. The fact that you are alive is proof of YHVH the God of Israel.

If His written word exists then He to exists, I cannot make you see what you deliberately are blind to. There is none more blind than he who chooses to be blind.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#1741 Jan 3, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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Perhaps if you applied Biblical principles your prayers would be answered.
There is only the one condition ..... that it be asked in his name. That is why all prayers are answered. No Christain has ever lost a loved one, suffered from disease, done without the necessities of life, nor ever doubted his or her god's power.

That seed of faith, is not needed, but if one won't ask "in his name", they still have that option of moving mountains with an infinitesimal bit of faith, such as that which almost every innocent child has in abundance.

It is the never answered prayers (chance indicates it will be 1 out of 2) that teach the adult to doubt, and the spell caster to teach that the fault must lie with the one asking in his name or with their lack of that tiny bit of faith.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1742 Jan 3, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Colin The Zionist wrote: 1) Not all snakes bite, in fact very few do. In your case I think it better if you did lean something about them and leave your obvious irrational fear of snakes.
R.P. wrote: Repeating ... I only need to know that they will.
Colin The Zionist wrote: 2) There is no 3 in 1, the creator of the universe is YHVH, He is one.
R.P. wrote: No Jesus, no holy sprite?
Colin The Zionist wrote: 3) You have posted no real proof that the God of the Bible YHVH is false.
R.P. wrote: You have posted no real proof that the god of the bible, or any god for that matter is real.
Colin The Zionist wrote: 4) Nothing is past due if you knew the patterns in the Bible you would know how wrong you are.
R.P. wrote: Rabbi Jesus made the claim, not me. Of course the people he told, some two thousand years ago, that he would return in their lifetime, are still alive?
Colin The Zionist wrote: It is about time you changed your log on name as you lack of reason makes you look really stupid
R.P. wrote: It is not me, who believes that the god beaten by the iron chariot, is the supreme creator of iron.
To you point 1) if you chose to ignore all snakes that do not bite because there are a few who do, why do you walk or drive or eat people get hurt walking some even die driving some get food poisoning and die a horrifically painful death, the same logic applies or in your case lack of logic.
and point 2) The christian doctrine of the 3 in 1 or the trinity has no biblical basis or grounding it was first dreamed up by a roman catholic bishop called Theophilus of Antioch in about 170. YHVH the God of Israel is one not 3 in 1 or anything else. This doctrine is in deep error and indeed at the root of the corruption of YHVHs truth.
Now to point 3) I gave you evidence you as usual gave nothing. If you chose to be blind and ignore the evidence the that is yous issue with YHVH the God of Israel, not mine.
And point 4) You lack of understanding of the words of Rebbe, Yehoshua Melech HaMoshiach come directly form you lack of understanding of Hebrew culture, language, the Torah the Talmud and of course Rebbe, Yehoshua Melech HaMoshiach himself. Some basic study will correct your incorrect views. The was no such person called Jesus or Rabbi Jesus or any other Jesus in the Bible.
YHVH the God of Israel was not beaten by an iron chariot he never has been nor will he ever be beaten, as you correctly point out if he was he would not be God.

I understand that you refuse to see YHVH the God od Israel for who He is then you can never understand the most basic thing about Him and His creation in which you live.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1743 Jan 3, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>There is only the one condition ..........
Once again you lack of understanding of even the most basic biblical principle is contributing to your posts. Perhaps if you apply the whole Bible not just one verse taken out of context you may understand.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#1744 Jan 3, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
<quoted text>
Proof 100% factual that you are choosing to ignore the evidence that surrounds you all day every day. The fact that you are alive is proof of YHVH the God of Israel.
If His written word exists then He to exists, I cannot make you see what you deliberately are blind to. There is none more blind than he who chooses to be blind.
The written word is proof then of Thor and Kali, too. Also of unicorns and dragons, and Harry Potter.
That thought process makes it very easy, everything ever imagined by man or beast, exists in reality. Not!

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#1745 Jan 3, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
<quoted text>
To you point 1) if you chose to ignore all snakes that do not bite because there are a few who do, why do you walk or drive or eat people get hurt walking some even die driving some get food poisoning and die a horrifically painful death, the same logic applies or in your case lack of logic.
and point 2) The christian doctrine of the 3 in 1 or the trinity has no biblical basis or grounding it was first dreamed up by a roman catholic bishop called Theophilus of Antioch in about 170. YHVH the God of Israel is one not 3 in 1 or anything else. This doctrine is in deep error and indeed at the root of the corruption of YHVHs truth.
Now to point 3) I gave you evidence you as usual gave nothing. If you chose to be blind and ignore the evidence the that is yous issue with YHVH the God of Israel, not mine.
And point 4) You lack of understanding of the words of Rebbe, Yehoshua Melech HaMoshiach come directly form you lack of understanding of Hebrew culture, language, the Torah the Talmud and of course Rebbe, Yehoshua Melech HaMoshiach himself. Some basic study will correct your incorrect views. The was no such person called Jesus or Rabbi Jesus or any other Jesus in the Bible.
YHVH the God of Israel was not beaten by an iron chariot he never has been nor will he ever be beaten, as you correctly point out if he was he would not be God.
I understand that you refuse to see YHVH the God od Israel for who He is then you can never understand the most basic thing about Him and His creation in which you live.
I no longer keep them as pets, for my child's protection, but repeating again ... I only need to know that they will.
Didn't Jesus say different in the book?

Evidence of a book is not evidence of a god.

The bible claims a Jesus, why don't you?

The god of the buybull, according to the bible was beaten by the iron chariot, making him (as we both agree), not a god.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#1746 Jan 3, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
<quoted text>
Once again you lack of understanding of even the most basic biblical principle is contributing to your posts. Perhaps if you apply the whole Bible not just one verse taken out of context you may understand.
That verse does not imply that the entire buybull should be consulted, only that one ask in his name. Jesus lied(according to the book), we got that, we know.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1747 Jan 3, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>The written word is proof then of Thor and Kali, too. Also of unicorns and dragons, and Harry Potter.
That thought process makes it very easy, everything ever imagined by man or beast, exists in reality. Not!
Oh dear; what a tangled web you weave when you try to decieve. We were discussing the written word of YHVH the God of Israel nothing else. By the way dragons and unicorns did exist at one time until extinction took over.

The written word of man does not compare to the written word of God, YHVH the God od Israel.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1748 Jan 3, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>That verse does not imply that the entire buybull should be consulted, only that one ask in his name. Jesus lied(according to the book), we got that, we know.
Read the whole book not just one verse, Your jesus may have lied but Yehoshua the Messiah never did.

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1749 Jan 3, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text> I no longer keep them as pets, for my child's protection, but repeating again ... I only need to know that they will.
Didn't Jesus say different in the book?
Evidence of a book is not evidence of a god.
The bible claims a Jesus, why don't you?
The god of the buybull, according to the bible was beaten by the iron chariot, making him (as we both agree), not a god.
Pity you should get better acquainted with snakes they are not dangerous even the poisonous few are great and wont just bite for the fun of it.

The Bible correctly translated or use in the original tongue does not claim this jesus, if you are referring to the Messiah then His name is Yehoshua, born of Jewish parents live as a Jew and spoke as a Jew. So jesus does not fit the bill of the Jewish Messiah.

Please post you evidence that YHVY God of Israel was ever beaten by an iron chariot, post Book, chapter and verse.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#1750 Jan 3, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh dear; what a tangled web you weave when you try to decieve. We were discussing the written word of YHVH the God of Israel nothing else. By the way dragons and unicorns did exist at one time until extinction took over.
The written word of man does not compare to the written word of God, YHVH the God od Israel.
Well actually, it does compare, man has less tendency to screw up his books, than say, that particular god did. We should consider it, the god of contradiction?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#1751 Jan 3, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that why he let a 14-year old girl get shot in the head for wanting an education?
Is that the "normal way" in which you discuss / debate any topic?

“Israel for Ever and Ever”

Since: Nov 08

Right Here with my feet up

#1752 Jan 3, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Well actually, it does compare, man has less tendency to screw up his books, than say, that particular god did. We should consider it, the god of contradiction?
YHVH the God of Israel and creator of the universe has never messed anything up, He never has nor will he ever, that is the privilege of man as is obvious when I read your posts.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#1753 Jan 4, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
<quoted text>
Pity you should get better acquainted with snakes they are not dangerous even the poisonous few are great and wont just bite for the fun of it.
The Bible correctly translated or use in the original tongue does not claim this jesus, if you are referring to the Messiah then His name is Yehoshua, born of Jewish parents live as a Jew and spoke as a Jew. So jesus does not fit the bill of the Jewish Messiah.
Please post you evidence that YHVY God of Israel was ever beaten by an iron chariot, post Book, chapter and verse.
I no longer keep them as pets, for my child's protection.

bible.cc/judges/1-19.htm - Similarto Judges 1:19 - Online Parallel Bible

And the LORD was with Judah, and he took possession of the hill country, but he could not drive out the inhabitants of the plain because they had chariots of iron ...

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#1754 Jan 4, 2013
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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Read the whole book not just one verse, Your jesus may have lied but Yehoshua the Messiah never did.
I have no Jesus, he is myth confined to the pages of a badly written book, in which a mythological god lies in his promise of death on that same day, should one eat of the tree of knowledge.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#1755 Jan 4, 2013
14 is too old for mohammed, though.
GlitterGashSparkleSnatch wrote:
Allah woulda fuxed her instead a shootin her.

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