Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

There are 14730 comments on the News24 story from Aug 27, 2012, titled Why Atheism Will Replace Religion. In it, News24 reports that:

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

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Since: Jun 07

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#14969 Oct 27, 2013
Janitor wrote:
<quoted text>
You certainly do have a lot of anger. If you don't believe in God, regardless of what one believes God to be, then simply disregard whatever another says. No one forces anyone to "convert" though what you'd be converting to and from is beyond me. It appears you are satisfied with the idea of there being no supreme being or any other concept of God, so why the immense anger?
LCN is a troll and has no interest in adding anything positive to this forum other than to antagonise.

Since: Jun 07

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#14970 Oct 27, 2013
Jumper The Wise wrote:
<quoted text>What's all this about converting you?
That's your choice.
But there must be more to it if you think someone is forcing it on you.
I have to run and pick up a pack of smokes.We can talk later if you wish.
Concentrate on proving the god you lied about you stupid idiot.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14971 Oct 27, 2013
Jumper The Wise wrote:
Skeptic might have found somthing she couldn't explain about religion and is lashing out at men.
When you can prove your god, all your stupid sh*t will matter and not before.
Jumper The Wise

Morgantown, KY

#14972 Oct 27, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>LCNLin is pissing himself with happiness, after all being called a female is an insult to a man, just ask him. Women are filth, his religion says so.
Well then.Whats the deal? Is he a she or she a he?
I don't fuss with women.They are to be spared such harshness as we get very rude on here at times.
Jumper The Wise

Morgantown, KY

#14973 Oct 27, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
When you can prove your god, all your stupid sh*t will matter and not before.
I'll answer that when I figure out your gender.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14974 Oct 28, 2013
Jumper The Wise wrote:
<quoted text>Well then.Whats the deal? Is he a she or she a he?
I don't fuss with women.They are to be spared such harshness as we get very rude on here at times.
You keep coming back for more jumper, just prove your god, answer the question or admit you can't there's a good creationist troll.

Not the reaction you were expecting eh? We like to get to the point in this forum - the point being you're liars with no evidence that squirm and lie when cornered.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14975 Oct 28, 2013
Jumper The Wise wrote:
<quoted text>I'll answer that when I figure out your gender.
Another feeble attempt to change the subject away from the lies you tell us about your failing cult.

As I said, after you have proven your god, all your stupid sh*t will matter and not before.

Its an undeniable fact that you have to accept.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#14976 Oct 28, 2013
Jumper The Wise wrote:
<quoted text>Well then.Whats the deal? Is he a she or she a he?
I don't fuss with women.They are to be spared such harshness as we get very rude on here at times.
Man you are eat up with stupid. That's really good for people who like you, being thier puppet.

You want to know? Ask the dude with his hand up your ass. Not that he knows, or that he would tell you, but that you now have someone telling you, what you want to hear.
LCNLin

Marietta, GA

#14978 Oct 28, 2013
"God Bess America" sung at World Series
and increasing Public Prayer at Government meetings supported by
President Obama

Ricky Dawkins only on Cable
LOL
Jumper The Wise

Morgantown, KY

#14979 Oct 28, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Man you are eat up with stupid. That's really good for people who like you, being thier puppet.
You want to know? Ask the dude with his hand up your ass. Not that he knows, or that he would tell you, but that you now have someone telling you, what you want to hear.
Whooo! You English people really get pizzed off easy!
buckwheat

Tulsa, OK

#14980 Oct 28, 2013
I have one indisputable FACT about the vileness of religion.

If there were NO RELIGION in the world, the World Trade Center would still be standing. Spin that any way you like, christian, and it will still be a FACT.

Before you start casting stones and finger-pointing re-read what I just said.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#14981 Oct 28, 2013
buckwheat wrote:
I have one indisputable FACT about the vileness of religion.
If there were NO RELIGION in the world, the World Trade Center would still be standing. Spin that any way you like, christian, and it will still be a FACT.
Before you start casting stones and finger-pointing re-read what I just said.
Yeah, if there were no lying, thieving murdering atheist Jews, the WTC would still be standing and 3000+ Americans would still be alive, bubba.

"Lucky Larry" Silverstein

You’ve got to be lucky to make $4 Billion killing on a 6-month investment of $124 Million

Larry Silverstein is the New York property tycoon who purchased the entire WTC complex just 6 months prior to the 9/11 attacks. That was the first time in its 33-year history the complex had EVER changed ownership.

Mr. Silverstein’s first order of business as the new owner was to change the company responsible for the security of the complex. The new security company he hired was Securacom (now Stratasec). George W. Bush's brother, Marvin Bush, was on its board of directors, and Marvin’s cousin, Wirt Walker III, was its CEO. According to public records, not only did Securacom provide electronic security for the World Trade Center, it also covered Dulles International Airport and United Airlines — two key players in the 9/11 attacks.

The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for many years to the Bush family. KuwAm has been linked to the Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and a member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served on the board of Stratesec.

Now, consider: The members of a small cabal owned the WTC complex, controlled its electronic security, and also controlled the security not only for one of the airlines whose aircraft were hijacked on 9/11, but the airport from which they originated.

Another little “coincidence”-- Mr. Silversten, who made a down-payment of $124 million on this $3.2 billion complex, promptly insured it for $7 Billion. Not only that, he covered the complex against “terrorist attacks”.

Following the attacks, Silverstein filed TWO insurance claims for the maximum amount of the policy ($7B), based on the two -- in Silverstein's view -- separate attacks. The insurance company, Swiss Re, paid Mr. Silverstein $4.6 Billion — a princely return on a relatively paltry investment of $124 million.

There’s more. You see, the World Trade Towers were not the real estate plum we are led to believe. From an economic standpoint, the trade center -- subsidized since its inception by the NY Port Authority -- has never functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. How could Silverstein Group have been ignorant of this?

The towers required some $200 million in renovations and improvements, most of which related to removal and replacement of building materials declared to be health hazards in the years since the towers were built. It was well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos bombshell. For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an aging dinosaur, attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish the building for liability reasons, but being turned down due the known asbestos problem. Further, it was well-known the only reason the building was still standing until 9/11 was because it was too costly to disassemble the twin towers floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited legally from demolishing the buildings.

The projected cost to disassemble the towers:$15 Billion. Just the scaffolding for the operation was estimated at $2.4 Billion!

In other words, the Twin Towers were condemned structures. How convenient that an unexpected “terrorist” attack demolished the buildings completely....(continued next post)

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#14982 Oct 28, 2013
buckwheat wrote:
I have one indisputable FACT about the vileness of religion.
If there were NO RELIGION in the world, the World Trade Center would still be standing. Spin that any way you like, christian, and it will still be a FACT.
Before you start casting stones and finger-pointing re-read what I just said.
(continued from previous post....)

....WTC Building 7 was a part of the WTC complex, and covered under the same insurance policy. This 47-storey steel-framed structure, which was NOT struck by an aircraft, mysteriously collapsed 8 hours later that same day into its own footprint at freefall speed — exactly in the manner of the Twin Towers.

How could this have happened? Mr. Silverstein gave the world the answer when he slipped up during a PBS television interview a year later, on 9/11/2002:

"I remember getting a call from the...er...fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said,'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

As anyone who knows anything about construction can tell you,“Pull” is common industry jargon for a controlled demolition.

One thing is for sure, the decision to 'pull' WTC 7 would have delighted many people. Especially because it has been reported that thousands of sensitive files relating to some of the biggest financial scams in history — including Enron and WorldCom -- were stored in the offices of some of the building’s tenants:

US Secret Service
NSA
CIA
IRS
BATF
SEC
NAIC Securities
Salomon Smith Barney
American Express Bank International
Standard Chartered Bank
Provident Financial Management
ITT Hartford Insurance Group
Federal Home Loan Bank
The Securities and Exchange Commission has not quantified the number of active cases in which substantial files were destroyed by the collapse of WTC 7. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency's major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom...."Ongoing investigations at the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their work is paper-intensive," said Max Berger of New York's Bernstein Litowitz Berger & Grossmann. "This is a disaster for these cases."

Citigroup says some information that the committee is seeking [about WorldCom] was destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attack on the World Trade Center. Salomon had offices in 7 World Trade Center. The bank says that back-up tapes of corporate emails from September 1998 through December 2000 were stored at the building and destroyed in the attack.

Inside WTC 7 was the US Secret Service's largest field office with more than 200 employees. "All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our cases, went down with the building," according to US Secret Service Special Agent David Curran.

What a neat, complete, and fortuitous turn of events was 9/11.

Incidentally, it’s worth noting that one of Lucky Larry’s closest friends — a person with whom it’s said he speaks almost daily by phone — is none other than former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Questions:

Who were the "investors" who bought millions of dollars worth of "puts" on American and United airlines just before 9-11?

Who sent out emails to over 4000 NY based Jews who worked at the WTC telling them to stay home from work on 9-11?

Who were the five dancing Israelis who had cameras all set up and video recorded the destruction of
the WTC--as it happened?

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14983 Oct 28, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
(continued from previous post....)
....WTC Building 7 was a part of the WTC complex, and covered under the same insurance policy. This 47-storey steel-framed structure, which was NOT struck by an aircraft, mysteriously collapsed 8 hours later that same day into its own footprint at freefall speed — exactly in the manner of the Twin Towers.
How could this have happened? Mr. Silverstein gave the world the answer when he slipped up during a PBS television interview a year later, on 9/11/2002:
"I remember getting a call from the...er...fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said,'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
As anyone who knows anything about construction can tell you,“Pull” is common industry jargon for a controlled demolition.
One thing is for sure, the decision to 'pull' WTC 7 would have delighted many people. Especially because it has been reported that thousands of sensitive files relating to some of the biggest financial scams in history — including Enron and WorldCom -- were stored in the offices of some of the building’s tenants:
US Secret Service
NSA
CIA
IRS
BATF
SEC
NAIC Securities
Salomon Smith Barney
American Express Bank International
Standard Chartered Bank
Provident Financial Management
ITT Hartford Insurance Group
Federal Home Loan Bank
The Securities and Exchange Commission has not quantified the number of active cases in which substantial files were destroyed by the collapse of WTC 7. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency's major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom...."Ongoing investigations at the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their work is paper-intensive," said Max Berger of New York's Bernstein Litowitz Berger & Grossmann. "This is a disaster for these cases."
Citigroup says some information that the committee is seeking [about WorldCom] was destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attack on the World Trade Center. Salomon had offices in 7 World Trade Center. The bank says that back-up tapes of corporate emails from September 1998 through December 2000 were stored at the building and destroyed in the attack.
Inside WTC 7 was the US Secret Service's largest field office with more than 200 employees. "All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our cases, went down with the building," according to US Secret Service Special Agent David Curran.
What a neat, complete, and fortuitous turn of events was 9/11.
Incidentally, it’s worth noting that one of Lucky Larry’s closest friends — a person with whom it’s said he speaks almost daily by phone — is none other than former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Questions:
Who were the "investors" who bought millions of dollars worth of "puts" on American and United airlines just before 9-11?
Who sent out emails to over 4000 NY based Jews who worked at the WTC telling them to stay home from work on 9-11?
Who were the five dancing Israelis who had cameras all set up and video recorded the destruction of
the WTC--as it happened?
Wow. I never would have taken you for a conspiracy nut. I especially liked the part where the conspirators warned "4000 NY based Jews who worked at the WTC telling them to stay home" ... closed mouth bunch, huh? What's your take on Pearl Harbor? Japanese treachery or Jewish plot? What about Enron? The Moon landings? How about UFO's?

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14984 Oct 29, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
"God Bess America" sung at World Series
and increasing Public Prayer at Government meetings supported by
President Obama
Ricky Dawkins only on Cable
LOL
A sure sign of a nutjob is one who laughs at his own jokes.

Another example of Lincoln troll attacking Dawkins because he cannot attack Atheism

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14985 Oct 29, 2013
Jumper The Wise wrote:
<quoted text>Whooo! You English people really get pizzed off easy!
Its easier for you to make this comment, than admit you're a liar with no proof of god for your failing, tired old cult.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14986 Oct 29, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, if there were no lying, thieving murdering atheist Jews, the WTC would still be standing and 3000+ Americans would still be alive, bubba.
"Lucky Larry" Silverstein
You’ve got to be lucky to make $4 Billion killing on a 6-month investment of $124 Million
Larry Silverstein is the New York property tycoon who purchased the entire WTC complex just 6 months prior to the 9/11 attacks. That was the first time in its 33-year history the complex had EVER changed ownership.
Mr. Silverstein’s first order of business as the new owner was to change the company responsible for the security of the complex. The new security company he hired was Securacom (now Stratasec). George W. Bush's brother, Marvin Bush, was on its board of directors, and Marvin’s cousin, Wirt Walker III, was its CEO. According to public records, not only did Securacom provide electronic security for the World Trade Center, it also covered Dulles International Airport and United Airlines — two key players in the 9/11 attacks.
The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., also linked for many years to the Bush family. KuwAm has been linked to the Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and a member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served on the board of Stratesec.
Now, consider: The members of a small cabal owned the WTC complex, controlled its electronic security, and also controlled the security not only for one of the airlines whose aircraft were hijacked on 9/11, but the airport from which they originated.
Another little “coincidence”-- Mr. Silversten, who made a down-payment of $124 million on this $3.2 billion complex, promptly insured it for $7 Billion. Not only that, he covered the complex against “terrorist attacks”.
Following the attacks, Silverstein filed TWO insurance claims for the maximum amount of the policy ($7B), based on the two -- in Silverstein's view -- separate attacks. The insurance company, Swiss Re, paid Mr. Silverstein $4.6 Billion — a princely return on a relatively paltry investment of $124 million.
There’s more. You see, the World Trade Towers were not the real estate plum we are led to believe. From an economic standpoint, the trade center -- subsidized since its inception by the NY Port Authority -- has never functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. How could Silverstein Group have been ignorant of this?
The towers required some $200 million in renovations and improvements, most of which related to removal and replacement of building materials declared to be health hazards in the years since the towers were built. It was well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos bombshell. For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an aging dinosaur, attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish the building for liability reasons, but being turned down due the known asbestos problem. Further, it was well-known the only reason the building was still standing until 9/11 was because it was too costly to disassemble the twin towers floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited legally from demolishing the buildings.
The projected cost to disassemble the towers:$15 Billion. Just the scaffolding for the operation was estimated at $2.4 Billion!
In other words, the Twin Towers were condemned structures. How convenient that an unexpected “terrorist” attack demolished the buildings completely....(continued next post)
The mental illness of creationism is similar to the mental illness that conspiracy theorists suffer from.

They are both delusions of reference.

“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#14987 Nov 13, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
(continued from previous post....)
....WTC Building 7 was a part of the WTC complex, and covered under the same insurance policy. This 47-storey steel-framed structure, which was NOT struck by an aircraft, mysteriously collapsed 8 hours later that same day into its own footprint at freefall speed — exactly in the manner of the Twin Towers.
How could this have happened? Mr. Silverstein gave the world the answer when he slipped up during a PBS television interview a year later, on 9/11/2002:
"I remember getting a call from the...er...fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said,'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
As anyone who knows anything about construction can tell you,“Pull” is common industry jargon for a controlled demolition.
One thing is for sure, the decision to 'pull' WTC 7 would have delighted many people. Especially because it has been reported that thousands of sensitive files relating to some of the biggest financial scams in history — including Enron and WorldCom -- were stored in the offices of some of the building’s tenants:
US Secret Service
NSA
CIA
IRS
BATF
SEC
NAIC Securities
Salomon Smith Barney
American Express Bank International
Standard Chartered Bank
Provident Financial Management
ITT Hartford Insurance Group
Federal Home Loan Bank
The Securities and Exchange Commission has not quantified the number of active cases in which substantial files were destroyed by the collapse of WTC 7. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency's major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom...."Ongoing investigations at the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their work is paper-intensive," said Max Berger of New York's Bernstein Litowitz Berger & Grossmann. "This is a disaster for these cases."
Citigroup says some information that the committee is seeking [about WorldCom] was destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attack on the World Trade Center. Salomon had offices in 7 World Trade Center. The bank says that back-up tapes of corporate emails from September 1998 through December 2000 were stored at the building and destroyed in the attack.
Inside WTC 7 was the US Secret Service's largest field office with more than 200 employees. "All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our cases, went down with the building," according to US Secret Service Special Agent David Curran.
What a neat, complete, and fortuitous turn of events was 9/11.
Incidentally, it’s worth noting that one of Lucky Larry’s closest friends — a person with whom it’s said he speaks almost daily by phone — is none other than former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Questions:
Who were the "investors" who bought millions of dollars worth of "puts" on American and United airlines just before 9-11?
Who sent out emails to over 4000 NY based Jews who worked at the WTC telling them to stay home from work on 9-11?
Who were the five dancing Israelis who had cameras all set up and video recorded the destruction of
the WTC--as it happened?
Got hit by an airliner and collapsed.

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“Trolls are Clueless”

Since: Dec 07

Aptos, California

#14988 Nov 13, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
The mental illness of creationism is similar to the mental illness that conspiracy theorists suffer from.
They are both delusions of reference.
No doubt.
Ratloder

Naugatuck, CT

#14989 Nov 13, 2013
LuLu Ford wrote:
<quoted text>
No doubt.
Start here.
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/middle-east/...

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