Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

There are 14671 comments on the News24 story from Aug 27, 2012, titled Why Atheism Will Replace Religion. In it, News24 reports that:

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at News24.

EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#14661 Sep 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
Communism consisted of two parts, one part was 'Strict Atheism", they were Anti religious people, they tried their very best to root out religion from their countries.
They gave their people "every right" to propagate their "wrong views" against religions and did not allow religious people to answer them back. This was against human nature.
Then they had economic policies, which denied people to hold any land or factory. Everything became "Community Property".
It is strange that Communists talked so much about "Workers and Formers" and their rights, while the people who were persecuted most were "Workers and Farmers"!!
And they failed on agriculture and Industrial output!!
Both policies of Communists, their Atheism and their Economic policies, were against human nature.
That is why Communism failed on both ground.
This Capitalist and Atheist and Materialistic philosophy of so called Western Nations is also against human nature and this also will meet the same end as Communism.
No god/allah sent a prophet to Earth.
Grow up
Thinking

UK

#14662 Sep 18, 2013
All three judaist religions are capitalist in the extreme - including your offshoot.
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Communism consisted of two parts, one part was 'Strict Atheism", they were Anti religious people, they tried their very best to root out religion from their countries.
They gave their people "every right" to propagate their "wrong views" against religions and did not allow religious people to answer them back. This was against human nature.
Then they had economic policies, which denied people to hold any land or factory. Everything became "Community Property".
It is strange that Communists talked so much about "Workers and Formers" and their rights, while the people who were persecuted most were "Workers and Farmers"!!
And they failed on agriculture and Industrial output!!
Both policies of Communists, their Atheism and their Economic policies, were against human nature.
That is why Communism failed on both ground.
This Capitalist and Atheist and Materialistic philosophy of so called Western Nations is also against human nature and this also will meet the same end as Communism.
Dak-Original

Cowdenbeath, UK

#14663 Sep 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Communism consisted of two parts, one part was 'Strict Atheism", they were Anti religious people, they tried their very best to root out religion from their countries.
They gave their people "every right" to propagate their "wrong views" against religions and did not allow religious people to answer them back. This was against human nature.
Then they had economic policies, which denied people to hold any land or factory. Everything became "Community Property".
It is strange that Communists talked so much about "Workers and Formers" and their rights, while the people who were persecuted most were "Workers and Farmers"!!
And they failed on agriculture and Industrial output!!
Both policies of Communists, their Atheism and their Economic policies, were against human nature.
That is why Communism failed on both ground.
This Capitalist and Atheist and Materialistic philosophy of so called Western Nations is also against human nature and this also will meet the same end as Communism.
Communism failed due to economic reasons only. Even the most (85%) in post communist Estonia are still Atheists, despite attempts by missionaries there. Most in Kryghistan are only muslims in name. OH! MUQ!
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#14664 Sep 18, 2013
Dak-Original wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is a belief like religion but it is not a religion....
And disbelief in fairies is just as reasonable and rational as belief in fairies. Oh Dak!
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/atheist
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#14665 Sep 18, 2013
That is why Russia calls US as the exceptionalism.
One of the example is the way of dong things by slaughtering a few hundred thousands of people for nothing in Iraq.

That is the exceptionalism--it is very terrible of the insanity creed by bombing and hitting the unknown (the unknown was even called as a sure known by Bush saying there were definitely for certainty WMD in Iraq), and the uncertainty-- uncertainty included what would happen if any insurgents uprising to do continuous violences so generated by invading Iraq, and many other such bad things and crisis DRAMA resulted as well.

Now Obama is doing that drama recycling again to Syria, with many other such bad examples of DRAMA in Libya , Egypt, as all the same as whatsoever psycho exceptionalism.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14666 Sep 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Communism consisted of two parts, one part was 'Strict Atheism", they were Anti religious people, they tried their very best to root out religion from their countries.
They gave their people "every right" to propagate their "wrong views" against religions and did not allow religious people to answer them back. This was against human nature.
Then they had economic policies, which denied people to hold any land or factory. Everything became "Community Property".
It is strange that Communists talked so much about "Workers and Formers" and their rights, while the people who were persecuted most were "Workers and Farmers"!!
And they failed on agriculture and Industrial output!!
Both policies of Communists, their Atheism and their Economic policies, were against human nature.
That is why Communism failed on both ground.
This Capitalist and Atheist and Materialistic philosophy of so called Western Nations is also against human nature and this also will meet the same end as Communism.
You're a religious liar who has failed to understand atheism.

Now you are riding on the strawman of communism in order to fool us.

What a f*cking bullsh*t cult you work for.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14667 Sep 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
So many things look good on paper, but come out to be "impractical" when you try them out.
Communism was one such thing, it looks very attractive and reasonable, but when you put into practice, you find it is against human nature.
Religions have been in "use" since the time humanity began and they have done their job well!!
This Atheism "fad" is just like Communism and looks good on paper, but once you try it out, it will prove out to be as against human nature as communism was.
Idiot theist with no proof of god blebbering his pig-ignorant cult views in public.

When you are brave enough to prove the god you're lying to us about through your keyboard, you will stop looking like an idiot here.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14668 Sep 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
So many things look good on paper, but come out to be "impractical" when you try them out.
Communism was one such thing, it looks very attractive and reasonable, but when you put into practice, you find it is against human nature.
Religions have been in "use" since the time humanity began and they have done their job well!!
This Atheism "fad" is just like Communism and looks good on paper, but once you try it out, it will prove out to be as against human nature as communism was.
You sure are 'big' on Human Nature. Would you say Human Nature is positive or negative? Kind of a grey area, wouldn't you say. We are capable of everything from the sublime to the ridiculous. From the petty to the magnificent, from the Milk of Human Kindness to tear-your-face-off ugly. Just about what you would expect from a Naked Ape that evolved 'intelligence' and doesn't quite know what to do with it.

One of the things we did with it was INVENT. Invented things like Communism and religion, anesthesia and atom bombs. Positive or Negative? You tell me. We learned how to give and how to take away.

I personally think Communism is a fairly effective way to feed billions of people on limited resources. Same way I'm starting to think Islamic Dictatorship is a fairly effective way to keep primitive nomadic tribes from murdering each other. A variation, of sorts, on how Christianity helps make intelligent, naked apes into harmless consumers who are too busy to think about it much.

Humanity needs Atheists. We're here to remind everybody that it's all bull crap. We are freedom.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14669 Sep 18, 2013
JBH wrote:
That is why Russia calls US as the exceptionalism.
One of the example is the way of dong things by slaughtering a few hundred thousands of people for nothing in Iraq.
That is the exceptionalism--it is very terrible of the insanity creed by bombing and hitting the unknown (the unknown was even called as a sure known by Bush saying there were definitely for certainty WMD in Iraq), and the uncertainty-- uncertainty included what would happen if any insurgents uprising to do continuous violences so generated by invading Iraq, and many other such bad things and crisis DRAMA resulted as well.
Now Obama is doing that drama recycling again to Syria, with many other such bad examples of DRAMA in Libya , Egypt, as all the same as whatsoever psycho exceptionalism.
EVERYTHING VIOLENT we do in the Middle East is in response to violence. EVERYTHING COMMERCIAL we do in the region is to feed our EXCEPTIONAL need for energy. I would much rather see the United Nations become an effective World Policeman, but I guess that ain't going to happen. WMD's exist in the region. Maybe they move around. Maybe the Sarin Assad is using against his rebels was moved out of Iraq. Maybe the Iranians only want nuclear power for their toaster ovens and public address systems. Who knows? I don't know. Do you know? Did Bush? Does Obama? How about the CIA?

How about making the country you live in 'exceptional'? If we can do it ... anybody can. Without 'exceptional' what do you have? Bland. You want the world to be BLAND? There's your problem! You think the world should be BLAND, so you have become a BLAND citizen of a BLAND country, bleating meekly for a BLAND world. What? Your country isn't BLAND?!?!? Sounds like you got a bad case of NATIONALISM!! What? Don't want NATIONALISM? EXCEPTIONALISM getting you down? How about BANALISM?!?!? Let's hoist up the old BANAL flag and see if we can't get a rally going around THAT!!

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14670 Sep 18, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
again and again everyday people are telling you things and you choose to ignore them and repeat your cult nonsense.
As I said before - mental illness.
The exceptionally bad mental illness of Religious Godbotism!
JBH

Richmond, Canada

#14671 Sep 18, 2013
DROP THE CHEMICAL WEAPONS ISSUE PURSUIT FIRST.
STOP THE FIGHTING AT THE SAME TIME.
GET PEOPLE BACK TO THEIR USUAL AND ORDINARY LIVES AND ACTIVITIES.
THEN after that, THERE ARE LOTS OF TIME TO TALK AND FIGURE OUT CHEMICAL WEAPONS, and for talks of what the Syrian people want in regard to see what rebels have to say.
Otherwise, by using chemical weapons issue, it will never have an end and will have another Iraq bad crisis drama.

They are not the chemical weapons which cause disaster and destruction to the Syrian people, but the infighting form Muslim rebels, and the threat of US strike .

These civil violences have destroyed the everyday life of the Syrian people, from schools, to work places, to homes, that people feel unsafe that many have to flee because of all the violences doing on both sides.

As It is not possible to have Syria regime to give up, it is required that rebels must stop then, so that people can return to homes and usual living.

The only thing necessary is that rebels give up fighting, so that Syrian people can come back to ordinary activities.

Obama is wrong by keeping on talking on chemical weapons, for that will destroy more lives and cause large unstable activities of the region, where lots of more people can never return to their ordinary activities again.

It is never about chemical weapons issue, because by far that does not affect most people.

Instead of having Syrian people come back to their usual lives, Obama's vicious way of siding with rebels to encourage them fighting and inflaming on chemical weapons issue has resulted the destruction of daily routine activities of the Syrian people.

When that is done, go from there, and talk chemical weapons later, as people get back to their lives in order first.

The stand to have Syrian people to do ordinary lives and activities has not anything to do with chemical weapons. Yet, using chemical weapons indulging has worsened the Syrians to get back to their way of life because Syrians are not killed by sarin gas at all, by far, but will be killed BY US strike by doing chemical weapons issue.

So, they have to give up the chemical weapons issue and Rebels fighting first, as that is the only way of Syrian people can go back home, go to schools, and go back to work as they need those first.
Since Syrian people are not afraid of sarin gas, what is the point of Obama by talking about sarin gas to strike to kill them?

CONCLUSION IS the NO STRIKE AND NO HIT OF SYRIA ,as whatever WILL BE, if it is BASED on CHEMICAL Weapons issue, when Syria abandons agreement on chemical weapons proposal, at the same time with evidence of sarin gas usage or not by any one.

THROW AWAY WHAT OBAMA SAYS.
Otherwise, by using chemical weapons issue, it will never have an end and will have another Iraq bad crisis drama.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14672 Sep 18, 2013
Dak-Original wrote:
<quoted text>
Communism failed due to economic reasons only. Even the most (85%) in post communist Estonia are still Atheists, despite attempts by missionaries there. Most in Kryghistan are only muslims in name. OH! MUQ!
No sane person would willingly go to church or worship invisible sky-daddies. They have to be coerced or programmed from birth. It's hard to get 'em back on the farm once they've seen the Big City.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14673 Sep 18, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
Communism consisted of two parts, one part was 'Strict Atheism", they were Anti religious people, they tried their very best to root out religion from their countries.
They gave their people "every right" to propagate their "wrong views" against religions and did not allow religious people to answer them back. This was against human nature.
Then they had economic policies, which denied people to hold any land or factory. Everything became "Community Property".
It is strange that Communists talked so much about "Workers and Formers" and their rights, while the people who were persecuted most were "Workers and Farmers"!!
And they failed on agriculture and Industrial output!!
Both policies of Communists, their Atheism and their Economic policies, were against human nature.
That is why Communism failed on both ground.
This Capitalist and Atheist and Materialistic philosophy of so called Western Nations is also against human nature and this also will meet the same end as Communism.
I think it's important, in these troubled, uncertain times, to limber up the old DICTIONARY whenever matters arise of uncertain provenance. Let's look at this <courtesy of "Free Online Dictionary">:

"com·mu·nism (kmy-nzm)
n.
1. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
2. Communism
a. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
b. The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat."

Tell me MUQ ... did you SEE the word 'atheist' in there? Please point it out 'cause I can't see it. YET ... you say 'strict Atheism' is half of what Communism is. The folks at "Free Online Dictionary" must have missed it as well. Maybe they're not trying to promulgate an empty philosophy by way of false association! Yeah, maybe that's it. You see MUQ ... there's the "REAL" and there's the world as godbots see it. It's not the same, MUQ. Y'all really need to work on that.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14674 Sep 18, 2013
JBH wrote:
DROP THE CHEMICAL WEAPONS ISSUE PURSUIT FIRST.
STOP THE FIGHTING AT THE SAME TIME.
GET PEOPLE BACK TO THEIR USUAL AND ORDINARY LIVES AND ACTIVITIES.
THEN after that, THERE ARE LOTS OF TIME TO TALK AND FIGURE OUT CHEMICAL WEAPONS, and for talks of what the Syrian people want in regard to see what rebels have to say.
Otherwise, by using chemical weapons issue, it will never have an end and will have another Iraq bad crisis drama.
They are not the chemical weapons which cause disaster and destruction to the Syrian people, but the infighting form Muslim rebels, and the threat of US strike .
These civil violences have destroyed the everyday life of the Syrian people, from schools, to work places, to homes, that people feel unsafe that many have to flee because of all the violences doing on both sides.
As It is not possible to have Syria regime to give up, it is required that rebels must stop then, so that people can return to homes and usual living.
The only thing necessary is that rebels give up fighting, so that Syrian people can come back to ordinary activities.
Obama is wrong by keeping on talking on chemical weapons, for that will destroy more lives and cause large unstable activities of the region, where lots of more people can never return to their ordinary activities again.
It is never about chemical weapons issue, because by far that does not affect most people.
Instead of having Syrian people come back to their usual lives, Obama's vicious way of siding with rebels to encourage them fighting and inflaming on chemical weapons issue has resulted the destruction of daily routine activities of the Syrian people.
When that is done, go from there, and talk chemical weapons later, as people get back to their lives in order first.
The stand to have Syrian people to do ordinary lives and activities has not anything to do with chemical weapons. Yet, using chemical weapons indulging has worsened the Syrians to get back to their way of life because Syrians are not killed by sarin gas at all, by far, but will be killed BY US strike by doing chemical weapons issue.
So, they have to give up the chemical weapons issue and Rebels fighting first, as that is the only way of Syrian people can go back home, go to schools, and go back to work as they need those first.
Since Syrian people are not afraid of sarin gas, what is the point of Obama by talking about sarin gas to strike to kill them?
CONCLUSION IS the NO STRIKE AND NO HIT OF SYRIA ,as whatever WILL BE, if it is BASED on CHEMICAL Weapons issue, when Syria abandons agreement on chemical weapons proposal, at the same time with evidence of sarin gas usage or not by any one.
THROW AWAY WHAT OBAMA SAYS.
Otherwise, by using chemical weapons issue, it will never have an end and will have another Iraq bad crisis drama.
I am 100% for citizens of Nations working out their own problems. By vote or by revolution as befits the nature of their government. I've been to Syria several times and I've never seen a people more frightened of their government. I say "Viva la revolucion" !!!
Yolo

Lexington, KY

#14675 Sep 18, 2013
Is there anything bad that a person can do without feeling guilty?

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#14676 Sep 18, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
I think it's important, in these troubled, uncertain times, to limber up the old DICTIONARY whenever matters arise of uncertain provenance. Let's look at this <courtesy of "Free Online Dictionary">:
"com·mu·nism (kmy-nzm)
n.
1. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
2. Communism
a. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
b. The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat."
Tell me MUQ ... did you SEE the word 'atheist' in there? Please point it out 'cause I can't see it. YET ... you say 'strict Atheism' is half of what Communism is. The folks at "Free Online Dictionary" must have missed it as well. Maybe they're not trying to promulgate an empty philosophy by way of false association! Yeah, maybe that's it. You see MUQ ... there's the "REAL" and there's the world as godbots see it. It's not the same, MUQ. Y'all really need to work on that.
You atheist bubbas are such a hoot....

"Marxist–Leninist atheism is a part of the wider Marxist–Leninist philosophy (the type of Marxist philosophy found in the Soviet Union), which rejects religion and advocates a materialist understanding of nature. Marxism-Leninism holds that religion is the opium of the people, in the sense of promoting passive acceptance of suffering on Earth in the hope of eternal reward. Therefore, Marxism-Leninism advocates the abolition of religion and the acceptance of atheism. Marxist-Leninist atheism has its roots in the philosophy of Ludwig Feuerbach, G.W.F. Hegel, Karl Marx, and Vladimir Lenin."

h t t p :// e n . w i k i p e d i a . o r g / w i k i / M a r x i s t L e n i n i s t _ a t h e i s m
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#14677 Sep 18, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
You atheist bubbas are such a hoot.......
While the religious are simply daft.

There's no such thing as gods or pixies.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14678 Sep 18, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
You atheist bubbas are such a hoot....
"Marxist–Leninist atheism is a part of the wider Marxist–Leninist philosophy (the type of Marxist philosophy found in the Soviet Union), which rejects religion and advocates a materialist understanding of nature. Marxism-Leninism holds that religion is the opium of the people, in the sense of promoting passive acceptance of suffering on Earth in the hope of eternal reward. Therefore, Marxism-Leninism advocates the abolition of religion and the acceptance of atheism. Marxist-Leninist atheism has its roots in the philosophy of Ludwig Feuerbach, G.W.F. Hegel, Karl Marx, and Vladimir Lenin."
h t t p :// e n . w i k i p e d i a . o r g / w i k i / M a r x i s t L e n i n i s t _ a t h e i s m
You say you 'seek' truth ... has there ever been a truer statement than "Religion is the opiate of the Proletariat"? They hoped to replace the "passive acceptance of suffering on Earth in the hope of eternal reward" with something a little more real. Your quotes don't really convey (nor does History) how 'big a deal' all this State promoted Atheism was. Did they burn godbots at the stake? Were people herded off to Gulag for their religions? I think not. Their system ultimately failed and I don't think it was because we 'out prayed' them or anything. In a country that 'pushes' religion via tax breaks and mass media can you really deny that 'they'(the government, the puppet-masters of the Military/Industrial Complex) are desirous of sustaining the addiction? Doesn't it make the job of the State easier if it's citizens have a "passive acceptance of suffering"? Even Creationism in public schools can be seen as pushing this particular 'opiate' on a immature and unsuspecting population. You're not doing anybody any favors here, Bubba.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14679 Sep 18, 2013
Yolo wrote:
Is there anything bad that a person can do without feeling guilty?
No. Next question.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#14680 Sep 18, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
You say you 'seek' truth ... has there ever been a truer statement than "Religion is the opiate of the Proletariat"? They hoped to replace the "passive acceptance of suffering on Earth in the hope of eternal reward" with something a little more real. Your quotes don't really convey (nor does History) how 'big a deal' all this State promoted Atheism was. Did they burn godbots at the stake? Were people herded off to Gulag for their religions? I think not. Their system ultimately failed and I don't think it was because we 'out prayed' them or anything. In a country that 'pushes' religion via tax breaks and mass media can you really deny that 'they'(the government, the puppet-masters of the Military/Industrial Complex) are desirous of sustaining the addiction? Doesn't it make the job of the State easier if it's citizens have a "passive acceptance of suffering"? Even Creationism in public schools can be seen as pushing this particular 'opiate' on a immature and unsuspecting population. You're not doing anybody any favors here, Bubba.
You claimed in this post that Marxist-Leninist communism was not about atheism:
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
I think it's important, in these troubled, uncertain times, to limber up the old DICTIONARY whenever matters arise of uncertain provenance. Let's look at this <courtesy of "Free Online Dictionary">:
"com·mu·nism (kmy-nzm)
n.
1. A theoretical economic system characterized by the collective ownership of property and by the organization of labor for the common advantage of all members.
2. Communism
a. A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single, often authoritarian party holds power, claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which all goods are equally shared by the people.
b. The Marxist-Leninist version of Communist doctrine that advocates the overthrow of capitalism by the revolution of the proletariat."
Tell me MUQ ... did you SEE the word 'atheist' in there? Please point it out 'cause I can't see it. YET ... you say 'strict Atheism' is half of what Communism is. The folks at "Free Online Dictionary" must have missed it as well. Maybe they're not trying to promulgate an empty philosophy by way of false association! Yeah, maybe that's it. You see MUQ ... there's the "REAL" and there's the world as godbots see it. It's not the same, MUQ. Y'all really need to work on that.
You were obviously wrong and either you're just talking out of your ass or you're deliberately lying.

Ironically, Marx and Lenin ripped off Jesus teachings on communal living which made it so much easier for these "wolves in sheep clothing" to sell it to the masses they intended to exploit. By the time the masses woke up to what communism really was, i.e. that all that crap about equality meant they were supposed to hand over all their personal property and slave for benefit of a bunch of lying, thieving, murdering atheists who were "more equal" than the masses, 80 million people were slaughtered in Russia alone--180 to 240 million murdered worldwide.

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