Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: News24

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

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I wish, we could live in that "ideal world" which you are dreaming of.
And your diagnosis is wrong that "the root cause" we do not have ideal world is because of religion.
Why you forgot about "Communist experience"? That regime was devoid of religion, why it could not create that Ideal world which they dream of?
The world which you have dream of and much better with all "positives" and no "negatives" is indeed the eternal abode of those who pass this test of human life!!
Why not prepare for it, right now?
Communism was not just Atheism! Communism failed because it was not compatible with human nature of self interest at least 50% of the time! It was then economical failure of the centrally planned system that exposed communism as unworkable! Typically, you want to jump to the conclusion of your liking! OH! MUQ!

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Atheism is already the default position in many countries in the world. In Estonia "76% of the population state no specific religious affiliation." If >you< were born in Estonia to an atheist family, what are the chances you would be a devout muslim? In reality, next to zero.
My bet is that those 76% don't consider themselves "Atheist" either. The word does ride on the coat-tails of religion and is just as loaded with negative implications. It's a shame really. As soon as you pick a word you think describes "no specific religious affiliation" somebody is going to start calling it a 'religion'. Misery loves company!

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I wish, we could live in that "ideal world" which you are dreaming of.
And your diagnosis is wrong that "the root cause" we do not have ideal world is because of religion.
Why you forgot about "Communist experience"? That regime was devoid of religion, why it could not create that Ideal world which they dream of?
The world which you have dream of and much better with all "positives" and no "negatives" is indeed the eternal abode of those who pass this test of human life!!
Why not prepare for it, right now?
I borrowed liberally from H.G. Wells "The Time Machine" for my fanciful future. As we all know, monsters still lurked and preyed upon the innocent Eloi. I'm sure most political-economic systems that come to rate their own 'ism' aim for a similar idyllic future and must wrestle their own monsters. Unfortunately, that monster is US (not the United States, but US as in 'we the people', Humanity ... me & you). Religion and most of the 'bad' things we Humans do have been tied together in a long dance since Time (or at least recorded History) began. Maybe the Commies thought if you throw out religion the other 'bad things' would go with it. After all, if you fairly share the labor and the goods ... what's anybody got to complain about? Looks good on paper!

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I borrowed liberally from H.G. Wells "The Time Machine" for my fanciful future. As we all know, monsters still lurked and preyed upon the innocent Eloi. I'm sure most political-economic systems that come to rate their own 'ism' aim for a similar idyllic future and must wrestle their own monsters. Unfortunately, that monster is US (not the United States, but US as in 'we the people', Humanity ... me & you). Religion and most of the 'bad' things we Humans do have been tied together in a long dance since Time (or at least recorded History) began. Maybe the Commies thought if you throw out religion the other 'bad things' would go with it. After all, if you fairly share the labor and the goods ... what's anybody got to complain about? Looks good on paper!
There will always be that segment of a population that won't be satisfied with "enough"

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<quoted text>There will always be that segment of a population that won't be satisfied with "enough"
Yeah. I've come full circle. From a 'doom & gloom' Global Warming apocalypse, through a 'religion free Garden of Eloi' back to stark reality. The 'bots outnumber us 10 to 1 and there's no sign they are going to change any time soon. That "segment" rests firmly within the religious contingent for whom an eternal existence in Paradise, rubbing elbows with the Supreme Creator-being, is barely sufficient.

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Yeah. I've come full circle. From a 'doom & gloom' Global Warming apocalypse, through a 'religion free Garden of Eloi' back to stark reality. The 'bots outnumber us 10 to 1 and there's no sign they are going to change any time soon. That "segment" rests firmly within the religious contingent for whom an eternal existence in Paradise, rubbing elbows with the Supreme Creator-being, is barely sufficient.
Well said.

I'd be a lot less annoyed with the godbots if they actually were what they claim to be instead of the polar-opposite they present to us here.

BTW... I really enjoy reading your posts. You have a great knack for, and grasp of, the language

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<quoted text>Well said.
I'd be a lot less annoyed with the godbots if they actually were what they claim to be instead of the polar-opposite they present to us here.
BTW... I really enjoy reading your posts. You have a great knack for, and grasp of, the language
Well ... that and a dollar (or two or three) will get ya a cup of coffee. But, thanks! I enjoy inflicting them on people ...
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<quoted text>It has been defined again and again for you, and it seems that you choose not to understand.
The lack of theism, that is the definition, it is not a positive nor a negative definition. It is incredibly simple to understand. Atheism is just the lack of theism.
If there is no cancer, is that negative?
If there are no Pixies, is that positive?
The atheist isn't theist, and atheism is the lack of theism.
Are you a parrot?

Repeating the same old song? Again and Again, why can't you "invent" a positive definition of Atheism in all this time?

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Again the same "Negative" definition, not able to define what Atheism is and who is an atheist!!
Do you understand what capital letters are? I will define atheism and I will type it in capital letters so that you might have a chance of seeing the beam in your own eye.

>>> ATHEISM IS THE LACK OF THEISM <<<

That is the definition. It is not negative, and it clearly defines atheism. Atheism is the lack of theism. And to define atheist, is just as simple, it is one who is not theist.

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Are you a parrot?
Repeating the same old song? Again and Again, why can't you "invent" a positive definition of Atheism in all this time?
The word is not mine to define. If I were to invent a definition, It would be a lie, I am not a liar. You have been given the correct definition again and again, and you will not see the truth, no matter how often it is shown to you, why?

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Are you a parrot?
Repeating the same old song? Again and Again, why can't you "invent" a positive definition of Atheism in all this time?
again and again everyday people are telling you things and you choose to ignore them and repeat your cult nonsense.

As I said before - mental illness.
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I borrowed liberally from H.G. Wells "The Time Machine" for my fanciful future. As we all know, monsters still lurked and preyed upon the innocent Eloi. I'm sure most political-economic systems that come to rate their own 'ism' aim for a similar idyllic future and must wrestle their own monsters.

Unfortunately, that monster is US (not the United States, but US as in 'we the people', Humanity ... me & you). Religion and most of the 'bad' things we Humans do have been tied together in a long dance since Time (or at least recorded History) began.

Maybe the Commies thought if you throw out religion the other 'bad things' would go with it. After all, if you fairly share the labor and the goods ... what's anybody got to complain about? Looks good on paper!
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So many things look good on paper, but come out to be "impractical" when you try them out.

Communism was one such thing, it looks very attractive and reasonable, but when you put into practice, you find it is against human nature.

Religions have been in "use" since the time humanity began and they have done their job well!!

This Atheism "fad" is just like Communism and looks good on paper, but once you try it out, it will prove out to be as against human nature as communism was.

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Communism was not just Atheism! Communism failed because it was not compatible with human nature of self interest at least 50% of the time!

It was then economical failure of the centrally planned system that exposed communism as unworkable! Typically, you want to jump to the conclusion of your liking! OH! MUQ!
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Communism consisted of two parts, one part was 'Strict Atheism", they were Anti religious people, they tried their very best to root out religion from their countries.

They gave their people "every right" to propagate their "wrong views" against religions and did not allow religious people to answer them back. This was against human nature.

Then they had economic policies, which denied people to hold any land or factory. Everything became "Community Property".

It is strange that Communists talked so much about "Workers and Formers" and their rights, while the people who were persecuted most were "Workers and Farmers"!!

And they failed on agriculture and Industrial output!!

Both policies of Communists, their Atheism and their Economic policies, were against human nature.

That is why Communism failed on both ground.

This Capitalist and Atheist and Materialistic philosophy of so called Western Nations is also against human nature and this also will meet the same end as Communism.
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So many things look good on paper, but come out to be "impractical" when you try them out.
Communism was one such thing, it looks very attractive and reasonable, but when you put into practice, you find it is against human nature.
Religions have been in "use" since the time humanity began and they have done their job well!!
This Atheism "fad" is just like Communism and looks good on paper, but once you try it out, it will prove out to be as against human nature as communism was.
Atheism is a belief like religion but it is not a religion. However, the Atheist lot are far more logical than those who tell us belief matters are the "truth". Yes, the Atheists have no answer as the why of all existence and then as even Professor Dawkins altered his stance to state that "probably there is no GOD" from "there is no GOD"! Human psyche evolved in belief and hence GOD is needed but then it does not follow that a disproved belief system is the answer. OH! MUQ!
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Communism consisted of two parts, one part was 'Strict Atheism", they were Anti religious people, they tried their very best to root out religion from their countries.
They gave their people "every right" to propagate their "wrong views" against religions and did not allow religious people to answer them back. This was against human nature.
Then they had economic policies, which denied people to hold any land or factory. Everything became "Community Property".
It is strange that Communists talked so much about "Workers and Formers" and their rights, while the people who were persecuted most were "Workers and Farmers"!!
And they failed on agriculture and Industrial output!!
Both policies of Communists, their Atheism and their Economic policies, were against human nature.
That is why Communism failed on both ground.
This Capitalist and Atheist and Materialistic philosophy of so called Western Nations is also against human nature and this also will meet the same end as Communism.
No god/allah sent a prophet to Earth.
Grow up
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All three judaist religions are capitalist in the extreme - including your offshoot.
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Communism consisted of two parts, one part was 'Strict Atheism", they were Anti religious people, they tried their very best to root out religion from their countries.
They gave their people "every right" to propagate their "wrong views" against religions and did not allow religious people to answer them back. This was against human nature.
Then they had economic policies, which denied people to hold any land or factory. Everything became "Community Property".
It is strange that Communists talked so much about "Workers and Formers" and their rights, while the people who were persecuted most were "Workers and Farmers"!!
And they failed on agriculture and Industrial output!!
Both policies of Communists, their Atheism and their Economic policies, were against human nature.
That is why Communism failed on both ground.
This Capitalist and Atheist and Materialistic philosophy of so called Western Nations is also against human nature and this also will meet the same end as Communism.
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MUQ wrote:
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Communism consisted of two parts, one part was 'Strict Atheism", they were Anti religious people, they tried their very best to root out religion from their countries.
They gave their people "every right" to propagate their "wrong views" against religions and did not allow religious people to answer them back. This was against human nature.
Then they had economic policies, which denied people to hold any land or factory. Everything became "Community Property".
It is strange that Communists talked so much about "Workers and Formers" and their rights, while the people who were persecuted most were "Workers and Farmers"!!
And they failed on agriculture and Industrial output!!
Both policies of Communists, their Atheism and their Economic policies, were against human nature.
That is why Communism failed on both ground.
This Capitalist and Atheist and Materialistic philosophy of so called Western Nations is also against human nature and this also will meet the same end as Communism.
Communism failed due to economic reasons only. Even the most (85%) in post communist Estonia are still Atheists, despite attempts by missionaries there. Most in Kryghistan are only muslims in name. OH! MUQ!
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Atheism is a belief like religion but it is not a religion....
And disbelief in fairies is just as reasonable and rational as belief in fairies. Oh Dak!
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/atheist
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That is why Russia calls US as the exceptionalism.
One of the example is the way of dong things by slaughtering a few hundred thousands of people for nothing in Iraq.

That is the exceptionalism--it is very terrible of the insanity creed by bombing and hitting the unknown (the unknown was even called as a sure known by Bush saying there were definitely for certainty WMD in Iraq), and the uncertainty-- uncertainty included what would happen if any insurgents uprising to do continuous violences so generated by invading Iraq, and many other such bad things and crisis DRAMA resulted as well.

Now Obama is doing that drama recycling again to Syria, with many other such bad examples of DRAMA in Libya , Egypt, as all the same as whatsoever psycho exceptionalism.

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Communism consisted of two parts, one part was 'Strict Atheism", they were Anti religious people, they tried their very best to root out religion from their countries.
They gave their people "every right" to propagate their "wrong views" against religions and did not allow religious people to answer them back. This was against human nature.
Then they had economic policies, which denied people to hold any land or factory. Everything became "Community Property".
It is strange that Communists talked so much about "Workers and Formers" and their rights, while the people who were persecuted most were "Workers and Farmers"!!
And they failed on agriculture and Industrial output!!
Both policies of Communists, their Atheism and their Economic policies, were against human nature.
That is why Communism failed on both ground.
This Capitalist and Atheist and Materialistic philosophy of so called Western Nations is also against human nature and this also will meet the same end as Communism.
You're a religious liar who has failed to understand atheism.

Now you are riding on the strawman of communism in order to fool us.

What a f*cking bullsh*t cult you work for.

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