Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

There are 14730 comments on the News24 story from Aug 27, 2012, titled Why Atheism Will Replace Religion. In it, News24 reports that:

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

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“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14293 Aug 27, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Humans did not "evolve" from any animals, that is a very wrong and very non scientific thing to say and there is no proof for that hypothesis.
Human's appearance on this earth what we call it "digital"!! Zero and One and no state between them.
There was a time when there was no Human on this earth and ALL of SUDDEN , in a flash humans appeared on this earth!!
And your observation that in only 300 generations they achieved what no other specie could do in a million generations!!
Humans were created special and they shall remain special all the way...
That leads us to our next question, is it an "open ended" scheme? Will human race survive for ever?
What does science say about it?
Wow, MUQ! What a frighteningly ignorant and unenlightened thing to say. That there are Human Beings on the planet from supposedly advanced civilizations who are still this ignorant of the facts is very sad. I am sorry for you. Take comfort in the knowledge that you would make a great Poster Child for the 'Too Much Religion is a Bad Thing' movement.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#14294 Aug 28, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
In my humble opinion, the Syrian people won't tolerate another oppressor. It would be hard to imagine a more extreme Muslim than Assad. He's what every extreme Muslim dreams of becoming ... Supreme Dictator of their very own nation!!
A Osama would be worse. We have to be careful about aiding the rebels, lest a Morsi should erupt.
Dak-Original

Leeds, UK

#14295 Aug 28, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Humans did not "evolve" from any animals, that is a very wrong and very non scientific thing to say and there is no proof for that hypothesis.
Human's appearance on this earth what we call it "digital"!! Zero and One and no state between them.
There was a time when there was no Human on this earth and ALL of SUDDEN , in a flash humans appeared on this earth!!
And your observation that in only 300 generations they achieved what no other specie could do in a million generations!!
Humans were created special and they shall remain special all the way...
That leads us to our next question, is it an "open ended" scheme? Will human race survive for ever?
What does science say about it?
Non-scientific to say that humans evolved like all other species on the earth? On which planet does this MUQ live? Or in what era does he live? Humans suddenly appeared and the rest evolved? Or the rest was placed earlier for "human benefit only"? MUQ is defending discredited beliefs and he knows it. He is wrong and to preach falsehood about such issues knowing them to be wrong can be said tom evil even if one life is lost by ignorant pleb who is misled. OH! MUQ!
Dak-Original

Leeds, UK

#14296 Aug 28, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, MUQ! What a frighteningly ignorant and unenlightened thing to say. That there are Human Beings on the planet from supposedly advanced civilizations who are still this ignorant of the facts is very sad. I am sorry for you. Take comfort in the knowledge that you would make a great Poster Child for the 'Too Much Religion is a Bad Thing' movement.
MUQ is an Indian muslim jihadist and works for a Saudi jihadist outfit. He is then drenched in his religion and its political aims.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#14298 Aug 28, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Your answer posits that modern humans have only been around for 50,000 years. That's wrong. What part of "wrong" do you fail to understand?
And, the guys and gals at UC Berkeley have done another math redo and pushed the date for the emergence of Mitochondrial Eve, the mother of all modern humans, even further back to between 140,000 and 200,000 BP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Ev...
The dates for the emergence of Y-chromosomal Adam, the father of all modern humans, vary between 188,000 and 338,000 BP, and DNA evidence says grandpa Adam had at least two sons. LOL Imagine that...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Ad...
It looks like modern humans weren't that much different from other animals for well over a 100,000 years before the clock stuck 12,000 BP. Then everything about the way humans behaved obviously changed. The question no evolution theory has ever answered is what caused this change to occur?
Why are you even talking when you haven't produced even a drop of evidence for the god of your mental illness?

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14301 Aug 28, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you even talking when you haven't produced even a drop of evidence for the god of your mental illness?
He's leading up to it. Something undeniably magical must have happened 12000 (or 6000 ... let's just say '300 generations' ago). The 'reveal' is coming and I'm sure we'll all be on our knees worshiping something before it's all over.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#14302 Aug 28, 2013
RHill wrote:
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Your understanding of evolutionary processes seem limited. When a species is presented with changing environmental conditions, SOME OF IT'S POPULATION may possess characteristics that provide a benefit under the new conditions. For instance, our species has populated the Earth from the frozen North to Equatorial Africa, by virtue of some minor adaptations such as melatonin concentration, subcutaneous fat layers, etc. Should Global Warming dominate or a new Ice Age dawn, there will still be people who will feel right at home. Species only die out when they have become over-specialized or confined themselves somehow to too narrow an ecological niche.
"By simple mathematics, it follows that the human race is about 300 generations old. If one assumes a typical generation is about 20 years, this gives an age of about 6000 years." <courtesy of some creationist website>
I was wondering why you keep harping on the '300 generation' thing. Problem is, you and your creationist buddys can't agree whether 300 generations is 6000 or 12000 years. What variation on this rather tired theme do you intend to play here Bucko? Do you really think you are on to something that has stumped evolution or science? LOL
Evolution says even if some individual members of a species population already possess traits that will enable them to survive environmental change, unless there are enough of those individual members which survive, thrive and reproduce in viable numbers, the species will die out and go extinct like millions of other species have.

The length of time designated for a “generation” is different for every science. Geneticists generally use 29 years for female line generations and 34 years for male line generations. Anthropologists and sociologists have been using a 40 year generation model for about 100 years because the evidence of the archaeological record indicates that all human cultures/societies everywhere on the globe have been adopting new paradigms and reinventing themselves, their religions, world views, etc, about every 40 years for the last 12,000.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#14303 Aug 28, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
He's leading up to it. Something undeniably magical must have happened 12000 (or 6000 ... let's just say '300 generations' ago). The 'reveal' is coming and I'm sure we'll all be on our knees worshiping something before it's all over.
Ugh, uh. Not unless, one of it's major components is bacon.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#14304 Aug 28, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Humans did not "evolve" from any animals, that is a very wrong and very non scientific thing to say and there is no proof for that hypothesis.
Human's appearance on this earth what we call it "digital"!! Zero and One and no state between them.
There was a time when there was no Human on this earth and ALL of SUDDEN , in a flash humans appeared on this earth!!
And your observation that in only 300 generations they achieved what no other specie could do in a million generations!!
Humans were created special and they shall remain special all the way...
That leads us to our next question, is it an "open ended" scheme? Will human race survive for ever?
What does science say about it?
There's no proof for any hypothesis regarding the origins of humans, scientific or religious. Nobody knows.

At this point in human history, I think the question of whether or not humans appeared on Earth "all of a sudden" is less important than the very real possibility that humans may soon disappear from the earth "all of a sudden".

No, i don't see humans surviving forever.

Science says the Earth's diverse plant and animal species are going extinct at alarming, unprecedented rates due to human activities. Science says the human species has already experienced five near extinction events in the past that only a few hundred or thousanAd humans survived. No scientist has made any predictions about a 6th human extinction event being imminent and won't. However, scientists are closely monitoring the continuing rise of greenhouse gases, glacial melts, rise of sea levels, weather patterns, rainfall, deforestation, land desertification, degradation of aquifers, and NO scientist is saying everything is going to be just fine.....

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#14305 Aug 28, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you even talking when you haven't produced even a drop of evidence for the god of your mental illness?
Why are you still posting inane garbage instead of answering the question I ask you?

Explain how humans crawled out of their caves 12,000 years ago and then jumped from the Stone Age to the Space Age in only 300 generations?

Still waiting for your answer, bubba.....

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#14306 Aug 28, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you still posting inane garbage instead of answering the question I ask you?
Explain how humans crawled out of their caves 12,000 years ago and then jumped from the Stone Age to the Space Age in only 300 generations?
Still waiting for your answer, bubba.....
Explain how they did it in your version with only 6'000 years.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14307 Aug 28, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you still posting inane garbage instead of answering the question I ask you?
Explain how humans crawled out of their caves 12,000 years ago and then jumped from the Stone Age to the Space Age in only 300 generations?
Still waiting for your answer, bubba.....
I've never even heard of any kind of mystery surrounding what you have turned into your very own '$64000 dollar question'. It's not even a valid question. The first tool use dates back 2.5 million years. You should be asking 'how did we progress from crude stone tools to the Space Age in 2.5 million years'. Still a remarkable achievement and one that is very well documented. 12000 years ago, Humans were still involved in migrating around the globe. Why don't you get us all off the edge of our seats and lay out what you think you got? It's pretty clear that you godbots have to have had something 'special' happen '300 generations' ago to fit in with your mythology. So come on ... spit it out. What are ya? Chicken!?!

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14308 Aug 28, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Ugh, uh. Not unless, one of it's major components is bacon.
The discovery of Bacon was clearly a pivotal point in Human development. I know it changed my life.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14309 Aug 28, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
There's no proof for any hypothesis regarding the origins of humans, scientific or religious. Nobody knows.
At this point in human history, I think the question of whether or not humans appeared on Earth "all of a sudden" is less important than the very real possibility that humans may soon disappear from the earth "all of a sudden".
No, i don't see humans surviving forever.
Science says the Earth's diverse plant and animal species are going extinct at alarming, unprecedented rates due to human activities. Science says the human species has already experienced five near extinction events in the past that only a few hundred or thousanAd humans survived. No scientist has made any predictions about a 6th human extinction event being imminent and won't. However, scientists are closely monitoring the continuing rise of greenhouse gases, glacial melts, rise of sea levels, weather patterns, rainfall, deforestation, land desertification, degradation of aquifers, and NO scientist is saying everything is going to be just fine.....
What?!?

Wow, Zit! What a frighteningly ignorant and unenlightened thing to say. That there are Human Beings on the planet from supposedly advanced civilizations who are still this ignorant of the facts is very sad. I am sorry for you. Take comfort in the knowledge that you would make a great Poster Child for the 'Too Much Religion is a Bad Thing' movement.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#14310 Aug 28, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Evolution says even if some individual members of a species population already possess traits that will enable them to survive environmental change, unless there are enough of those individual members which survive, thrive and reproduce in viable numbers, the species will die out and go extinct like millions of other species have.
The length of time designated for a “generation” is different for every science. Geneticists generally use 29 years for female line generations and 34 years for male line generations. Anthropologists and sociologists have been using a 40 year generation model for about 100 years because the evidence of the archaeological record indicates that all human cultures/societies everywhere on the globe have been adopting new paradigms and reinventing themselves, their religions, world views, etc, about every 40 years for the last 12,000.
Part 1

Duh!

Part 2

That's why our calendars aren't counted from 'number of generations since Noah built the arc' or whatever. It's very imprecise. Why would you even introduce such terminology into what is ostensibly a 'scientific' discussion? It's like your question 'what happened 300 generations ago that took us from the Stone Age to the Space Age?'... nothing. Business as usual. We survived another day and kept climbing the same old ladder we been on for millions of years.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#14311 Aug 28, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
The discovery of Bacon was clearly a pivotal point in Human development. I know it changed my life.
Might be what really happened to the dinosaurs and unicorns .... bacon. Yum !
LCNlin

United States

#14312 Aug 28, 2013
Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish.

Albert Einstein
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#14313 Aug 28, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
01. There's no proof for any hypothesis regarding the origins of humans, scientific or religious. Nobody knows.

02. At this point in human history, I think the question of whether or not humans appeared on Earth "all of a sudden" is less important than the very real possibility that humans may soon disappear from the earth "all of a sudden".

03. No, i don't see humans surviving forever.

04. Science says the Earth's diverse plant and animal species are going extinct at alarming, unprecedented rates due to human activities. Science says the human species has already experienced five near extinction events in .....
Ans.

01. I am happy to say that you say there is NO PROOF regarding origin of humans. The TOS zealots would be fuming at your "stupid attitude"!!

02. The beginning and end of humans shall be in the same way! They appeared 'all of a sudden" and they shall be gone 'All of a sudden"…. And gathered to give "accounts of their lives" to their Creator.

03. Yes humans and life on this earth shall not survive for ever….their end is coming soon, may be "sooner" than any scientist can "predict"

04. Scientists can gather whatever data they can get…. But they should not be in "Predicting business".

Not after so many "Howlers" they have made in pass.

In 1800 s they "predicted" that Britain has coal only for a few decades!!

In 1980 s they "predicted" that Saudi Arabia has oil only for 25-30 years!!

Almost every "prediction": of these scientists has been proven wrong.

And why should they only predict "negative" things, why not any thing positive?
Dak-Original

London, UK

#14314 Aug 29, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
There's no proof for any hypothesis regarding the origins of humans, scientific or religious. Nobody knows.
At this point in human history, I think the question of whether or not humans appeared on Earth "all of a sudden" is less important than the very real possibility that humans may soon disappear from the earth "all of a sudden".
No, i don't see humans surviving forever.
Science says the Earth's diverse plant and animal species are going extinct at alarming, unprecedented rates due to human activities. Science says the human species has already experienced five near extinction events in the past that only a few hundred or thousanAd humans survived. No scientist has made any predictions about a 6th human extinction event being imminent and won't. However, scientists are closely monitoring the continuing rise of greenhouse gases, glacial melts, rise of sea levels, weather patterns, rainfall, deforestation, land desertification, degradation of aquifers, and NO scientist is saying everything is going to be just fine.....
No more hypothesis about life on earth as all life evolved and Homo Sapiens are no exception. 2003 Genome Project is the last nail on creationist fatuous claim that human life appeared all of a sudden. Now pull blanket over your and think about your belief with a "poetic license" and stop the lot here laughing at your expense. NB: Your "bah bah bah" here does not say much about your mind!
Dak-Original

London, UK

#14315 Aug 29, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
There's no proof for any hypothesis regarding the origins of humans, scientific or religious. Nobody knows.
At this point in human history, I think the question of whether or not humans appeared on Earth "all of a sudden" is less important than the very real possibility that humans may soon disappear from the earth "all of a sudden".
No, i don't see humans surviving forever.
Science says the Earth's diverse plant and animal species are going extinct at alarming, unprecedented rates due to human activities. Science says the human species has already experienced five near extinction events in the past that only a few hundred or thousanAd humans survived. No scientist has made any predictions about a 6th human extinction event being imminent and won't. However, scientists are closely monitoring the continuing rise of greenhouse gases, glacial melts, rise of sea levels, weather patterns, rainfall, deforestation, land desertification, degradation of aquifers, and NO scientist is saying everything is going to be just fine.....
As regards specis going extinct, it is not novel thing but this time it is due to one species: Homo Sapiens. MUQ thinks population control is wrong as each one born has "two hands and two legs" to survive. MUQ should be sent to rubbish tips where poor lot use those limbs to survive.
Population control is a must as humans are reducing beautiful diversity of the earth at an alarming rate.

I always give a disapproving look when I see a family of more than two!

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