Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

There are 14735 comments on the News24 story from Aug 27, 2012, titled Why Atheism Will Replace Religion. In it, News24 reports that:

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

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Thinking

Royston, UK

#13791 Jul 29, 2013
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ezdzit wrote:
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If it exists, if it has its own separate reality and isn't just in your head....prove it, bubba.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#13792 Jul 29, 2013
Your taqiyya is noted, blubber.
ezdzit wrote:
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I was raised in the Catholic religion, became an atheist, had a near death experience during which I was instantly healed from a terminal disease by an entity I choose to call God. I've been a big fan of His ever since. And, no, I'm not a member of any religion. God, as I understand Him, is omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent spirit and He is in every particle of everything in the universe,.like the Higgs field....
Dak-Original

Slough, UK

#13793 Jul 29, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
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Separation of church and state? I totally agree. Religion mixed with government is and always has been a recipe for disaster regardless of the religion, including atheism.
Currently, it is muslim nations who need to realise that politics is about each citizen and , therefore, it is imperative to tell the plebs that religion or religious laws have no place in governance. Catholic nations reluctantly have accepted the fact in the past 20 years or so.
Dak-Original

Slough, UK

#13794 Jul 29, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
I have no doubt whatsoever you learned your conception of God from dogma taught by whatever Christian sect you followed. That's what most people do. And what, most people don't know and never learn is Jesus was not a Christian and neither he nor any of his followers were involved in establishing the Christian religion or any of its false teachings. In my opinion, few of the hundreds/thousands of different Christian sects that exist today even understand let alone follow or teach what Jesus or any of the Prophets taught about God, the world, life or anything else.
BTW my conception of God didn't come from "Christianity" or any other man made religion. Your knee jerk assumption that it did was what I call extremely ignorant. Discovering the religion you trusted gave you false teachings is the first step in the path to enlightenment. Adopting atheism and using it as a process to purge yourself of all those false teachings can be healthy and productive, but adopting atheism permanently as your new religion is just as lazy and ignorant as remaining a "Christian".
ALL religions are products of human mind!
Dak-Original

Slough, UK

#13795 Jul 29, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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By definition I have to label myself an atheist because I don't believe in a deity. Since I don't claim to know for certain that there isn't a "god" then I've been told I am agnostic. I simply, really choose not to label myself at all.
Good post!
Dak-Original

Slough, UK

#13796 Jul 29, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
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I was raised in the Catholic religion, became an atheist, had a near death experience during which I was instantly healed from a terminal disease by an entity I choose to call God. I've been a big fan of His ever since. And, no, I'm not a member of any religion. God, as I understand Him, is omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent spirit and He is in every particle of everything in the universe,.like the Higgs field....
What? ezdzit posted items "defending" Islam here! God a "He"! Well then ezdzit is a muslim! BY a lie like that one only watres one's time here!
Dak-Original

Slough, UK

#13797 Jul 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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This is very interesting story. Yes the "entity" who saved you was the same who created you.
He is all those qualities you mentioned and in addition being Merciful, Loving and meeting most needs of things He created. He has made systems that protect us, without we being aware of.
But most humans are very ungrateful to Him, they enjoy all His gifts and do not thank Him, either they thank some one else or to no one.
It is very good that you got a glimpse of God' mercy from your "near death" experience.
Have a nice and long life, my dear brother.
God a "he" only because "the prophet" was a male!
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#13798 Jul 29, 2013
Dak-Original wrote:
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God a "he" only because "the prophet" was a male!
Thats right. Sexism is ingrained in the theist mindset.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#13799 Jul 29, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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By definition I have to label myself an atheist because I don't believe in a deity. Since I don't claim to know for certain that there isn't a "god" then I've been told I am agnostic. I simply, really choose not to label myself at all.
Applying labels, categorizing, organizing, stacking stuff up in neat little piles ... we can't seem to help ourselves. Part of what makes us good scientists. There are other inborn aspects that makes us good godbots. Human Nature is probably the least categorical thing on the planet. Shrug off all labels ... they're too small to write your story upon.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#13800 Jul 29, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
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I was raised in the Catholic religion, became an atheist, had a near death experience during which I was instantly healed from a terminal disease by an entity I choose to call God. I've been a big fan of His ever since. And, no, I'm not a member of any religion. God, as I understand Him, is omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent spirit and He is in every particle of everything in the universe,.like the Higgs field....
Well ... that certainly explains a lot! I admire your courage in finally revealing something of yourself. I'm sure you realize that what we have here is an 'anecdote' that cannot be admitted as evidence. The entity that you "choose to call God" sounds a lot like ... well, God ... leaving us with a not particularly creative anecdote.

I think we are all enjoying a 'near death experience' simply by being alive. We are, after all, just a few heartbeats and a handful of breaths away from 'meeting our maker'. It's not really that amazing that our starved brains manufacture illusions during these times of ultimate stress. What is amazing is that people will try to assign meaning to whatever fading dreams they may have had while in that state.

Now, being "instantly healed from a terminal disease" is somewhat more problematic. There are 'spontaneous remissions' and other perfectly prosaic precedents but, I'm sure you have already considered those. Our bodies own defenses, made quite formidable over millions of years of evolution, are daily 'healing themselves from terminal diseases'. People don't really die from HIV, for instance, the virus compromises the immune system and it's victims succumb to opportunistic infection.

This stuff, of course, all takes time. Which, it is interesting to point out, you don't believe exists. "Instantly healed" does scream MIRACLE!! which suggests you have had the attention of a "omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent spirit" for an 'instant' of time. Many people would give an arm and a leg for even a micro-second of Supreme Being time, so I would say this makes you rather 'special'. Feeling 'special' is a component of the egotistical aspect of the Human Psyche.

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that you are particularly and peculiarly 'Human'. Congratulations.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#13801 Jul 29, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
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If it exists, if it has its own separate reality and isn't just in your head....prove it, bubba.
Hmmmm ... a "separate reality". You're not a Castaneda fan are you? I was once. Between that and my religious indoctrination, my brain is already 'pre-loaded' with all kinds of mystical mumbo-jumbo imagery I'm sure it'll dredge up should me and sanity ever decide to part company. Like during a 'near death experience' for instance. Hell ... I used to believe in UFO's, Nessie and Big Foot. At some point I returned to the 'real' reality. Really kinda sucks. I can see the attraction of being 'blissed out' all the time. It'd be nice, like drifting in de Nile all day long.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#13802 Jul 29, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
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I was raised in the Catholic religion, became an atheist, had a near death experience during which I was instantly healed from a terminal disease by an entity I choose to call God. I've been a big fan of His ever since. And, no, I'm not a member of any religion. God, as I understand Him, is omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent spirit and He is in every particle of everything in the universe,.like the Higgs field....
I see. You suffered brain damage during your NDE. Sorry to hear that. Condolences!

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#13803 Jul 29, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
This time thing is being discussed on another thread, and I'm not educated in it at all except for what I've heard, and what I googled earlier, but it seems as though this time problem doesn't have a clear answer. I don't understand the importance of this topic. Can someone please explain this to me.
Godbots like to fixate upon subjects Science is still groping towards understanding. They think (hope) their god is hiding in these dimly lit places. There's not many of these 'dim places' left. It's one of the reasons they like 'Armageddon' so much. The World needs to end before all the curtains are thrown open and the pure light of reason illuminates everything. They'll find their most cherished concepts are really just dust bunnies hiding under the bed.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#13804 Jul 29, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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I see. You suffered brain damage during your NDE. Sorry to hear that. Condolences!
My, my ... don't you have a way of summing things up!!

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#13805 Jul 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
This is very interesting story. Yes the "entity" who saved you was the same who created you.
He is all those qualities you mentioned and in addition being Merciful, Loving and meeting most needs of things He created. He has made systems that protect us, without we being aware of.
But most humans are very ungrateful to Him, they enjoy all His gifts and do not thank Him, either they thank some one else or to no one.
It is very good that you got a glimpse of God' mercy from your "near death" experience.
Have a nice and long life, my dear brother.
Yeah. Right when my 'faith' was starting to falter, along comes an inspiring story like this one. Golly, I feel good!
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#13806 Jul 29, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>..I used to believe in UFO's, Nessie and Big Foot. At some point I returned to the 'real' reality...
I think many of us here have had similar irrational experiences/ beliefs, not just Christianity.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#13807 Jul 29, 2013
spudgun wrote:
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I think many of us here have had similar irrational experiences/ beliefs, not just Christianity.
We are all 'seekers'. Pity we can't just pat each other on the back and go somewhere for a beer.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#13809 Jul 29, 2013
RHill wrote:
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My, my ... don't you have a way of summing things up!!
Simpler is better. Especially for us simple minded folk.:-P
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#13810 Jul 29, 2013
RHill wrote:
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We are all 'seekers'. Pity we can't just pat each other on the back and go somewhere for a beer.
Sounds good to me. Seek (beer) and you shall find.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#13811 Jul 29, 2013
spudgun wrote:
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Sounds good to me. Seek (beer) and you shall find.
Beer ... it's not just for Breakfast anymore!

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