Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: News24

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.
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Really???
A few of them a good at apologetics, which does require some brainpower, albeit talent wasted.

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<quoted text>A few of them a good at apologetics, which does require some brainpower, albeit talent wasted.
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Brit Expat wrote:
<quoted text>Really???
Religion discribed by a very intelligent human being!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Yes! Keep researching.

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<quoted text>I would think if you believe in the supernatural BS of satan you would also need to believe in a deity to oppose. I've never really spoken to a devil worshiper that didn't just want the noteriety of being different. Others may disagree.

One guy professed to be a satanis but I highly suspected that he and his spouse were into the wife swapping parties....why you need satan to attend an orgy I don't know.
No, Laveys satanist are considered atheists.
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Yes! Keep researching.
I have been for all of my 82 years.

All religous books are man written, what else? All to do with control of the brainwashed/ignorant. In modern palance its called politics. How easily the human ape is led.

But I do agree the controllers of religion have intelligence, its thier living afterall.

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Brit Expat wrote:
<quoted text>I have been for all of my 82 years.

All religous books are man written, what else? All to do with control of the brainwashed/ignorant. In modern palance its called politics. How easily the human ape is led.

But I do agree the controllers of religion have intelligence, its thier living afterall.
Politics is for both believers and none believers. Brainwashed is your opinion but that is also your freedom to believe.

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01. So according to you, Atheists are "united in denial"!! What sort of "negative association" is this?
How can any society work on "Negative thoughts"? They have to have some thing "positive" to believe in? Should they not?
Forget about what Some Christians believe in or not believe in.
Let us talk about Atheists.
So what is your "belief" in what happened to Lanza and his victims after death?
Were they became equal of was their any difference in them?
And WHY more people should not follow the example of Adam Lanza?
So So what is your "belief" in what happened to the 9/11 pilots and their victims after death?
Were the pilots rewarded with 72 virgins and eternal bliss? Are the victims being tormented as we type? Or were the people who had accepted Jesus at one point in time in heaven, even if they flew a plane into the WTC? And all those who didn't accept Jesus in hell now, even if they died trying to rescue people from the burning towers?

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I have asked Muq this exact question several times before and he runs like hell from it or mutters the something about it's up to Allah what happens cop out.
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So So what is your "belief" in what happened to the 9/11 pilots and their victims after death?
Were the pilots rewarded with 72 virgins and eternal bliss? Are the victims being tormented as we type? Or were the people who had accepted Jesus at one point in time in heaven, even if they flew a plane into the WTC? And all those who didn't accept Jesus in hell now, even if they died trying to rescue people from the burning towers?

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No, Laveys satanist are considered atheists.
I shall have to read up on Lavey then. I want to know whether the satanists consider themselves atheists or if this is an opinion from outside the group.
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So So what is your "belief" in what happened to the 9/11 pilots and their victims after death?
Were the pilots rewarded with 72 virgins and eternal bliss? Are the victims being tormented as we type? Or were the people who had accepted Jesus at one point in time in heaven, even if they flew a plane into the WTC? And all those who didn't accept Jesus in hell now, even if they died trying to rescue people from the burning towers?
First answer my question about Adam Lanza and his 20 victims?

We will have a "complete discussion" about 9/11 plotters later on?

I never knew you people are so shallow in your reasoning.!!
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About Jospehus and Adam Lanza:

Let it be on record that no one, on these Atheist dominated threads, has come forward with any serious post to answer my simple and straight questions.

There is no shortage of posts hurling insults at me and my religion and saying so many things and questioning WHY I am so much interested in Josphus and Adam Lanza.

What I enjoyed was that these people were put on the dock for the first time in their lives on these threads to answer some questions.

Earlier it was "Their Prerogative" to ask questions and demand answers and then snub their noses and say "The reply does not mean their strict criterion of reason and logic and similar things.

But when they are asked to give answers to simple questions, their own response is worse than what they accuse others of.

Let me summarize salient points of their responses in this post and leave readers to make their own judgment:

A. Why I am interested in Existence of Josephus:

This question has been asked many times, that why I am interested in existence of Josephus, a name many persons would have heard for the first time in their lives.

I am interested because his name figures in proving the "historical existence" of Jesus Christ. Many Christians believe that Josephus in his book accepted the existence of Jesus Christ.

While most Atheists claim that Josephus never wrote about Jesus, the passage was a forgery which some Christian Scribe "inserted" into the book of Josephus.

A heated debate is going on since many decades about this issue and a vast amount of data is available.

It seems that for Christians to prove existence of Jesus Christ, needs the "crutches" of Josephus an obscure and not very well known Jewish Historian.

But what about Josephus himself? How do we know if he really existed at all? Is Josephus was an imaginary personality, how does in matter what he wrote or what he did not write.

That is why I am interested in Josephus and asked our readers to bring their proofs about his existence.

B. A look at the "Proofs":

When prompted repeatedly, some people came forward with their so called proofs;

1. Some one said that people honored him and even erected his statue in the city center: Is that really a proof? Who has seen this statue and is the existence of any statue a "proof" that the person really existed?

There are so many statues of fictitious persons in almost every country of the world, that does not prove that they really existed.

2. We have his books with us: Does any one has "original manuscript" of any book which Josephus wrote? Have we any "signed and stamped and certified" copy of his books?

If some one copied or translated his book into another language, do we know who did it and how authentic was his translation?

3. Then someone said that some Muslim Scholars have also quoted from Josephus so that shows that Muslims also believe in his existence.

This is the weakest arguments of all!! Why should the opinions of Muslim Scholars matter for the Christians? And no Muslim Scholar confirms if Josephus existed really or not. They used his name and quote on the basis of what is available to them.

4. Other Historians have also quoted from the books of Josephus:

This could be one of the strongest arguments, if we knew that these historians were "contemporary" of Josephus and that they were themselves "existed" really!!

What I am saying is that when the religious people use these arguments and try to prove the existence of Jesus or Moses or any past prophets…. These Atheists just laugh at these proofs and say they are not enough.

But it comes to themselves to prove Historical Existence of someone, they use the same tactics and same criterion.

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On the Issue of Adam Lanza:

Let it be on record that I asked all these Atheists to tell me if Adam Lanza and his victims met the same end.

What difference death made in their status and why more people should not follow the example of Lanza?

So far, no one has come forward of any reply on this issue either.

They have used diversionary actions to turn the debate into other directions.

Why they can't answer a simple question like this, I am unable to understand.

They should speak out what their Atheism says on such "real life situations".

They have made enough fun of religious people already, now it is their turn to get some flak!!

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We all know you are uneducated you don't have to keep telling us.

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Alrighty then you got to make a jackass out of yourself as usual. Now do you think Muslim suicide bombers go to heaven yes or no?

Also if you love the Quran so much why won't you speak about the hoy she camel of Allah?
MUQ wrote:
On the Issue of Adam Lanza:
Let it be on record that I asked all these Atheists to tell me if Adam Lanza and his victims met the same end.
What difference death made in their status and why more people should not follow the example of Lanza?
So far, no one has come forward of any reply on this issue either.
They have used diversionary actions to turn the debate into other directions.
Why they can't answer a simple question like this, I am unable to understand.
They should speak out what their Atheism says on such "real life situations".
They have made enough fun of religious people already, now it is their turn to get some flak!!
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More muslim special ham.
MUQ wrote:
About Jospehus and Adam Lanza:
Let it be on record that no one, on these Atheist dominated threads, has come forward with any serious post to answer my simple and straight questions.
There is no shortage of posts hurling insults at me and my religion and saying so many things and questioning WHY I am so much interested in Josphus and Adam Lanza.
What I enjoyed was that these people were put on the dock for the first time in their lives on these threads to answer some questions.
Earlier it was "Their Prerogative" to ask questions and demand answers and then snub their noses and say "The reply does not mean their strict criterion of reason and logic and similar things.
But when they are asked to give answers to simple questions, their own response is worse than what they accuse others of.
Let me summarize salient points of their responses in this post and leave readers to make their own judgment:
A. Why I am interested in Existence of Josephus:
This question has been asked many times, that why I am interested in existence of Josephus, a name many persons would have heard for the first time in their lives.
I am interested because his name figures in proving the "historical existence" of Jesus Christ. Many Christians believe that Josephus in his book accepted the existence of Jesus Christ.
While most Atheists claim that Josephus never wrote about Jesus, the passage was a forgery which some Christian Scribe "inserted" into the book of Josephus.
A heated debate is going on since many decades about this issue and a vast amount of data is available.
It seems that for Christians to prove existence of Jesus Christ, needs the "crutches" of Josephus an obscure and not very well known Jewish Historian.
But what about Josephus himself? How do we know if he really existed at all? Is Josephus was an imaginary personality, how does in matter what he wrote or what he did not write.
That is why I am interested in Josephus and asked our readers to bring their proofs about his existence.
B. A look at the "Proofs":
When prompted repeatedly, some people came forward with their so called proofs;
1. Some one said that people honored him and even erected his statue in the city center: Is that really a proof? Who has seen this statue and is the existence of any statue a "proof" that the person really existed?
There are so many statues of fictitious persons in almost every country of the world, that does not prove that they really existed.
2. We have his books with us: Does any one has "original manuscript" of any book which Josephus wrote? Have we any "signed and stamped and certified" copy of his books?
If some one copied or translated his book into another language, do we know who did it and how authentic was his translation?
3. Then someone said that some Muslim Scholars have also quoted from Josephus so that shows that Muslims also believe in his existence.
This is the weakest arguments of all!! Why should the opinions of Muslim Scholars matter for the Christians? And no Muslim Scholar confirms if Josephus existed really or not. They used his name and quote on the basis of what is available to them.
4. Other Historians have also quoted from the books of Josephus:
This could be one of the strongest arguments, if we knew that these historians were "contemporary" of Josephus and that they were themselves "existed" really!!
What I am saying is that when the religious people use these arguments and try to prove the existence of Jesus or Moses or any past prophets…. These Atheists just laugh at these proofs and say they are not enough.
But it comes to themselves to prove Historical Existence of someone, they use the same tactics and same criterion.

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Really, that is not insult, it is not retort, it is meaningless noise. Maybe if you had an education to accompany your Notre Dame sheepskins, you might begin to understand that.

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Yes, lack of education can be a barrier to understanding. Do you think otherwise?

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<quoted text>Really, that is not insult, it is not retort, it is meaningless noise. Maybe if you had an education to accompany your Notre Dame sheepskins, you might begin to understand that.
The great Personified (whatever) has spoken once again. The years of knowledge and Alzheimer's has finally caught up with you. You are the prime example of an educational, attitudinal, and social barriers. Just to help you out, there's a sale on caskets for Christmas. Get it for 1/2 off.

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<quoted text>Yes, lack of education can be a barrier to understanding. Do you think otherwise?
That's not what it means but I guess that is why I understand about lack of education.

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