Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: News24

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

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Let's check it out.
"If a person doesn’t think there is a God to be accountable to, then—then what’s the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges? That’s how I thought anyway.
Jeffrey Dahmer [An interview with Stone Phillips, Dateline NBC, Nov. 29, 1994].
Sounds like one of yours, a human flesh eating ass bot.
But like Mao and Pol Pot, Dahmer wasn't motivated by atheism and wouldn't have been stopped by religous beliefs. He was a psychopath and a serial killer. We are all products of our nature and nurture and religion is no help at all.

Dahmer is a typical atheist like Hitler was a typical Catholic.
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Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Well he did make it super easy to prove him real, he left behind two simple formulas, but neither work. So maybe it wasn't a god who left these instructions, and if so we can consider the rest of the book lies too. Now can't we?
He said anything you ask in his name, there are no qualifiers, absolutely anything at all. We all know that one doesn't work, but the religitards instead of just taking their god's word for it, all go to looking for the qualifier, which would show that it was they who failed, and not the god. The god fails to deliver, always.
Then we can test his other prayer instructions, by showing a little faith and move a mountain, just the tiniest smidgeon. Ha, ha, we all know that again, the religitard can be convinced that they have no faith, but watch a little child pray, and you will witness the most pure faith ever. The child believes and the child prays, and even the child receives no answered prayer. The bible god never said that he would have the prayers answered by anyone but himself. In time the child will no longer believe. Like you, you don't beleive , none of you do.
If you actually believed, you would live as the buybull instructs you to. When was the last time you stoned to death, and sinner who dared to wear mixed fibers?
So prove your locomotive*, move me a mountain.
*big iron chariot, there ain't no way Jehovah would show up, that god is under the porch pissing himself. LOL!
I read in scripture that I didn't have to stone sinners anymore.

Eph 2:15, "The law of the commandments expressed in decrees he has made void

2 Cor 5:17, "If then any man is in Christ, he is a new creature: the former things have passed away; behold, they are made new!"

Cancel the rock order.

Further over two billion followers is hardly a story of failure. What has been a failure is nations promoting atheism as government policy. There has never been a nation that promoted state atheism that was beneficial to society, not one, ziltch, zero. It is the ultimate role model for human failure which is why the United Nations should outlaw state atheism as being detrimental to the health of all living things.
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If before hand he cried out. Jesus this is for you oh God, he would be a saint.
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But he didn't.

Neither did this role model of atheism.

Hung in 1930 for killing a Leavenworth prison guard, here’s what serial killer Carl Panzram had to say about his previous criminal deeds:

"In my lifetime I have murdered 21 human beings, I have committed thousands of burglaries, robberies, larcenies, arsons and last but not least I have committed sodomy on more than 1,000 male human beings.For all of these things I am not the least bit sorry. I have no conscience so that does not worry me.I DON"T BELIEVE IN MAN, GOD, OR DEVIL I hate the whole damned human race including myself.’

Panzram's autobiography, begun in 1928 and published in book form in 1970.

Let's see,if he doesn't believe in God that would make him an atheist, right?
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EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>But like Mao and Pol Pot, Dahmer wasn't motivated by atheism and wouldn't have been stopped by religous beliefs. He was a psychopath and a serial killer. We are all products of our nature and nurture and religion is no help at all.
Dahmer is a typical atheist like Hitler was a typical Catholic.


Of course he was since he believed God didn't exist and he would not have to answer for his actions.

Atheist leaders are certainly motivated by their ideology.

"The World has never before known a godlessness as organized, militarized and tenaciously malevolent as that preached by Marxism. Within the philosophical system of Marx and Lenin and at the heart of their psychology, HATRED OF GOD is the principle driving force, more fundamental than all their political and economic pretensions. Militant atheism is not merely incidental or marginal to Communist policy; it is not a side effect, but the central pivot. To achieve its diabolical ends, Communism needs to control a population devoid of religious and national feeling, and this entails a destruction of faith and nationhood. Communists proclaim both of these objectives openly, and just as openly put them into practice.”

Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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...Let's see,if he doesn't believe in God that would make him an atheist, right?
Well done. Atheist..
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/atheist
That is all that atheist means.

But your post again seems to suggest that atheists are less moral than religionists?

http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.h...

A silly and pointless argument. The fact is that behavior is determined by nature and nurture, not religious beliefs or lack of any.
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EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Because, scientifically speaking, there is no more reason to believe in an afterlife than in pixies, fairies, or Allah.
One should never believe anything beyond what is supported by reason and evidence. Religion = superstition. Simple as that.
"The categorical mistake of the atheist is to assume that God is natural, and therefore within the realm of science to investigate and test. By making God an ordinary part of the natural world, and failing to find Him there, they conclude that He does not exist. But God is not and cannot be part of nature. God is the reason for nature, the explanation of why things are. He is the answer to existence, not part of existence itself."

Kenneth R. Miller, professor of biology at Brown University and the author of Finding Darwin's God: A Scientist's Search for Common Ground between God and Evolution and of Only a Theory: Evolution and the Battle for America's Soul.
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Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe he was secretly a Christain, and thought the bible god, told him to eat other peoples children.?You know how the religitards operate, they want to please their god and if the words are in the buybull one of them will act on them and do it, we hear about it when they make the news.
Apparently cannibalism was practiced on a wide scale in famines in the atheistic Soviet Union during the 1920s. I guess when you repeatedly tell people they are just another animal among animals, they believe you and have no qualms in cooking their neighbor at 450 degrees for four hours when the hunger pangs kick in.
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<quoted text>Well done. Atheist..
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/atheist
That is all that atheist means.
But your post again seems to suggest that atheists are less moral than religionists?
http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.h...
A silly and pointless argument. The fact is that behavior is determined by nature and nurture, not religious beliefs or lack of any.
Of course there are very moral atheists. Just using the argument to counter the attacks on Christian morality. You know the saying about living in a glass house.
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Of course there are very moral atheists. Just using the argument to counter the attacks on Christian morality. You know the saying about living in a glass house.
Now all we have to correct is prejudice against atheism and protect principles like 'freedom of and from religion' and 'Separation of Church and State'. Everyone should be able to agree on that.

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Lots of things happen when we die and all scientifically proven how the body shuts down, the last thing experienced the whole works.

So don't place your superstitious beliefs and your child raping prophet on par with modern science. You yourself have shown what a bloodthirsty animal he is. Why do you worship an animal Muq?

Why won't you discuss Allah's holy she camel that is spoken of in the Quran?
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So do you KNOW what happens once you die?
You only GUESS that NOTHING happens when you die?
Your guess work is as good as mine?
Why should you say "NOTHING Happens" is "More Scientific" than what we say?
Scientifically we are both in the same boat!!
I wonder why Scientists claim your view is "More Scintific"?

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But Jephtha is a hero and saint in your religion for sacrificing his daughter. I am sure he called out to God as he killed her.

Now this person you spammed about you call a role model for atheists? You will need to show proof that atheists looked up to this guy and I have yet to see a word about him calling himself an atheist so the point is moot. As usual.

Wow you have to go back 83 years to dig up this non atheist for your off topic spam. Lmfao!

Jephtha a hero this chump from 83 years ago not looked up to nor even heard of by 99.999999% of atheists. Do show where atheists celebrate him or be factually crushed as usual. We will be waiting or shall we just go ahead and accept your defeat?
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But he didn't.
Neither did this role model of atheism.

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China??? LOL
"In truth, if China was the entire world, I could undoubtedly call myself the principal mathematician and philosopher of nature, because it is ridiculously and astonishingly little what they know; they are preoccupied with moral philosophy, and with elegance of discourse, or to say more properly, of style."
Jesuit Matteo Ricci.(1595)
"About the learned among the Chinese, let me say that this: the Chinese have no science at all; one may say that only mathematics is cultivated, and the little they know of it is without foundation.....They just manage to predict eclipses and in that they make many mistakes. All are addicted to the art of divination, which is most unreliable and also completely false. Physics and metaphysics, including logic, is unknown among them....Their literature consists wholly in beautiful and stylish compositions all of which correspond to our humanities and rhetoric."
Jesuit Matteo Ricci.(1597)
Concerning those who predicted eclipses:
"they know nothing more than to make computations, without any insight into the rules, and when the result does not come out right, all they say is that they kept to the rules of their forebears."
Jesuit Matteo Ricci.(1605)
"Probably no European name of past centuries is so well known in China as that of Li-ma-teu (Ricci Matteo)."
The Encyclopedia Britannica
"From about 1600 until the suppression in 1773, Jesuits were practically the sole source of Chinese knowledge about Western astronomy, geometry and trigonometry. Appointments in the Astronomical Bureau provided the Jesuits with access to the ruling elite, whose conversion was their main object. Mathematical and astronomical treatises demonstrated high learning and proved that the missionaries were civilized and socially acceptable. While trigonometry became an analytic science in Europe, in the Orient it remained primitive until the Jesuits came.
http://www.faculty.fairfield.edu/jmac/sj/scie...
You've been busted.
Busted?

Far from it.

China was well into decline by the dates you mention. Their period of science and invention had been and gone.

After nearly 1400 years of Christianity, the civilization of Western Europe was a squalid place with constant warfare between its quarrelling kingdoms. Western Europe with all its Christians was lagging behind the civilizations of China and the Ottoman Turks. This is what 1400 years of Christianity had done for Western Europe.

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downhill246 wrote:
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You are confused .We have the law of biogenesis, life from life, so it is "proven" .
It is life created randomly from non living matter that is naturalism's attempt at magic and many scientists agree that you will never pull the rabbit out of the hat.
Millions, perhaps billions of years of chemical reactions leading to life is still a more likely explanation than magic.

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Now to your Muslim world.
When Arabs and Islam swept through the Middle East in 630 A.D., they encountered 600 years of Assyrian Christian civilization, with a rich heritage, a highly developed culture, and advanced learning institutions. It is this civilization that became the foundation of the Arab civilization.
http://www.ninevehsoft.com/fiorina.htm
The more one studies the history of "Islamic civilization," the less impressive do its claims appear.
For a few centuries the Islamic world served as a conduit (of Chinese papermaking, of Hindu numbers and algebra, of Greek philosophy rendered first into Syriac, then into Arabic, often by Christian or Jewish translators). There were some very minor achievements and a handful of figures, their names repeated over and over and over: Al-Rhazi, Averroes, Avicenna, Al-Farabi, and a dozen others -- compared to the tens of thousands of similar figures in the Western world, not to mention those in the civilizations of China, or those unknown creators of Inca or Mayan civilization..........
On the civilizational resume of Islam, there is roughly a thousand-year blank.
1000-2000 A.D. Painted Mughal miniatures, built some mosques in Constantinople, quarried the stone from tens of thousands of destroyed churches and Hindu temples for Muslim structures." Really, no serious science for the past thousand years, no music, no sculpture, no paintings save for some un-Islamic Indo-Persian miniatures, no philosophy outside the limits of an 8th-century text composed in part of pagan Arab lore, and stories from both the Hebrew and Christian texts, imperfectly recalled-- well, that just won't do. Islam just doesn't get the job as Permanent Solution for All Mankind.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archive...
From your link...

"Assyrians continued living in their homeland throughout this dark age, until that momentous moment in human history, when the Lord Son of God gave himself for the salvation of mankind."

Hardly an impartial account, eh?

Yet despite all these Assyrian Christians there was still no scientific revolution.

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We were debating evolution so if you have nothing to add go away.
Sorry Sparky, you do NOT own this forum. You do NOT make the rules. Don't like it? Sit on it and spin for all I care :D

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Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Infantile name-calling and slander? Yeah that is exactly what you did to me, and I called you on it. You are a liar and an idiot.
And, "Your god will make you eat your children.", was not an attempt to slander you, unless you are claiming to have authored the buybull. And since you have said that your god has written your religion in the sky, maybe I was wrong. I thought you believed in bible Jehovah, but which ever sky monkey you are following, don't push the filth here.
Whenever you do get a clue, you will understand that a non believer and an atheist are not the same thing. The atheist is simply someone without theism. Not a theist, nothing more.
Just like you jump to false conclusions because of your fundamentalist mindset that you haven't a clue you have but is obvious to those who don't have to resort to name-calling as defense of their arguments. That's all you do is call names and think you've somehow defeated your strawmen like the one you created instead of answering the questions that crush your atheist fundamentalist belief system. And please, don't hand us the phony "
there's a difference between non-believers and atheists". I go by the dictionary definition and root of the word and not by your flimsy attempts to hide your "no God" philosophy when I show you what it really is: a failed ideology that makes its holders behave exactly like fundamentalists everywhere--ignoring any facts that counter the fundamentalist belief system and when this fails, using slander instead of reasoned debate to defend the irrationality of the atheist position that ignores science and human history.

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<quoted text>Let's check it out.

"If a person doesn’t think there is a God to be accountable to, then—then what’s the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges? That’s how I thought anyway.

Jeffrey Dahmer [An interview with Stone Phillips, Dateline NBC, Nov. 29, 1994].


Sounds like one of yours, a human flesh eating ass bot.
http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/200...

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biomystic wrote:
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Just like you jump to false conclusions because of your fundamentalist mindset that you haven't a clue you have but is obvious to those who don't have to resort to name-calling as defense of their arguments. That's all you do is call names and think you've somehow defeated your strawmen like the one you created instead of answering the questions that crush your atheist fundamentalist belief system. And please, don't hand us the phony "
there's a difference between non-believers and atheists". I go by the dictionary definition and root of the word and not by your flimsy attempts to hide your "no God" philosophy when I show you what it really is: a failed ideology that makes its holders behave exactly like fundamentalists everywhere--ignoring any facts that counter the fundamentalist belief system and when this fails, using slander instead of reasoned debate to defend the irrationality of the atheist position that ignores science and human history.
Wow, that was one hell of a word salad, but you really didn't manage to say anything. The "a" at the beginning of the word "atheist", is what causes the word "atheist" to mean "not a theist". The non believer doesn't believe, the atheist is without theism. You are lying about who you are, while you were atheist(without theism) when you were very young, it was before you learned to think for yourself. That is blatantly clear from your inability to even understand who it is you are trying to invalidate.
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When will Female Genital Mutilation be stopped in islamic communities?
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And what is reason my great guru?
Where is your "evidence" than men and ape had common ancestors?

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Thinking wrote:
When will Female Genital Mutilation be stopped in islamic communities?
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It won't be if the Muslims continue to have their way there. It's a form of subjagation and control. These peope don't belive in equal rights,nor democrcy, nor LIBERTY. They believe in dictatorship and oppression, and subjugating and killing anyone who opposes them.

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