Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

There are 14730 comments on the News24 story from Aug 27, 2012, titled Why Atheism Will Replace Religion. In it, News24 reports that:

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

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“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9432 Apr 18, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>So basically you have no idea what you are talking about.
No, you are just ignorant of reality.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9433 Apr 18, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>So your standard of proof only applies to evolution and nothing else.

I rest my case.
Yet he expects us to prove something to him that he doesn't want to believe, even if it's a fact.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#9434 Apr 18, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
It's nice that you appear to care for my well being. You can return to not reading my post.
LOL! It's the well being of people you may come in contact with that concerns me
Imhotep

Saint Petersburg, FL

#9435 Apr 18, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Haven't you read the bible? There are no ifs, ands, or buts. There is but one simple instruction. One must merely ask in his name and it shall be given unto thee.
All the flim flamming and twisting is not necessary. Just ask and it shall be done, no qualifiers.
Now now Skippy I wouldn't be talking about reading the Bible it's quite obvious you haven't

What is obvious is you have your favorite scriptures that support your view - any others are patently ignored

Once again an irreligious person must show you the error of your ways. ;)

The problem is that the gift of salvation as taught in the Bible is anything but free.

It first requires that you perform a work. That work is believing Jesus is your Savior and that only he can serve as your intermediary with God.

Of course it also means that you accept all the baggage that goes along with that.

It means you accept as truth that this "God" will punish people for the "sin" of disbelief(Mark 16:16, John 16:9, John 3:18, John 3:36, Heb 3:12, 1 John 2:22),

it requires that you worship a God who will provide infinite punishment for finite sins, and it requires that you accept a God with the behavior of a rather manipulative, power hungry, petty tyrant.

It means you must abandon your mind to save your soul.

You must confess Jesus is your Lord and worship him as such.

Salvation is exchanged for worship and it's nothing more than a holy barter system where you say the magic words and you are saved. On the surface it's cheap, easy, and painless.

It appeals to anyone who doesn't want to be burdened with thinking for themselves.

This form of holy fire insurance is nothing more than false advertising and should be treated with the same regard one would have when he opens a box of Cracker Jacks and digs out the cheap trinket that came as a "free" gift when you purchased the box it came in.
Imhotep

Saint Petersburg, FL

#9436 Apr 18, 2013
Oops post reply for WRONG PERSON

Apologies to reason personified

I blame this entirely on the devil- The devil caused it ;)

Apologies to reason personified

I haven't smoked my morning bong yet. Still working on coffee ;)

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#9437 Apr 18, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>
But I'm talking about evolution here.
No, you're not. You do a fine job of beating up the straw man version of "evolution" you base your "questions" on, but that version bears no resemblance to the actual scientific theory. I also suspect you're fully aware of that as well.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#9438 Apr 18, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, you need to go back and back up what you believe with facts. You have not seen evolution or tested anything. You can not explain evolution when we don't even have complete fossils. I've challenged you and your only reply is your dumb comments to other atheists. Now take the challenge loser and answer. Test your knowledge. If there's tons of evidence, show it to me. Lol! This is really beginning to get fun!
Sorry EW, but this has already been addressed. And your only argument so far has been "nothing is determinable so nothing is knowable". Pure nihilism. The ultimate consequence of which is that the only person in the universe that's real is you.

Which is daft.(shrug)
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#9439 Apr 18, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
Oops post reply for WRONG PERSON
Apologies to reason personified
I blame this entirely on the devil-
lol. Its funny when that happens!
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#9440 Apr 18, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
I am sure that "miracle" will be world wide news, bubba.
There are many things people believed were impossible....until somebody did it. People believed the 4 minute mile was impossible to run....until somebody did it a few years back. Now runners do it all the time and a few runners have even achieved shaving as much as 17 seconds off the 4 minutes.
Your mental construct of what is possible or impossible, real or unreal, true or not true, is just that.....a mental construct. It exists only in your mind.
Oh, I totally agree. However you may note that nothing that is possible is necessarily due to "divine power" or whatever, unless your definition of such includes the mundane.(shrug)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#9441 Apr 18, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>
But I'm talking about evolution here.
No you're not. If you were you'd have addressed the evidence with something else other than a silly nihilistic argument.
Educated What wrote:
So basically you have no idea what you are talking about.
Projection.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#9442 Apr 18, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>
Do these fools ever actually read what they post?
Looks that way. EZ clearly stated he had no evidence because it was all wiped out by the theological powers establishing Paulanity at the time. And that somehow it was atheistic propaganda.

Then accused ME of beating up a straw-man! The gaul!

>:-(
Imhotep

Saint Petersburg, FL

#9443 Apr 18, 2013
spudgun wrote:
<quoted text>
lol. Its funny when that happens!
Not only funny but embarrassing :-(

I am ultra liberal - No political affiliation or preference - i loath discrimination in any form.

I define myself is simply irreligious.

And fortunate not to have been indoctrinated during childhood by my parents.

Our Sundays were spent with family time picnics and fun and not wasted in some church yelling and bowing to imaginary beings.

PS I still declare on my longform my bogus donations to my favorite cult.

Uncle Sam IRS looks up his chart to see what it will allow For a default religious donation - and accepts the deduction if thou are not greedy!

You got to love America!

Lying for Jesus can be profitable as is evidenced by all the televangelist we see each weekend

In this small way I get 'a piece of the action ' sans the pomp and circumstance

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#9444 Apr 18, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>
You have no answer so you get angry and post to your friends.
And AGAIN: If you are going to declare evolution hopelessly flawed, you should have a better explanation that fits the evidence well (better). So far, all you've got is a lot of assertions and face flapping.

Basically, you've got nothing again.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#9445 Apr 18, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
You're still talking fairytale books
If you want history...
Like those of the Jewish writer Josephus, the works of the ancient historians Pliny, Suetonius and Tacitus do not provide proof that Jesus Christ ever existed as a "historical" character.
Pliny the Younger, Roman Official and Historian (62-113 CE)
Tacitus, Roman Politician and Historian,(c. 56-120 CE)
Suetonius, Roman Historian (c. 69-c. 122 CE)
When addressing the mythical nature of Jesus Christ, one issue repeatedly raised is the purported "evidence" of his existence to be found in the writings of Flavius Josephus, the famed Jewish general and historian who lived from about 37 to 100 CE.....

.....In the final analysis there is no evidence that the biblical character called "Jesus Christ" ever existed.....
Whose "final analysis", bubba? Yours? LOL

Fairytale books, huh? The Bible was indeed written by men and even though we now know unscrupulous “Jews” and “Christians” corrupted the original texts by inserting their own words into Genesis, Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc and the Gospels, and especially Paul’s writings and claimed these corruptions were the “word of God”, theological sleuths have isolated the majority of the corrupted texts (see Dead Sea Scrolls). There are, however, some books of the Bible which defy "rational" explanation. Genesis 1 is a good example. How could ancient men know about the Big Bang or articulate a description of the EXACT sequence of species appearance on this planet?

BTW Jesus aka Yeshua ben Yosef was NOT a “Jew”. He was indeed Yehudim, aka Palestinian Arab, but he was born into and raised in the Essene tradition and was NOT a “Jew”. The etymology of the word “Jew” indicates it wasn’t even invented until the 12th century AD. And, he was not the founder of the “Christian” religion. His followers were called Ebionites, Nazarenes, etc. and those who refused to convert to “Christianity” fled deeper into the ME or were condemned to death as heretics by the “Christian” church starting after the Council of Nicea circa 330 AD.

Most scholars consider the "Testimonium Flavianum" to be a forgery created by the Roman church. Josephus knew about the Essenes were and would never have referred to Jesus as a “Jew” or his followers as “Christians” since they’re were no “Christians” in Josephus’ time.

Discovering the lies about the "mythical" Jesus created by the early Roman church is just the first step in the search for the truth about the real Jesus, who is infinitely much more awesome and amazing than any of the silly myths fabricated about him.

Since: May 11

Gravesend, UK

#9446 Apr 18, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
Whose "final analysis", bubba? Yours? LOL
Fairytale books, huh? The Bible was indeed written by men and even though we now know unscrupulous “Jews” and “Christians” corrupted the original texts by inserting their own words into Genesis, Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc and the Gospels, and especially Paul’s writings and claimed these corruptions were the “word of God”, theological sleuths have isolated the majority of the corrupted texts (see Dead Sea Scrolls). There are, however, some books of the Bible which defy "rational" explanation. Genesis 1 is a good example. How could ancient men know about the Big Bang or articulate a description of the EXACT sequence of species appearance on this planet?
BTW Jesus aka Yeshua ben Yosef was NOT a “Jew”. He was indeed Yehudim, aka Palestinian Arab, but he was born into and raised in the Essene tradition and was NOT a “Jew”. The etymology of the word “Jew” indicates it wasn’t even invented until the 12th century AD. And, he was not the founder of the “Christian” religion. His followers were called Ebionites, Nazarenes, etc. and those who refused to convert to “Christianity” fled deeper into the ME or were condemned to death as heretics by the “Christian” church starting after the Council of Nicea circa 330 AD.
Most scholars consider the "Testimonium Flavianum" to be a forgery created by the Roman church. Josephus knew about the Essenes were and would never have referred to Jesus as a “Jew” or his followers as “Christians” since they’re were no “Christians” in Josephus’ time.
Discovering the lies about the "mythical" Jesus created by the early Roman church is just the first step in the search for the truth about the real Jesus, who is infinitely much more awesome and amazing than any of the silly myths fabricated about him.
cool story bro

...doesn`t even qualify to be considered hearsay.

“Liberty & Justice For All”

Since: Aug 11

United States of America

#9447 Apr 18, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, I totally agree. However you may note that nothing that is possible is necessarily due to "divine power" or whatever, unless your definition of such includes the mundane.(shrug)
Or perhaps what you call "divine power" is really just the operation of natural laws our ever evolving knowledge of science doesn't really comprehend yet......hmmmmm?

The medical journals are full of documented "miracle" healings, i.e. spontaneous remissions, of terminal cancers or some other deadly disease occurring for atheists, the non-religious, and the religious of all sects.

What I would call an example of "divine power" is when God overrides the operation of His own natural laws and one of the best examples of this is the inexplicably high levels of CO2 that have accumulated in our atmosphere, the highest levels in 450,000 years of earth's history according to ice core samples. We should be 100 years into a huge glaciation event, the earth should resemble a gigantic snowball. We aren't and it doesn't. Why?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#9448 Apr 18, 2013
I know right! It's like Christian fan fiction I mean wow! I almost wonder if he's a Poe putting us on. Seriously can people be that stupid? Genesis 1 has the Big Bang and the proper sequence of things? So he must be claiming we had plants before the sun?
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>cool story bro

...doesn`t even qualify to be considered hearsay.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#9449 Apr 18, 2013
People heal all the time at rapid rates outside medical norms. Our body is actually set up for this potential because of the evolutionary process. Also people can be misdiagnosed which accounts for most of these so called miraculous healings.

Again you cannot assign properties to a god until you have demonstrated a god exists.
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>Or perhaps what you call "divine power" is really just the operation of natural laws our ever evolving knowledge of science doesn't really comprehend yet......hmmmmm?

The medical journals are full of documented "miracle" healings, i.e. spontaneous remissions, of terminal cancers or some other deadly disease occurring for atheists, the non-religious, and the religious of all sects.

What I would call an example of "divine power" is when God overrides the operation of His own natural laws and one of the best examples of this is the inexplicably high levels of CO2 that have accumulated in our atmosphere, the highest levels in 450,000 years of earth's history according to ice core samples. We should be 100 years into a huge glaciation event, the earth should resemble a gigantic snowball. We aren't and it doesn't. Why?
Lincoln

United States

#9450 Apr 18, 2013
Yes :-)
Why will atheism replace religion?:-) and when by next Tuesday?
First we need to find atheists who are not in fact agnostics.

"Scratch and atheist out pops an agnostic" as the old saying goes

Since: Apr 13

Honolulu, HI

#9451 Apr 18, 2013
Religion will stay around for as long as humanity is around. Humans continue to dream so they can progress and continue to live their lives and god is another dream or a goal that humans use to live their lives regardless of the existence of god. As long as we humans continue to dream and make goals in life religion will never fade away

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