Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

There are 14665 comments on the News24 story from Aug 27, 2012, titled Why Atheism Will Replace Religion. In it, News24 reports that:

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

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KJV

United States

#9410 Apr 17, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>So you don't exist either.
I never witnessed your existence.

That makes your claims false, for they don't exist.
Something that doesn't exist can't make claims and therefore can't be false.

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

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#9411 Apr 17, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>Now you're saying man made Italy?
BAHAHAHAHA!
You're just making yourself look worse and worse.
Italy was created by evolution?

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#9412 Apr 17, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>You're the one who believes that anything you didn't witness yourself is false. By your own rule, you've proven your god to be false.
But I'm talking about evolution here.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#9413 Apr 17, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>
But I'm talking about evolution here.
If you are going to declare evolution hopelessly flawed, you should have a better explanation that fits the evidence well (better). So far, all you've got is a lot of assertions and face flapping.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#9414 Apr 17, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're saying your evidence was destroyed by the evil Christian conspiracy of the Council of Nicea nearly three centuries later?
Darn.
Do these fools ever actually read what they post?
Imhotep

United States

#9415 Apr 17, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
That's just atheist propaganda, bubba.
James aka James the Just, was indeed a contemporary of Jesus. He was Jesus' younger brother, the one who assumed leadership of Jesus' followers after the resurrection and ascension. He was also the author of the Book of James which is part of the NT cannon. Then there is also the writings of the John, the youngest Apostle. There was also another book, a compilation called the Book of the Hebrews aka Book of the Apostles. etc. which was written by Jesus' contemporaries and his first 12 followers which is discussed in writings by various early Roman Catholic theologians as well as the reasons it was banned as heretical to church dogma and every copy ordered destroyed circa 320 AD after the Council at Nicea.
You're still talking fairytale books

If you want history...

Like those of the Jewish writer Josephus, the works of the ancient historians Pliny, Suetonius and Tacitus do not provide proof that Jesus Christ ever existed as a "historical" character.

Pliny the Younger, Roman Official and Historian (62-113 CE)

Tacitus, Roman Politician and Historian,(c. 56-120 CE)

Suetonius, Roman Historian (c. 69-c. 122 CE)

When addressing the mythical nature of Jesus Christ, one issue repeatedly raised is the purported "evidence" of his existence to be found in the writings of Flavius Josephus, the famed Jewish general and historian who lived from about 37 to 100 CE.

In Josephus's Antiquities of the Jews appears the notorious passage regarding Christ called the "Testimonium Flavianum" ("TF"):

"Now, there was about this time, Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works,--a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day."

The are: No sculptures, no drawings, no markings in stone, nothing written in his own hand; and no letters, no commentaries, indeed no authentic documents written by his Jewish and Gentile contemporaries, Justice of Tiberius, Philo, Josephus, Seneca, Petronius Arbiter, Pliny the Elder, et al., to lend credence to his historicity."
In the final analysis there is no evidence that the biblical character called "Jesus Christ" ever existed.

All of these historians were born well after the alleged events.

'Hearsay' is not 'evidence' for a reason!

The nativity yarn is a concatenation of nonsense. The genealogies of Jesus, both Matthew's version and Luke's, are pious fiction. Nazareth did not exist in the 1st century AD – the area was a burial ground of rock-cut tombs.

The 12 disciples are as fictitious as their master, invented to legitimise the claims of the early churches. The original Mary was not a virgin, that idea was borrowed from pagan goddesses. The pagan world knew all about virgins getting pregnant by gods.

Scholars have known all this for more than 200 years but priestcraft is a highly profitable business and finances an industry of deceit to keep the show on the road.

"Jesus better documented than any other ancient figure"? Don't believe a word of it. Unlike the mythical Jesus, a real historical figure like Julius Caesar has a mass of mutually supporting evidence.

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

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#9416 Apr 17, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>If you are going to declare evolution hopelessly flawed, you should have a better explanation that fits the evidence well (better). So far, all you've got is a lot of assertions and face flapping.
You have no answer so you get angry and post to your friends.

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

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#9417 Apr 17, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>Do these fools ever actually read what they post?
Do you?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#9418 Apr 17, 2013
He went extinct for our sins :(
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>Was he philosoraptorjesus?

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#9419 Apr 17, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>
So why doesn't evolution predict the sex of a child? If so, when humans evolved from apes (chuckle) how did evolution decide if they were male or female?
It could care less!! Evolution 'came up with' sexual reproduction as an effective way to increase variety, weed out bad genes and what the heck ... have a little fun. It's works really well and all manner of flora and fauna use it. Of course, it "takes two to tango" so an appropriate ratio of male / female types are required. I guess you could say 'evolution predicts' that the ratio should be around 1:1.

Talk about <chuckles> ... does your wife or boyfriend use lipstick? Wanna know why?

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#9420 Apr 17, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
"If God is their creator as well, then if he wanted them to be different, he would have created them differently. "
He created them just as he wanted them to be. Who are you to tell God what he should have done?
"Also, if these people used their "free will" to do something other than what God had planned, then God can not know the future, which would mean he is not God."
God gives free will even if he does not like what you do with it. This does not mean that he will not hold you accountable for your actions.
Bull shit, either the myth planned it all, or it doesn't exist.

He would have also planned the that the bible would be a contradictory mess, just so that the very few people who were willing to taste the forbidden tree of knowledge, would also be doomed like the ten generations following each and every bastard born, including the bastard, Jesus.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#9421 Apr 17, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
So cynical....and soooooo ignorant.
Theoretically,“prayer” could work for spontaneous regeneration of body parts, especially if it was the kind of “prayer” which increased the body’s electrical energy field and directed that energy to the site of the wound on the amputee.
Dr Robert Becker wrote a book called “The Body Electric”(circa 1960’s) which disusses his research on regeneration and his successful experiments on many different animals demonstrating that it is possible to trigger spontaneous regeneration of amputated limbs, etc. by applying a low level dc electric charge to the site of the wound.
Scientific research has verified the average human body naturally produces electrical energy--100 watts of power while at rest, 300-400 watts while lightly active, and up to 2,000 watts while at the peak of exertion, like running. Most of this energy output is used for things like digesting/processing food, etc, and some gets wasted in the form of body heat.  These are averages for normal people, not for adepts of the various ancient healing arts:
“A study by Seto in Japan confirmed “a large biomagnetic field emanates from the hands of practitioners of a variety of healing and martial arts techniques, including QiGong, yoga, meditation, Zen, etc. The fields were measured with a simple magnetometer consisting of two 80,000 turn coils and a sensitive amplifier. The fields had a strength of about 10-3 gauss, which is about 1000 times stronger than the strongest human biomagnetic fields (from the heart)… about 1,000,000 times stronger than the fields produced by the brain… As in Zimmerman’s study, the biomagnetic field pulsed with a variable frequency centered around 8-10 Hz.”(Oschman, 79)
It is well documented that children under the age of 7 who have amputated their findertips can regenerate them. Regeneration scientists already know the human body does indeed have a mechanism for such “miracles” but hasn’t figured out why this mechanism stops functioning after the age of 7. Maybe that's the age when humans start losing faith and begin to become cynical....?
Haven't you read the bible? There are no ifs, ands, or buts. There is but one simple instruction. One must merely ask in his name and it shall be given unto thee.

All the flim flamming and twisting is not necessary. Just ask and it shall be done, no qualifiers.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#9422 Apr 18, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, you need to go back and back up what you believe with facts. You have not seen evolution or tested anything. You can not explain evolution when we don't even have complete fossils. I've challenged you and your only reply is your dumb comments to other atheists. Now take the challenge loser and answer. Test your knowledge. If there's tons of evidence, show it to me. Lol! This is really beginning to get fun!
No, you are an idiot, who has nothing better to do, than ignore reality.

You are not fixable, you are not teachable, in fact the only value you seem to have is as an object lesson.

See this uneducated fool "Educated What", look closely and understand, that religion will do this to you too, run if you can. His kind of ugly is something no one could want.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#9423 Apr 18, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>
Prove it! Show me what you know. Lol!
It has long ago been proven, and that none of us choose to rehash the billions of words, that make it undeniable, does not invalidate it's truth.

Serious, go back to school. Your education is broken.

“There are other issues.”

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#9424 Apr 18, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>No, you are an idiot, who has nothing better to do, than ignore reality.

You are not fixable, you are not teachable, in fact the only value you seem to have is as an object lesson.

See this uneducated fool "Educated What", look closely and understand, that religion will do this to you too, run if you can. His kind of ugly is something no one could want.
So basically you have no idea what you are talking about.

Since: May 11

UK

#9425 Apr 18, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>
Is your child evolution? Did he/she evolve differently in some fashion or form? Please enlighten me. Have you witnessed evolution?
So your standard of proof only applies to evolution and nothing else.

I rest my case.

Since: May 11

UK

#9426 Apr 18, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
<quoted text>
So cynical....and soooooo ignorant.
Theoretically,“prayer” could work for spontaneous regeneration of body parts, especially if it was the kind of “prayer” which increased the body’s electrical energy field and directed that energy to the site of the wound on the amputee.
Dr Robert Becker wrote a book called “The Body Electric”(circa 1960’s) which disusses his research on regeneration and his successful experiments on many different animals demonstrating that it is possible to trigger spontaneous regeneration of amputated limbs, etc. by applying a low level dc electric charge to the site of the wound.
Scientific research has verified the average human body naturally produces electrical energy--100 watts of power while at rest, 300-400 watts while lightly active, and up to 2,000 watts while at the peak of exertion, like running. Most of this energy output is used for things like digesting/processing food, etc, and some gets wasted in the form of body heat.  These are averages for normal people, not for adepts of the various ancient healing arts:
“A study by Seto in Japan confirmed “a large biomagnetic field emanates from the hands of practitioners of a variety of healing and martial arts techniques, including QiGong, yoga, meditation, Zen, etc. The fields were measured with a simple magnetometer consisting of two 80,000 turn coils and a sensitive amplifier. The fields had a strength of about 10-3 gauss, which is about 1000 times stronger than the strongest human biomagnetic fields (from the heart)… about 1,000,000 times stronger than the fields produced by the brain… As in Zimmerman’s study, the biomagnetic field pulsed with a variable frequency centered around 8-10 Hz.”(Oschman, 79)
It is well documented that children under the age of 7 who have amputated their findertips can regenerate them. Regeneration scientists already know the human body does indeed have a mechanism for such “miracles” but hasn’t figured out why this mechanism stops functioning after the age of 7. Maybe that's the age when humans start losing faith and begin to become cynical....?
are you taking any prescription medication?

correction: have you ceased taking your prescription medication?

Since: May 11

UK

#9427 Apr 18, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you God?
I see you think you're making all the laws and rules for God to follow.
Ya right!
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God"?

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9428 Apr 18, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>Italy was created by evolution?
Do you even think before you type?
Because I think you should make it a habit.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#9429 Apr 18, 2013
Educated What wrote:
<quoted text>But I'm talking about evolution here.
No, you're talking about everything.
You can't pick a subject you wished wasn't true and then apply a ridiculous rule to that subject, and that subject only.

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