Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: News24

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.
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And that is a question for abiogenesis, not for evolution or Big bang cosmology. Different subjects. Can you comprehend this?
Dodge all you lie they all fall under that same general heading, evolution and the origin of species, so go ahead and answer.

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Make a prediction from it that differs from the predictions of the standard scientific theories. Then we can do the observation to see which is right. Oh, make sure the prediction is agreed to be different than the standard theories first.
I don't need to deviate form any real standard science because science is all based on and around created matter, so here is my prediction based on creation, tonight when I see the moon while standing in my back garden the sun will be shining over London England.

Now here is a prediction based on my hopes for the future, this week end the Pittsburgh Steelers will win again. This I do not know for sure but I am sure hoping they do and based on the historical data they should.:)

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you believe a bearded sky pixie said, "....
What is a "bearded sky pixie said" I have never heard of this term before is it perhaps some evolutionist thing.

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Abdalla Ovadia Cohen wrote:
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There is only one version , in hebrew , the original version .
If you read it in english , you get only translation that the translator understand while in Hebrew , the bible has more than 70 meanings for every sentence in it .
I can give you more than one example how you english speakers just read it like a kids fairy tales while in hebrew it has more depth .
In fiction and poetry, ambiguity can be used to achieve wonderful artistic effect. But in nonfiction, it is to be avoided. A book that has seventy meanings for every sentence may be marvelous for mysticism, but as a guide for living or an accurate historical document, it is unreliable and confusing at best.

No matter what language it is in, the Bible has little if any value outside of it religious context. It is a poor basis for formulating secular law, worthless as an historical document, and a barrier that must be overcome when believers want to study and work in science. Even in the English that limits its meaning to less than seventy per sentence, its ambiguity allows believers to justify a surprisingly wide range of behavior that includes child abuse, forced marriage, and murder as defined by more rational secular laws.

As a token of respect for believers, I capitalize "Bible" when I write s well as spelling it correctly. But I understand why others do not. The Books itself is hard to respect.

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And since murder is unjustified killing, the rule is somewhat tautological, don't you think?
Not at all there is justifiable killing i.e. WAR, capital punishment and so on. And unjustified killing i.e. beating ones child to death, killing while drunk driving, and so on, for example.

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Yes, 14 total of each clean animal (and birds) and two each of every unclean animal. Hmmm..Were triceratops clean or unclean?
The list of clean and unclean is very well laid out in the Torah you are more than welcome to read it,

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Except, of course, for the Egyptians, the Chinese, etc. Floods happen in all parts of the world, especially those near rivers. A local flood is not the same as a global flood.
I fully agree a local flood is not the same as a regional flood nor a world wide fold, but I do have to disagree both the Egyptians and the Chinese have world wide flood stories in their culture. Look them up you will be amazed.

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You will have some problems with the mechanics of the rocks themselves if you want the amount of folding to happen in a short period of time (less than 10000 years). The flood does not explain the folding that is present unless the laws of rock mechanics are violated.
Who wrote the laws of rock mechanics? What pressures were three on the rocks during a world wide flood?

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Luke ? Matthew ?
It's not the bible .
These people were born thousands of years after the other people you mentioned (Moses,David etc).
You mix new tastment with the bible .
As defined in English, the Bible includes sacred texts from both Judaism AND Christianity. Since you are writing in English, you should use that definition and use either "the Old Testament," "the Pentateuch," "the Torah," or some other easily recognized designation when referring to extra-Christian scripture. Confusing your readership is a sign of poor writing skills, not superiority of knowledge.

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The problem is that you *do*………………………
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No, evolution simply describes how species change………………..
The definition of evolution not from a creationist but form an evolutionist,“thought to have developed”
The process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the...
The gradual development of something, esp. from a simple to a more complex form
To have developed it must have come from somewhere, so evolutionary biology does not concern its self with origins just how things change now, in other words how created organism adapt to their environment, but does biological evolution concern it’s self with new species developing over time YES it does now that becomes a issue of faith because you do not know nor have you observed any new species in nature or in the lab.
You admit that evolutionists do not know how life begun yet you dismiss out of hand the possibility of a creator, you have never seen a new species evolve yet you dismiss a creator. Sounds like you have great faith on the writings of men.
Intelligent design is the only intelligent answer.

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<quoted text> …(EDITED)….But if you insist, I will call it bible. There is two different creation stories in the bible. In the first story it list god walking, but not creating water. It then goes on to list the creation of the earth, the plants, animals, and then the story says that God created humans, male and female, without mentioning who came first or that women came from the womb of the man.
Then comes the second story. God creates Adam. Adam needs company, so the omnipotent God creates animals. Despite his omnipotence, the magical skydaddy did not know at first that animals would not be a good helpmeet for man. It is only after Adamw as displeased that he created Eve.
Seeing as though this thread has moved into a creation v evolution debate I though it prudent to address this post more than the first so called list of contradictions which was based two geologies of Yeshuah, that is quickly answered like this one is for Mary and the other for her husband Joseph, in one they talk of the Husband of Mary and the other the Guardian or father of Mary.

Now for the creation debate:

Again no issues here either,
Follow if you can
Day one God made the heavens and the earth and the water was on the face of the deep.
Day two God divides the water from the earth and the sky
Day three God gather the waters so that dry land can appears, on that land he creates plants of all kind
Day four God lights up the skies with stars (other planets) the sun and the moon
Day five God creates water animals and birds
Day six God creates land animals and Man he made male and female animals.
Day seven God brings us the Shabbat.
Where does God walk on the water but not create it? Where does it say that that women came from the womb of the man nowhere that is the answer, you are trying to deceive. This is chapter one of Genesis chapter two is a recap.
God brings all the animals to man to show him that there is none equal to him on earth, man is created as a “Living Soul” no other animal has this distinction, God is pointing this out to man. Not to try to find him a helpmeet but to show man that there is none, God already knows this God want to show man that woman is a special part of creation, created as a helpmeet for man and nothing else can take that place, not an animal nor another man.

God is not this odd sounding “magical skydaddy” as you insist on calling him, He is the almighty all knowing creator of the universe.

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Yes, the earth's only atmosphere at that time was volcanic gasses with all ingredients of life: carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen. Oh plenty of other things too, I'm sure. The rains formed the oceans we have today. Life started in the depths of the sea....single cell organisms.
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Where did all the elements originate form? and how did they combine to form water to rain and to the rocks? and how did life spontaneously erupt form wet rocks?, why if evolution is a science has this process not been reproduced on observed in the lab today?
Do you know with 100% certainty that your belief is correct?

There is a list for you to ponder.
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Where did all the elements originate form? and how did they combine to form water to rain and to the rocks? and how did life spontaneously erupt form wet rocks?, why if evolution is a science has this process not been reproduced on observed in the lab today?
Do you know with 100% certainty that your belief is correct?
There is a list for you to ponder.
Gee whiz, buddy. Take a chemistry class. There's no excuse for your ignorance. "Intelligent design" is a joke and certainly NOT science. It's nothing but mythology.

Why isn't evolution observed in the lab today? Do you have 500 million years to sit around and watch for it to happen? Don't be so silly.

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Gee whiz, buddy. Take a chemistry class. There's no excuse for your ignorance. "Intelligent design" is a joke and certainly NOT science. It's nothing but mythology.
Why isn't evolution observed in the lab today? Do you have 500 million years to sit around and watch for it to happen? Don't be so silly.
Well well well yet another evolution tag team member and not a very good one at that.

Let me lay it out for you, believing that it took 500 million years for something to happen take as much faith if not more than intelligent design. Tell me how do you know it too 500 million years if no one or nothing was there to observe it?
Previous evolution tag team members have claimed this has been done in a lab to spite your claim that we don't have enough time. Per haps you and your team should consult more.

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Seeing as though this thread has moved into a creation v evolution debate I though it prudent to address this post more than the first so called list of contradictions which was based two geologies of Yeshuah, that is quickly answered like this one is for Mary and the other for her husband Joseph, in one they talk of the Husband of Mary and the other the Guardian or father of Mary.
Now for the creation debate:
Again no issues here either,
Follow if you can
Day one God made the heavens and the earth and the water was on the face of the deep.
Day two God divides the water from the earth and the sky
Day three God gather the waters so that dry land can appears, on that land he creates plants of all kind
Day four God lights up the skies with stars (other planets) the sun and the moon
Day five God creates water animals and birds
Day six God creates land animals and Man he made male and female animals.
Day seven God brings us the Shabbat.
Where does God walk on the water but not create it? Where does it say that that women came from the womb of the man nowhere that is the answer, you are trying to deceive. This is chapter one of Genesis chapter two is a recap.
God brings all the animals to man to show him that there is none equal to him on earth, man is created as a “Living Soul” no other animal has this distinction, God is pointing this out to man. Not to try to find him a helpmeet but to show man that there is none, God already knows this God want to show man that woman is a special part of creation, created as a helpmeet for man and nothing else can take that place, not an animal nor another man.
God is not this odd sounding “magical skydaddy” as you insist on calling him, He is the almighty all knowing creator of the universe.
So bibull is infallible, has no mistakes then what are these?

24. What was the name of King Abijahs mother?

Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2)
Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20) But Absalom had only one daughter whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27)

25. Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?

Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)
No (Joshua 15:63)

26. Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?

Jacob (Matthew 1:16)
Hell (Luke 3:23)

27. Jesus descended from which son of David?

Solomon (Matthew 1:6)
Nathan(Luke3:31)

28. Who was the father of Shealtiel?

Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12)
Neri (Luke 3:27)

29. Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ?

Abiud (Matthew 1: 13)
Rhesa (Luke 3:27) But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows: i.Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v.Berechiah, vi. Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names Abiud and Rhesa do not fit in anyway.

30. Who was the father of Uzziah?

Joram (Matthew 1:8)
Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)

31. Who was the father of Jechoniah?

Josiah (Matthew 1:11)
Jeholakim (I Chronicles 3:16)

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Where did all the elements originate form?..../QUOTE]

The stars.

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.... and how did they combine to form water to rain and to the rocks?...
It's called chemistry.
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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.... and how did life spontaneously erupt form wet rocks?....
Abiogenesis and not from wet rocks but dissolved chemicals.
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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....why if evolution is a science has this process not been reproduced on observed in the lab today?
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It has.
Colin The Zionist wrote:
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Do you know with 100% certainty that your belief is correct?
There is a list for you to ponder.
We don't have belief we work with knowledge. There is this wonderful new thing called education you should try it sometime.

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Where did all the elements originate form?..
The stars.

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Richardfs wrote:
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It's called chemistry.
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Abiogenesis and not from wet rocks but dissolved chemicals.
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It has.
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We don't have belief we work with knowledge. There is this wonderful new thing called education you should try it sometime.
Chemistry over millions of year is called faith.
Do some chemicals nite devolved out of wet rocks.
Where has it been observed in the lab post proof.
You claim knowledge of shy happened 500 million years ago. How did you or any oneor anything observe that.

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No, evolution simply describes how species change over time. how many times do I have to say this to get it through to you?
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You can't get through a stone wall.

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downhill246 wrote:
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The Black Book of Communism lists the millions of deaths caused by atheists in less than one hundred years.
Well I am not a communist. You are still a Christian.

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