Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

There are 14732 comments on the News24 story from Aug 27, 2012, titled Why Atheism Will Replace Religion. In it, News24 reports that:

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

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“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#7781 Apr 1, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
Atheism replace religion?
LOL The article's author didn't do his homework.
In the US, "atheism" is defined as a religion by the courts and is entitled to all the Constitutional protections of any other religions.
The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that atheism held the same standing as religion concerning matters of the first ammendment.
(Wallace v. Jaffree, 472 U.S. 38 (1985)),
"At one time it was thought that this right [referring to the right to choose one’s own creed] merely proscribed the preference of one Christian sect over another, but would not require equal respect for the conscience of the infidel, the atheist, or the adherent of a non-Christian faith such as Islam or Judaism. But when the underlying principle has been examined in the crucible of litigation, the Court has unambiguously concluded that the individual freedom of conscience protected by the First Amendment embraces the right to select any religious faith or none at all."

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#7782 Apr 1, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yes that was a great one! Sad when even though the people had their conspiracy factually destroyed in front of their eyes they still couldn't let go.
Check out that guy and his, I'm a scientist series. You will probably like it.
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Will do, thanks.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#7783 Apr 1, 2013
madscot wrote:
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The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that atheism held the same standing as religion concerning matters of the first ammendment.
(Wallace v. Jaffree, 472 U.S. 38 (1985)),
"At one time it was thought that this right [referring to the right to choose one’s own creed] merely proscribed the preference of one Christian sect over another, but would not require equal respect for the conscience of the infidel, the atheist, or the adherent of a non-Christian faith such as Islam or Judaism. But when the underlying principle has been examined in the crucible of litigation, the Court has unambiguously concluded that the individual freedom of conscience protected by the First Amendment embraces the right to select any religious faith or none at all."
So a negation becomes a "positive" assertion?

This is a real conjuring trick!!
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#7784 Apr 2, 2013
inv e wrote:
..Anyways, just wanted to ask, do atheists want Atheism to replace theism?
Religion is bound to decline until it is an actvity for cranks and perverts eventually.

Religion = superstition
Theology = mythology
Truth will out

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#7785 Apr 2, 2013
So what is your opinion of Muslim child brides? Often ordered by Muslim clerics themselves?
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>So a negation becomes a "positive" assertion?

This is a real conjuring trick!!
Thinking

Mirfield, UK

#7786 Apr 2, 2013
If there is no impact on the rights of others, if there is no more holding back of scientific progress, if there is no concept of blasphemy, if there is no more inequality, then I am happy for people to believe whatever helps them get through their lives.
inv e wrote:
Haha, good to see some familiar faces here :)
Anyways, just wanted to ask, do atheists want Atheism to replace theism?
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#7787 Apr 2, 2013
Thinking wrote:
If there is no impact on the rights of others, if there is no more holding back of scientific progress, if there is no concept of blasphemy, if there is no more inequality, then I am happy for people to believe whatever helps them get through their lives.
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Since humans came without any higher purpose of their lives, who cares what they believe or what they do not believe.

They are just one of the human species out of the millions on this planet. So they should hurry along their lives, till they return to their graves, where billions before them went and billions shall follow after them

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#7788 Apr 2, 2013
ezdzit wrote:
Atheism replace religion?
LOL The article's author didn't do his homework.
In the US, "atheism" is defined as a religion by the courts and is entitled to all the Constitutional protections of any other religions.
A necessary legal machination to protect OUR rights to non-belief. We do know more Bible than the average thumper and certainly understand it better. My years in Baptist "Bible study" were spent with devout Christians basically trying to peck a few grains of wheat out of all that chaff. They manage to 'get' so much out of so little, it's kind of pitiful in a way. Many Atheists put A LOT more thought into religious matters than most of the blindly faithful. I blanch at the thought of participating in any "religion" but I certainly understand the need and appreciate the protection afforded by this definition. Godbots can be quite dangerous.

Secular Humanism is a 'thing', complete with a rational manifesto, poised to "replace religion" when the time comes. Atheists would generally like to take some credit for hastening that day, but we lack a "manifesto", creed, belief system ... we are, quite simply ... a-theist, that is, without theism. We see things clearly, but have nothing to offer anywhere near as 'cool' as religion.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#7789 Apr 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Since humans came without any higher purpose of their lives, who cares what they believe or what they do not believe.
They are just one of the human species out of the millions on this planet. So they should hurry along their lives, till they return to their graves, where billions before them went and billions shall follow after them
Wow MUQ ... it sounds like you are starting to come around!! Congratulations.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#7790 Apr 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Atheism will also go down to the dumpyard of human history...as so many isms before it went.
Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, Nazism, Fascism.... Atheism will have the same future.
All these isms glitter for a while, promising great hope, but in the end they are found that there is no gold in it, false glitter.
They do more harm than benefits to human society and so they are dumped.\
You can hang an 'ism' on just about anything, like 'fundamentalism' or how about your favorite ...'fanaticism'. You really have to devote a lot of time to figure out which ones are bad and which ones are good. Head-bangers and Bible-thumpers are far too occupied to invest that amount of time in something that's not all that good for the soul.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#7791 Apr 2, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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So a negation becomes a "positive" assertion?
This is a real conjuring trick!!
Hey MUQ ... why don't you answer the questions put to you on the misuse and abuse of your women and children? Can you not 'conjure' up something in way of response? I am an Atheist and thus the lowest of form of 'infidel' yet, I feel somewhat tainted by our association. I realize that condemning these practices would be tantamount to your condemning Islam and you would place yourself in jeopardy. Maybe we can slip something past your censors. Put two periods at the end of your next sentence to indicate that you consider these practices abhorrent. You can claim that they were a simple typo.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#7792 Apr 2, 2013
LTT wrote:
Athiesm will never replace religion. That is just the "wishful thinking" of those who want to believe it will.
Athiesm is a symptom of sin and of the sign of the times. Athiesm goes hand-in-hand with Communism. How many Communist minded people want people to believe that there is no God, today?
Even the belief in "self" can be a religion when self is considered greater than God, equal to God, or takes God out of the possibilites.
Do any high achievers take God out of the possibiliy of being real, and try to give "self" the credit for what God has done, has given, or allowed? Sure! And some low achievers do too.
In due time, man can sometimes get too full of "self" and look for something else. What else? Well, there is a vacuum inside man that only God can fill because God made it and put it there for only Himself to fill. The thing is--that God does not push Himself on anyone. He "knocks at our hearts' doors," ih hopes to come in--and have a relationship with us.
One thing I want to mention is that there will be many deceivers who will come and deceve man away from the thought/hope/chance to believe in God--if man will allow it to happen in his/her own life.
There is one coming who will deceive more of mankind than at any other time in history--other than Satan, himself. It is the false prophet spoken of in the Book of Revelation. The Bible says he will deceive many into believing his lies, even by miracles.
Apparently, there will come a time in our history in which so very many are going to need miracles. And not to mention--that many even now say, "Show me your proof." One will come and present his proof that he and another are God, and they should be worshipped. Man will want to believe it. Man will believe it. Man will be decieved by what man will "see." Please read Revelation 13 to see what I am talking about.
More than seeing with the natural eye, is what can be seen with the spiriutal eye. More than hearing with the natural ear, is what can be heard with the spiritual ear. There is a difference. What we can know with a closed mind and an open heart are 2 different things. You say, "But that can go both ways and you (you the athiest) could say the same thing to me (me, as in any believer in Jesus)'for my own closed mindedness.'"
It's not about being closed-minded. It's about knowing in Whom we belive. "Christ died for us while we were yet in our sins." He acted first on our behalves before we ever acted in response to what He has done in His perfect works and life for us and for His walk with us. He is good and great that way. A lot of man's problem, more than unbelief, is hardness of heart. I pray that God will open the spiritual hearts, eyes, and ears of all of man.
If man will not do it now, the Antichrist and the False Prophet will do it for man. But--it will be the fake, and not the Original. Praise the Lord forever! May God be with you all and help you all today. God even owns the air that we breathe. He is good to give it to us.
Somebody please give this person a tissue. Thank you for the illuminating brain washing demonstration.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#7793 Apr 2, 2013
There are millions of different human species?
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>Since humans came without any higher purpose of their lives, who cares what they believe or what they do not believe.

They are just one of the human species out of the millions on this planet. So they should hurry along their lives, till they return to their graves, where billions before them went and billions shall follow after them
Libertarian

UK

#7794 Apr 2, 2013
Any people stuck in one moment of time, not willing to evolve and adapt is doomed.

Thats the problem when you say something is the word of God, you cant change or grow any more.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#7795 Apr 2, 2013
Kesla15 wrote:
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I myself don't fear death in the vague sense, as I also know that it is part of the natural cycle of things.
And the very fact that I am even alive, on this planet is nothing more than a mathematical miracle.
What I do fear however, is the obliteration of self, and that at any moment, I will cease to be.
It is that fear, and that concept which drives people to religion. Because they don't want to accept the idea that once they are dead... Click... they are turned off for good.
I don't believe a fear of death, or acceptance of death necessarily makes someone better or worse than his peers though. I just don't see the need to run to a religion in order to try and make sense of it, only to then have a superiority complex over all other living things (particularly those who aren't human such as animals) who don't share their faith.
"Obliteration of self" is definitely the hard part. That and the fact that dying is usually accompanied by some unpleasantry or another ... like getting my guts splattered all over the freeway by an 18 wheeler on my motorcycle ... I kind of fear that. It's all part of the 'survival instinct' package I guess.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#7796 Apr 2, 2013
All theists are hallucinating fools with no proof of god.

Unbeatable Fact Of Life.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#7797 Apr 2, 2013
RHill wrote:
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No, but I slow down every time I see a cop. What does that tell ya?
That blue people could affect you in ways you wouldn't like?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#7798 Apr 2, 2013
Oh certainly we all have survival instinct which includes not wanting to suffer. I drive safely on my Roadking an don't really gun the throttle or hot rod around.

But religion focuses on something different the need to go on in some mythical afterlife and the need to worship correctly so you don't go to the wrong one like a burning hell.

Personally I agree with Mark Twain's comment on death.
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>"Obliteration of self" is definitely the hard part. That and the fact that dying is usually accompanied by some unpleasantry or another ... like getting my guts splattered all over the freeway by an 18 wheeler on my motorcycle ... I kind of fear that. It's all part of the 'survival instinct' package I guess.
Thinking

Mirfield, UK

#7799 Apr 2, 2013
So why do your lot cut the pissflaps out of little girls?
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Since humans came without any higher purpose of their lives, who cares what they believe or what they do not believe.
They are just one of the human species out of the millions on this planet. So they should hurry along their lives, till they return to their graves, where billions before them went and billions shall follow after them

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#7800 Apr 2, 2013
RHill wrote:
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"Obliteration of self" is definitely the hard part. That and the fact that dying is usually accompanied by some unpleasantry or another ... like getting my guts splattered all over the freeway by an 18 wheeler on my motorcycle ... I kind of fear that. It's all part of the 'survival instinct' package I guess.
I don't find the 'obliteration of self' to be that difficult. I figure there was a *long* time in the past where I didn't exist, and there will be a similar *long* time in the future where I do not exist. I will be around for a limited period of time, just like all other humans. After a generation or so, I won't even be a memory. Perhaps some of my mathematics will inspire others, but perhaps not.

The 'unpleasantry' of dying is more my fear. Death usually involves pain or some other discomfort. But then, so does growing older. Eventually the body just gives out.

This candle flame of life will eventually be blown out. I just want it to shine while it can.

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