Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

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Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking. Read more

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#7611 Mar 27, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Probably not. There isn't a fission reactor at the core of the earth. Most of the heat is produced by alpha emission (which is not typically considered to be fission).
It is most likely that RHill was referring to actual natural fission reactors like the Oklo reactor in Gabon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_...
That's the one! Did you see my link in Post 7538? An interesting idea that our Primordial Soup may have been warmed in such a manner. Certainly more stable over longer periods of time than most other energy sources. I wonder if anybody has looked for Stromatolites around Gabon.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#7612 Mar 27, 2013
Indeed it is amazing we have come so far. But as you say ancient man came up with the notion and concept of god under conditions that were not, how shall we say... Optimal?
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>Ancient Man, every bit as intelligent as we are, exposed to a Nature unfiltered by our accumulated knowledge, with their own share of psychotics, munching who-knows-what psychoactive plant ... I'm surprised there weren't more gods. In fact, it's rather amazing that we aren't all still sacrificing goats and trying to tell the future reading their spilt entrails.
Thinking

Mirfield, UK

#7613 Mar 27, 2013
The clocks are changing soon.
RHill wrote:
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The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists has the Doomsday Clock set at 5 til Midnight. They constantly ponder these matters and I've never had any reason to doubt their assessment. I think they're factoring in biological weapons now-a-days. These are all terrible weapons and if that is how we meet our end then we will be getting exactly what we deserve. If anything, I guess I have a little more faith in Humanity than that, I am a Humanist after all and hope that our destiny includes traveling to other stars. In the near term, if any of these horrors are unleashed, it will, most likely, be by or in response to actions of people acting under some kind of religious influence. Our politicians and generals have managed to restrain themselves thus far (with a couple notable exceptions of course) but, I'm not sure that Fundamentalists (of any persuasion) would be so timid. Fundies scratch and paw the ground in anticipation of their long awaited Armageddon and a nuclear fire fits so well with biblical prophecy. That's why I am close-minded and bigoted when it comes to religion. It's scary and dangerous.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#7614 Mar 27, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Indeed it is amazing we have come so far. But as you say ancient man came up with the notion and concept of god under conditions that were not, how shall we say... Optimal?
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I've been through a lot of storms that had me practically quaking with fear. Being armed with a fairly decent understanding of meteorology didn't really help that much. I feel a strong kinship with our ancient ancestors at such times. A hurricane is not unlike a tantrum thrown by some petty god. There's even the false calm and reversal of winds as the Eye passes over ... a petty FEMALE god.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#7615 Mar 27, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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I'm not talking about how intelligent a person is though.
I'm speaking more of education.
One can be intelligent and not use it. Or one can be intelligent and use religion to their advantage.
There are many of those types around.
Though I realize what you're trying to say and I will rephrase:
The highly religious are diminishing, due to more people getting ahold of the facts.
For example, a lot less people are as religious as people from, let's say, 30 years ago.
https://www.google.com/search...

http://www.mormonsandscience.com/uploads/8/9/...

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#7616 Mar 27, 2013
Thinking wrote:
The clocks are changing soon.
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Really? Which way?(or need I ask)
Thinking

Mirfield, UK

#7617 Mar 27, 2013
In general, clocks go forwards.
RHill wrote:
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Really? Which way?(or need I ask)

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#7618 Mar 27, 2013
Thinking wrote:
In general, clocks go forwards.
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The Doomsday clock is an exception ... thank goodness.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#7619 Mar 27, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
You often see self described agnostics claim that you can't prove or show proof for any god. That god is in essence unprovable or unknowable.
They think this makes them more open minded per se.
But I always wonder, how could you know this? To say that god is completely unprovable or unknowable one way or the other is a HUGE leap. How could you know this fact? Has this person traveled 1,000,000 years into the future and collected all possible data? Are we to believe that 1,000,000 years from now people will still be believing in the ancient Palestinian gods?
Now you can say, I think or it's my opinion that god is unknowable one way or the other. But to dictate this opinion on others is the very definition of fundamentalism.
Any god is a social construct created by ancient man when they were lonely, scared, or awestruck by events in their life. This god was a security blanket used to comfort and unite and sadly often to kill and destroy those not like you.
Humanity is growing up now and more and more we see it is time to put away such childish things.
I think they're taking advantage of a strange little philosophical conundrum. That being that you can't 'prove' anything that doesn't exist, doesn't exist. Not with our imaginations being what they are. What kind of 'evidence' does something that doesn't exist leave? None ... ever. God is just one of any number of imaginary things we could come up with and never be able to 'prove' doesn't really exist.

On the brighter side, I think it is possible to 'prove' that Rational Skepticism is a better way to look at the world than religious faith. It's clear that we didn't pray our way to the top of the food chain. In their heart-of-hearts, even the most devout must KNOW that they are fooling themselves.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#7620 Mar 27, 2013
Thinking wrote:
In general, clocks go forwards.
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I think with Glasnost, the Fall of the Berlin Wall and various test and weapons limitation treaties, the old clock reversed itself several times in the last few decades.

“ROCK ON ROCKERS!!”

Since: Mar 11

Rockin' USA ;)

#7621 Mar 27, 2013
HELL NO..Their nonbelievers..
DON'T offer wine and crackers at Communions and other religious holidays... WE AIN'T GIVING OUR TREATS UP!!!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#7622 Mar 27, 2013
Certainly we can see how they could be deluded by such.
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>I've been through a lot of storms that had me practically quaking with fear. Being armed with a fairly decent understanding of meteorology didn't really help that much. I feel a strong kinship with our ancient ancestors at such times. A hurricane is not unlike a tantrum thrown by some petty god. There's even the false calm and reversal of winds as the Eye passes over ... a petty FEMALE god.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#7623 Mar 27, 2013
Of course one needs not concern themselves on disproving baseless claims. Be it for god or whatever some crazy homeless man is ranting about on the street.

A baseless assertion should be treated as such yes?
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>I think they're taking advantage of a strange little philosophical conundrum. That being that you can't 'prove' anything that doesn't exist, doesn't exist. Not with our imaginations being what they are. What kind of 'evidence' does something that doesn't exist leave? None ... ever. God is just one of any number of imaginary things we could come up with and never be able to 'prove' doesn't really exist.

On the brighter side, I think it is possible to 'prove' that Rational Skepticism is a better way to look at the world than religious faith. It's clear that we didn't pray our way to the top of the food chain. In their heart-of-hearts, even the most devout must KNOW that they are fooling themselves.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#7624 Mar 27, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Of course one needs not concern themselves on disproving baseless claims. Be it for god or whatever some crazy homeless man is ranting about on the street.
A baseless assertion should be treated as such yes?
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Unfortunately, feel-good supernatural assertions garner a large base from little more than anecdotal "evidence", filling what is seemingly an almost universal 'need'. Godbots continue to rule the roost and it is our unhappy fate to rock their little boat.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#7625 Mar 27, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
God/s either exist or they don't right?
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I don't know. Do they?
http://ed.ted.com/lessons/what-s-invisible-mo...

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#7626 Mar 27, 2013
RHill wrote:
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I dunno. That makes it sound like the odds are sort of 50/50, lending WAY too much credence to the possibility of a god.
good point

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#7627 Mar 27, 2013
Well I have noticed some holes drilled into that roost.

We have went from god made and controls everything to... God farted and helped the start Big Bang.
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>Unfortunately, feel-good supernatural assertions garner a large base from little more than anecdotal "evidence", filling what is seemingly an almost universal 'need'. Godbots continue to rule the roost and it is our unhappy fate to rock their little boat.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#7628 Mar 27, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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So where is this bigotry?
You're using words you don't understand again.
The ego?
I think your beat us there.
Who's the one saying that everyone is stupid but doesn't believe not disbelieve in a deity?
Are you serious?
Who here is claiming to be more intelligent than others based solely on what their opinions are?
I do not know how many times the people in here have called someone who believes in a god(s) religitard or ignorant.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#7629 Mar 27, 2013
Sorry but atoms and imaginary friends called god are far and apart different.

Interesting link but nothing whatsoever to do with my statement.

Again god/s either exist or they don't. When we look to how the notion of god started by people who lacked the understanding of their surroundings that we have we can clearly see how they were mistaken.

Again your atom example falls flat because they were discovered and properly documented for all to see and observe. The god notion comes from chanting around campfires by people who thought weather was controlled by spirits.
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know. Do they?
http://ed.ted.com/lessons/what-s-invisible-mo...

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#7630 Mar 27, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Sorry but atoms and imaginary friends called god are far and apart different.
Interesting link but nothing whatsoever to do with my statement.
Again god/s either exist or they don't. When we look to how the notion of god started by people who lacked the understanding of their surroundings that we have we can clearly see how they were mistaken.
Again your atom example falls flat because they were discovered and properly documented for all to see and observe. The god notion comes from chanting around campfires by people who thought weather was controlled by spirits.
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All I am saying is that until we know for certain then anything is possible. I will not write off something completely just because it does not fit into the way I wish to see the world. All it takes is one discovery to change everything. There is so much that we do not yet understand. To claim otherwise is foolish. TO ridicule and bully those for not knowing or understanding certain things or for having differences of opinion.

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