Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

There are 14730 comments on the News24 story from Aug 27, 2012, titled Why Atheism Will Replace Religion. In it, News24 reports that:

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

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“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

nowhere near a pound of $100's

#7618 Mar 27, 2013
Thinking wrote:
In general, clocks go forwards.
<quoted text>
The Doomsday clock is an exception ... thank goodness.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#7619 Mar 27, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
You often see self described agnostics claim that you can't prove or show proof for any god. That god is in essence unprovable or unknowable.
They think this makes them more open minded per se.
But I always wonder, how could you know this? To say that god is completely unprovable or unknowable one way or the other is a HUGE leap. How could you know this fact? Has this person traveled 1,000,000 years into the future and collected all possible data? Are we to believe that 1,000,000 years from now people will still be believing in the ancient Palestinian gods?
Now you can say, I think or it's my opinion that god is unknowable one way or the other. But to dictate this opinion on others is the very definition of fundamentalism.
Any god is a social construct created by ancient man when they were lonely, scared, or awestruck by events in their life. This god was a security blanket used to comfort and unite and sadly often to kill and destroy those not like you.
Humanity is growing up now and more and more we see it is time to put away such childish things.
I think they're taking advantage of a strange little philosophical conundrum. That being that you can't 'prove' anything that doesn't exist, doesn't exist. Not with our imaginations being what they are. What kind of 'evidence' does something that doesn't exist leave? None ... ever. God is just one of any number of imaginary things we could come up with and never be able to 'prove' doesn't really exist.

On the brighter side, I think it is possible to 'prove' that Rational Skepticism is a better way to look at the world than religious faith. It's clear that we didn't pray our way to the top of the food chain. In their heart-of-hearts, even the most devout must KNOW that they are fooling themselves.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#7620 Mar 27, 2013
Thinking wrote:
In general, clocks go forwards.
<quoted text>
I think with Glasnost, the Fall of the Berlin Wall and various test and weapons limitation treaties, the old clock reversed itself several times in the last few decades.

“ROCK ON ROCKERS!!”

Since: Mar 11

Rockin' USA ;)

#7621 Mar 27, 2013
HELL NO..Their nonbelievers..
DON'T offer wine and crackers at Communions and other religious holidays... WE AIN'T GIVING OUR TREATS UP!!!

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#7622 Mar 27, 2013
Certainly we can see how they could be deluded by such.
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>I've been through a lot of storms that had me practically quaking with fear. Being armed with a fairly decent understanding of meteorology didn't really help that much. I feel a strong kinship with our ancient ancestors at such times. A hurricane is not unlike a tantrum thrown by some petty god. There's even the false calm and reversal of winds as the Eye passes over ... a petty FEMALE god.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#7623 Mar 27, 2013
Of course one needs not concern themselves on disproving baseless claims. Be it for god or whatever some crazy homeless man is ranting about on the street.

A baseless assertion should be treated as such yes?
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>I think they're taking advantage of a strange little philosophical conundrum. That being that you can't 'prove' anything that doesn't exist, doesn't exist. Not with our imaginations being what they are. What kind of 'evidence' does something that doesn't exist leave? None ... ever. God is just one of any number of imaginary things we could come up with and never be able to 'prove' doesn't really exist.

On the brighter side, I think it is possible to 'prove' that Rational Skepticism is a better way to look at the world than religious faith. It's clear that we didn't pray our way to the top of the food chain. In their heart-of-hearts, even the most devout must KNOW that they are fooling themselves.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#7624 Mar 27, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Of course one needs not concern themselves on disproving baseless claims. Be it for god or whatever some crazy homeless man is ranting about on the street.
A baseless assertion should be treated as such yes?
<quoted text>
Unfortunately, feel-good supernatural assertions garner a large base from little more than anecdotal "evidence", filling what is seemingly an almost universal 'need'. Godbots continue to rule the roost and it is our unhappy fate to rock their little boat.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#7625 Mar 27, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
God/s either exist or they don't right?
<quoted text>
I don't know. Do they?
http://ed.ted.com/lessons/what-s-invisible-mo...

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#7626 Mar 27, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
I dunno. That makes it sound like the odds are sort of 50/50, lending WAY too much credence to the possibility of a god.
good point

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#7627 Mar 27, 2013
Well I have noticed some holes drilled into that roost.

We have went from god made and controls everything to... God farted and helped the start Big Bang.
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>Unfortunately, feel-good supernatural assertions garner a large base from little more than anecdotal "evidence", filling what is seemingly an almost universal 'need'. Godbots continue to rule the roost and it is our unhappy fate to rock their little boat.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#7628 Mar 27, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
So where is this bigotry?
You're using words you don't understand again.
The ego?
I think your beat us there.
Who's the one saying that everyone is stupid but doesn't believe not disbelieve in a deity?
Are you serious?
Who here is claiming to be more intelligent than others based solely on what their opinions are?
I do not know how many times the people in here have called someone who believes in a god(s) religitard or ignorant.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#7629 Mar 27, 2013
Sorry but atoms and imaginary friends called god are far and apart different.

Interesting link but nothing whatsoever to do with my statement.

Again god/s either exist or they don't. When we look to how the notion of god started by people who lacked the understanding of their surroundings that we have we can clearly see how they were mistaken.

Again your atom example falls flat because they were discovered and properly documented for all to see and observe. The god notion comes from chanting around campfires by people who thought weather was controlled by spirits.
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know. Do they?
http://ed.ted.com/lessons/what-s-invisible-mo...

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#7630 Mar 27, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Sorry but atoms and imaginary friends called god are far and apart different.
Interesting link but nothing whatsoever to do with my statement.
Again god/s either exist or they don't. When we look to how the notion of god started by people who lacked the understanding of their surroundings that we have we can clearly see how they were mistaken.
Again your atom example falls flat because they were discovered and properly documented for all to see and observe. The god notion comes from chanting around campfires by people who thought weather was controlled by spirits.
<quoted text>
All I am saying is that until we know for certain then anything is possible. I will not write off something completely just because it does not fit into the way I wish to see the world. All it takes is one discovery to change everything. There is so much that we do not yet understand. To claim otherwise is foolish. TO ridicule and bully those for not knowing or understanding certain things or for having differences of opinion.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#7631 Mar 27, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>All I am saying is that until we know for certain then anything is possible. I will not write off something completely just because it does not fit into the way I wish to see the world. All it takes is one discovery to change everything. There is so much that we do not yet understand. To claim otherwise is foolish. TO ridicule and bully those for not knowing or understanding certain things or for having differences of opinion.

Is Your Red The Same as My Red?.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#7632 Mar 27, 2013
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? You must hate teachers, priests and politicians.
Sometimes.. I do.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#7633 Mar 27, 2013
Your atom example was actually backwards and proves my point. Ancient tribal people chanting around a fire didn't bring up the notion of atoms, molecules and such, make a religion based on that and use that as an excuse to attack and kill others.

It was scientific discovery that brought the advancements in our knowledge of microscopic life. The more we learn and advance the further we move away from campfire legends like angry spirits that make it snow when we don't chant properly and more towards microscopic discoveries and weather forecasts on our iPhone yes?

While we don't say god is 100% impossible, we do know from looking at the origins of god and the lack of evidence for their existence the odds of there actually being one is so low it's absurd yes?

Now people are free to live with their comforting god fantasies and delusions if it makes them feel better. They however have no right to lord over other's lives and impede progress by invoking some ancient campfire tribal god's so called wishes.
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>All I am saying is that until we know for certain then anything is possible. I will not write off something completely just because it does not fit into the way I wish to see the world. All it takes is one discovery to change everything. There is so much that we do not yet understand. To claim otherwise is foolish. TO ridicule and bully those for not knowing or understanding certain things or for having differences of opinion.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#7634 Mar 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Your atom example was actually backwards and proves my point. Ancient tribal people chanting around a fire didn't bring up the notion of atoms, molecules and such, make a religion based on that and use that as an excuse to attack and kill others.
It was scientific discovery that brought the advancements in our knowledge of microscopic life. The more we learn and advance the further we move away from campfire legends like angry spirits that make it snow when we don't chant properly and more towards microscopic discoveries and weather forecasts on our iPhone yes?
While we don't say god is 100% impossible, we do know from looking at the origins of god and the lack of evidence for their existence the odds of there actually being one is so low it's absurd yes?
Now people are free to live with their comforting god fantasies and delusions if it makes them feel better. They however have no right to lord over other's lives and impede progress by invoking some ancient campfire tribal god's so called wishes.
<quoted text>
Finally.
Thanks.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#7635 Mar 28, 2013
What I have always said.

And so you agree since that the religious can't even demonstrate their delusional god to be real we have no reason to allow them to invoke his so called rules to lord over others?
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Finally.
Thanks.
Thinking

Barnsley, UK

#7636 Mar 28, 2013
Fair enough.

When I visited Utah, I had to put my clock back thirty years.
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
I think with Glasnost, the Fall of the Berlin Wall and various test and weapons limitation treaties, the old clock reversed itself several times in the last few decades.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#7638 Mar 28, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
See, it went down with education.

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