Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 Full story: News24 14,489

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking. Read more

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#6769 Mar 8, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
01. I do not want to deny you the pleasure of finding out the truth about "multiverses"Ö. If you think it would PROVE that there is no Creator!!
02. And who will provide you with Quartz? Newton, Darwin, Einstein or Hubble?. I do not realize how dense you people are, until I engage you into discussions!!
03. What is "nature"? Will you be kind enough to define it for me? Anything which you cannot do or unable to do, you "blame" it on nature!!
God is perfect, the imperfection is only in the creations. And anyone to comment on the "quality of Creator" would be one who had "created even a single atom in this Universe"
You are most unfit to comment on the work of Creator unless you create something yourself?
5. Hubble gives you a picture, not an explanation. This is true. You can interpret it any way you like.
6. The world was not missing anything when there was no Isreal for past 2000 years and it wont miss any thing if it disappears from the world.
But do not tell it to the President of USA, the poor man will not be able to sleep for the rest of his life!!(or remaining term in the office!!)
7. Do you mean to say that our discussion is about win or loose? Are we in a wrestling match?
If you do not want to believe , you will never believe.
Jesus preached the same message to crowd and Pharisees, the crowd believed in him and Pharisees did not. The message was same, but people took it differently.
In the same way, our prophet preached the same message to all Makkah people. Abu LAHAB (His real uncle) rejected it and BILAL (an Abyssinian slave) accepted it.
It is not about winning or loosing.
It is about do you follow the truth or your whims and fancies.
01. What? You must "prove" your Creator Theory and you cannot. The Multiverse would be another nail in your Creator's coffin. We've already discussed how, in a large population,'miracles' happen all the time.

02. Silicon, like the other elements, is formed in the core of dying stars.

03. The physical Universe, unadorned by fancy. Nature is the 'cause' of everything, including the evolution of god-imagining super monkeys. It's interesting that, being Human, I (we) cannot help but assign Nature human qualities like a sex or a temperament. Coming to know Nature is very much like coming to 'know' a god, I suppose, with the exception that it is all real.

Oh, like everyone else, I helped in the 'creation' of my children and a few works of art and just maybe an original thought or two. Some of the things we think, do and say may well be unique and 'new' to the Universe. This makes us all "Creators" of sorts and well qualified to critique your god-theories. It is, in fact, our duty as thinking beings. We may well be the most organized, self-aware lumps of matter in the Universe and along with that comes certain obligations.

5. A picture is worth a thousand words ... unless you're a godbot.

6. Israel earned it's right to exist through her courage and determination. You Arabs can't conjure up enough of either one to pose a serious threat. Like children, you can irritate and make messes but you cannot run the world. Your religion keeps your minds in a constant state of preadolescence, you can never really grow up.

7. Hardly. There are no winners or losers. There's just reality and make believe. There is SURVIVAL and my god, Nature, says it will be the fittest who will win that game.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#6770 Mar 8, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Yesterday our Prime Minister pledged £35m to eradicate islamic Female Genital Mutilation.
Will you applaud him for this?
<quoted text>
I would be interested to learn the details of his plan. For instance, how would one eradicate islamic Female Genital Mutilation without eradicating Islamics or Islamic females? Education? Gonna take a lot more than 35m 'Lbs' to educate such a cherished practice outta these people.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#6771 Mar 8, 2013
swerty wrote:
Muslims go to mosque on a Friday (Venus), Jews go to temple on Saturday (Saturn), and Christians go to church on Sunday (Sun).
I know, right? What's God got against having a whole weekend off?
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#6772 Mar 8, 2013
RHill wrote:
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I would be interested to learn the details of his plan. For instance, how would one eradicate islamic Female Genital Mutilation without eradicating Islamics or Islamic females? Education? Gonna take a lot more than 35m 'Lbs' to educate such a cherished practice outta these people.
Yes, male mutilation is legal on the NHS and depends on a hospital trust and a surgeon colluding in the assaults. I doubt if the majority of voters in any NHS Trust area would sanction that abuse, let alone FGM which is more serious and illegal.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03...

It's an effort to tackle the problem internationally, not just nationally. I hope someone watches how its spent.(..an investment of 35 million pounds from Britainís foreign aid budget dedicated to eradicating the procedure across the globe within a generation).
Lincoln

United States

#6773 Mar 8, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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Actual facts:
1. Evolution is proven.
2. The approximate age of Earth is 6.4 billion years.
3. No one was made from sand, then cloned through a person's rib, in order to then have incest and populate the world.
4. Facts, science, knowledge, intelligence, and common sense, all prove and have proved the bible wrong in many cases.
Again, to you crazy fundies, knowledge threatens you. Because there's a difference between belief and knowledge; god is belief, science is knowledge.
"to you crazy fundies, knowledge threatens you"

If you need to call aposter a " fundies"

you may not be so certain of what you post?

Seems a term used by the uneducated,...just saying

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#6774 Mar 8, 2013
You gotta be kidding wrote:
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CORRECTION
Most religion = superstition
The GOD of the BIBLE and the BIBLE = Facts
Evolution = Lies
Atheism = Stupidity.
Easy hay.
Of course it's easy. Being ignorant, as you so proudly display, takes no real effort,... except for that whole denying reality thing that your type is so adept at.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#6775 Mar 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
The Holy Quran says the earth is round .
The "Holy Quran" (and the Bible for that matter) is good material to start a campfire with. Although, if you plan to cook over that fire you want to make sure the book is completely burned or you risk ruining a perfectly good meal.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#6776 Mar 8, 2013
You gotta be kidding wrote:
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Just because you cant understand what facts are (mainly due to you being brainwashed) dies not change my facts into fantasy.
A fact is a fact whether you choose to accept it or not.

Facts don't need faith.

Contrast that with the various different religions that exist and all the unproveable cosmic mega-beings that people worship.

Religion and gods are based on faith - not facts.

Science is based on facts.
Lincoln

United States

#6777 Mar 8, 2013
Limits to human knowledge are frustrating.

What happens after we die has been discussed in the past by the best minds available.

People who post "god-bot" :-) seem not in this category

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#6778 Mar 8, 2013
Today I posted a story of the Religion Forum about the Amish Beard Cutting convictions.

Blaming "Atheists" for the failure of religious sects is simply a tragic attempt to ignore the reality that Religious groups often cause most of their own problems.

Think about it. Here we have a group of very conservative religious people attacking their own family members because it was believed they were being "unfaithful to God".

The ideas of "blasphemy" and "heresy" were inventions of man designed to keep people from asking questions and thinking for themselves. Until religions begin to encourage rational thought, and practice the "love and compassion" most claim they are rooted in, those religions will continue to be problematic for themselves.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#6779 Mar 8, 2013


Happiness cannot come from hatred or anger. Nobody can say, "Today I am happy because this morning I was very angry." On the contrary, people feel uneasy and sad and say, "Today I am not happy because I lost my temper this morning." Through kindness, whether at our own level or at the national and international level, through mutual understanding and through mutual respect, we will get peace, we will get happiness, and we will get genuine satisfaction.

- His Holiness the Dalai Lama
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#6780 Mar 8, 2013
Golden planets?
You gotta be kidding wrote:
<quoted text>
...bullions of planets...
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#6781 Mar 8, 2013
Wrong- pi is not 3.
You gotta be kidding wrote:
<quoted text>
I fully agree facts will be facts
FACT NO 1: evolution is a lie made up by foolish men to discredit the GOD of the Bible.
FACT NO 2: There is no scientific evidence to back up the evolution lie.
FACT NO 3: the world is about 6000 years old.
FACT NO 4: The creation story is 100% accurate and true.
FACT NO 5: Science has never proved anything in the BIBLE to be incorrect.
Easy lesson even for a fool like you.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#6782 Mar 8, 2013
You gotta be kidding wrote:
<quoted text>
You really are stupider than I gave you credit. OK answer these questions if you can or if you dare.
1) Was the fossil record made up and written by men?
No. Duh.
You gotta be kidding wrote:
2) What was the surface temperature of the earth 6000 years ago?
About the same it is today. Duh.
You gotta be kidding wrote:
3) Where in the BIBLE does it say or indicate that the world is flat?\
You don't know the buy bull very well. Well, in Isaiah it talks about the circle of the earth, and the heavens being like a tent. And at one point Jesus and Satan go to the top of a mountain, and Satan shows him ALL the kingdoms of earth. That would only be possible if the earth was flat.
You gotta be kidding wrote:
4) Why could the creator not have modified the DNA of man to make the DNA of woman?
It could have. But that doesn't change the fact that the story in Genesis was made up by Bronze Age goat herders who didn't know about DNA, and that's why there is that big problem with the story.
You gotta be kidding wrote:
Go on be brave and answer these simple questions. They are actually all I have been asking you to answer which you have not yet done.
I've answered them. Duh.
You gotta be kidding

Auckland, New Zealand

#6783 Mar 8, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
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So you would kill strippers.
Even though stripping is a total perversion and against the Torah of GOD it is not punishable by death
You gotta be kidding

Auckland, New Zealand

#6784 Mar 8, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>
That is not the way it works. You have made a claim and expect us to believe you. It is now up to you to state your case.
Look around the world and read the BIBLE. Then read a science text book with an open mind and see the stupidity it contains concerning evolution.
You gotta be kidding

Auckland, New Zealand

#6785 Mar 8, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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Another so-called "Christian."
Yet you don't follow the rules of your book.
If you read the posts you would know that I am not a Christian.
You gotta be kidding

Auckland, New Zealand

#6786 Mar 8, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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1. You personally counted every planet? How many planets are there?
2. Scientist have evidence to support that theory, you have no evidence to support your belief in a god, and yet you say it appeared out of thin air as well.
That's called contradicting yourself.
3. There is no evidence whatsoever of a great flood, there is in fact evidence against it, as people were living around that time and lived through that time.
Besides, in your "expert" opinion (giggling a little over here), where did the dinosaur bones come from?
They just magically appeared in the water?
From your horribly misinformed comments, I can surmise that you don't believe dinosaurs ever existed, even though there is plenty of proof behind them and it is a plain fact that they existed.
No I have not personally counted every planet, what an utterly absurd thing to say.

If any scientist has real evidence for evolution they sure are hiding it well. No one else seems to know it.

99% of known fossils, all sedentary rock, multiple rock layers all point to the flood.

For your information the bones come from dead animals. By the way who ever said that the dinosaurs never existed?
You gotta be kidding

Auckland, New Zealand

#6787 Mar 8, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
Actual facts:
1. Evolution is proven.
2. The approximate age of Earth is 6.4 billion years.
3. No one was made from sand, then cloned through a person's rib, in order to then have incest and populate the world.
4. Facts, science, knowledge, intelligence, and common sense, all prove and have proved the bible wrong in many cases.
Again, to you crazy fundies, knowledge threatens you. Because there's a difference between belief and knowledge; god is belief, science is knowledge.
Ok now prove the lies you just posted. That is all I have been asking all along.
1) Post the so called evidence that proves evolution is 100% true and accurate.

2) Prove your extreme earth age to within a million years.
3) Prove man and woman were not created as stated in the BIBLE.
4) Show where any science has disproved the BIBLE.

There you have it now do it.
You gotta be kidding

Auckland, New Zealand

#6788 Mar 8, 2013
Very Cynical Person wrote:
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You know that is not true, if you could produce evidence for this god you would, because all that see the evidence would believe. There would be no atheist if you could provide the evidence and supporting factual and verifiable proof.
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Again this is a copout, because you cannot provide what you state above. That is what is considered a lie.
A lie is something that you know is not true.
If it is not a lie then you believe it to be true.
If you believe it to be true then you can and will proved proof to justify the statement.
If you cannot prove or justify the statement then it falls into the category of a lie.
I make no claims it is you that make the claims, so it befalls you to provide the support for your claims.
Read the BIBLE walk on the grass GOD created look at the eco-systems He put in place there you have evidence, while you are at it, look at the human eye, the bacterial flagellum. All created by GOD.

By your own admission evolution is a lie. THANKS

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