Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

[Rose_NoHo]

Langoliers wrote:

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"But you made it sound as if that was something Milton believed"
Because I said to quote Milton?
LOL

Yes.
And you are too dumb to understand why.

[Pietro Armando]

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

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He also organized his church like the mafia, replete with a "God Father". Just sayin ....

Now that mi amico was funny....ya know I had thought of that in the past. Jesus would be the capo, or maybe the underboss, the disciples his lieutenants. God would be the capo di tutti capi.

"Godfather"...I like that. Salud!

[Fitz]

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

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The vast majority of Hitler's followers were also Christian. He led a Christian nation. THAT is a matter of historical record.

So your admiting to the historical accuracy of Nazi ideology as taken verbatim from books like tabel talk?

You dont seem to know much about the subject matter your discussing..your only interest seems to be in charging Christianity, meanwhile its clear that the Nazi's themselves abhored Christianity.

"National Socialism and Religion cannot exist together..
The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The delibrate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity...Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things"*

*- Aldoph Hitler Aug 1940

[Ooogah Boogah]

Fitz wrote:

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So your admiting to the historical accuracy of Nazi ideology as taken verbatim from books like tabel talk?
You dont seem to know much about the subject matter your discussing..your only interest seems to be in charging Christianity, meanwhile its clear that the Nazi's themselves abhored Christianity.
"National Socialism and Religion cannot exist together..
The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The delibrate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity...Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things"*
*- Aldoph Hitler Aug 1940

What you aren't "getting" is that Table Talk was a translation of a translation of a translation.

If you've ever played the game "gossip" or "telephone" you should know why that is a problem. Table Talk is about as reliable a version of history as the Buy Bull is. Which is to say not reliable at all.

[Fitz]

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

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What you aren't "getting" is that Table Talk was a translation of a translation of a translation.
If you've ever played the game "gossip" or "telephone" you should know why that is a problem. Table Talk is about as reliable a version of history as the Buy Bull is. Which is to say not reliable at all.

What you dont get is that Nazi ideology is well known and its anti-christian foundations are evident in multiple works besides table talk. And tabel talk has been directly translated fro the original German version that was kept by the SS because they wanted a record of Hitlers candid conversations because their regime would last a thousand years and all that.

Its not like there's a whole lot of room for ambiguity in these remarks regardless of your (false) belief about the veracity of the translations.

Your opinion on this subject comes from a unatrributed website specifically designed by atheists of no real stautus to fuel anti-religious prejudice.. The fact that you believe this little website and not mainstream scholars and academics says more about your prejudice needing validation than anything else.

[Reason Personified]

Langoliers wrote:

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You know nothing of Christianity.
Ignorance is bliss and you're a very bliss person.

I >> KNOW << Christainity!

It is the bible, that I reference. Why don't you know what's in it?

[Ooogah Boogah]

Fitz wrote:

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What you dont get is that Nazi ideology is well known and its anti-christian foundations are evident in multiple works besides table talk. And tabel talk has been directly translated fro the original German version that was kept by the SS because they wanted a record of Hitlers candid conversations because their regime would last a thousand years and all that.
Its not like there's a whole lot of room for ambiguity in these remarks regardless of your (false) belief about the veracity of the translations.
Your opinion on this subject comes from a unatrributed website specifically designed by atheists of no real stautus to fuel anti-religious prejudice.. The fact that you believe this little website and not mainstream scholars and academics says more about your prejudice needing validation than anything else.

You can make all the (false) claims you want about Nazism and Hitler, the fact remains the the vast majority of Hitler/Nazi supporters and followers were Christian. That's a fact and there is no denying it! Deal with it!!

[Fitz]

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

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You can make all the (false) claims you want about Nazism and Hitler, the fact remains the the vast majority of Hitler/Nazi supporters and followers were Christian. That's a fact and there is no denying it! Deal with it!!

When you start to loose an argument its always tacticly effective to switch the subject.

WWII was of European origin... Of coarse the majority of Nazi's were Chrisian in origin...for that mnatter the majority of British and the United States army that defeated the NAZI's were Christian...and so were the vast majority of Soviets!!!

You have managed to state a "fact" the has zero bearing on the subject.

The undisputed truth amoung serious minds is that Naziism was anti-christian totalitarian racist ideolog rooted in atheism and the will to power.

“Only the Catholic Church protested against the Hitlerian onslaught on liberty. Up till then I had not been interested in the Church, but today I feel a great admiration for the Church, which alone has had the courage to struggle for spiritual truth and moral liberty”

&#8213; Albert Einstein

[Ooogah Boogah]

Fitz wrote:

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When you start to loose an argument its always tacticly effective to switch the subject.
WWII was of European origin... Of coarse the majority of Nazi's were Chrisian in origin...for that mnatter the majority of British and the United States army that defeated the NAZI's were Christian...and so were the vast majority of Soviets!!!
You have managed to state a "fact" the has zero bearing on the subject.
The undisputed truth amoung serious minds is that Naziism was anti-christian totalitarian racist ideolog rooted in atheism and the will to power.
“Only the Catholic Church protested against the Hitlerian onslaught on liberty. Up till then I had not been interested in the Church, but today I feel a great admiration for the Church, which alone has had the courage to struggle for spiritual truth and moral liberty”
&#8213; Albert Einstein

The fact that both sides were Christian demonstrates that Christianity is not useful in guiding morality for anyone.

[Pietro Armando]

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

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The fact that both sides were Christian demonstrates that Christianity is not useful in guiding morality for anyone.

I don't think that's what it demonstrates. Christians are human too.....and capable of cruelty as well as benevolence, as anyone else.

[Fitz]

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

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The fact that both sides were Christian demonstrates that Christianity is not useful in guiding morality for anyone.

As discussed, both sides were not Christian.. It was the atheist Nazi's and the Atheist communists who are responsible for millions and millions of deaths of inocent civilians.

Back during the age of faith, when Europe was dominated by the Christian worldview there were still wars but you did not get States killing their own citizens in atheistc utopian fervors like the holocuast or the communist purges, or Maoism or Pol Pot, the list goes on...& on...& on...

The fact of the matter is atheists cant root human life as being sacred, much like abortion or euthiasia, or eugenics...

Atheism will never eplace religion because atheists cant defend human life and their track record proves it.

"with the nobelst of intentions Hanns Kerrl wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socalism and Christianity. I dont believe th thing is possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself...Pure Christianity - the Christianity of the catacombs - is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics."

Aldoph Hitler July 1935

[MUQ]

Ooogah B wrote:

01. Not true. If "the creator" himself passes judgment on his own creation by declaring it bad or wrong and even "punishing" it, then we know the creation was flawed because it is not what the creator wanted.

02. If the creator created something he did not intend to create, that by definition is a flawed creator and therefore not a legitimate God.

03. If an omniscient, omnipotent God creates something, then it will be exactly as he intended and the idea of wrath or punishment would be nonsense.

Ans.

01. This is a very flawed logic. God punishes humans for not following His orders and going against His wishes. That is what human life is all about. If there was no "freedom in choice" then what sort of test is it?

God gave humans the "best shape" that can be imagined and gave him the powers of seeing, speaking and understanding and then showed him the right path thru the prophets.

Now some humans using the free will followed the path of prophets and followed the guidance (that proved that it was not "impossible" to follow these guidelines" and another using the same power of choice, laughed at the message and ridiculed at prophets and even God Himself.

Now at the end of "exam" period, both groups appear before God for their evaluation?

What should He do? Pass both of them? Fail Both of them? Tell them it does not matter what choice you made, it is goody, goody.

Or Blame Himself, why He created some one who made bad choice?

So you entire logic is based on false logic.

You want to blame your own free choice on God and asking Him why did He allow you to make wrong choice?

What prevents you from accepting the truth and streamline your life as millions have done before you and millions shall do after you?

[Bob of Quantum-Faith]

MUQ wrote:

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Ans.
01. This is ...

You continue to fail to explain why your Moohumud was a child-raping pedophile illiterate drug user.

Why is that?

[Givemeliberty]

Suicide bombers for one.

MUQ wrote:

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What prevents you from accepting the truth and streamline your life as millions have done before you and millions shall do after you?

[-Skeptic-]

Fitz wrote:

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So your admiting to the historical accuracy of Nazi ideology as taken verbatim from books like tabel talk?
You dont seem to know much about the subject matter your discussing..your only interest seems to be in charging Christianity, meanwhile its clear that the Nazi's themselves abhored Christianity.
"National Socialism and Religion cannot exist together..
The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The delibrate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity...Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things"*
*- Aldoph Hitler Aug 1940

It's amazing how they brainwash you in your cults. Try these quotes:

"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." Adolf Hitler

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited. " Adolf Hitler

Keep talking you lying theists, you are a great advertisement for atheism.

[-Skeptic-]

MUQ wrote:

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Ans.
01. This is a very flawed logic. God punishes humans for not following His orders and going against His wishes. That is what human life is all about. If there was no "freedom in choice" then what sort of test is it?
God gave humans the "best shape" that can be imagined and gave him the powers of seeing, speaking and understanding and then showed him the right path thru the prophets.
Now some humans using the free will followed the path of prophets and followed the guidance (that proved that it was not "impossible" to follow these guidelines" and another using the same power of choice, laughed at the message and ridiculed at prophets and even God Himself.
Now at the end of "exam" period, both groups appear before God for their evaluation?
What should He do? Pass both of them? Fail Both of them? Tell them it does not matter what choice you made, it is goody, goody.
Or Blame Himself, why He created some one who made bad choice?
So you entire logic is based on false logic.
You want to blame your own free choice on God and asking Him why did He allow you to make wrong choice?
What prevents you from accepting the truth and streamline your life as millions have done before you and millions shall do after you?

The only logic that is flawed is that fact that you still have no proof of god, yet are talking about it like it is real.

[BBSting]

The proof is in the puddin'. Non-believers have significantly more lifetime suicide attempts than believers because they have fewer reasons to stay alive. Non-believers exhibit more impulsivity, aggression and substance abuse.

[Thinking]

The 9/11 bombers say otherwise.

BBSting wrote:

The proof is in the puddin'. Non-believers have significantly more lifetime suicide attempts than believers because they have fewer reasons to stay alive. Non-believers exhibit more impulsivity, aggression and substance abuse.

[Langoliers]

Rose_NoHo wrote:

<quoted text>Yes.
And you are too dumb to understand why.

No not at all I see your point now.
I think it's funny that I was careful enough to point out it was from Milton and still someone had issues with it.

[BBSting]

Thinking wrote:

The 9/11 bombers say otherwise.
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9/11 bombers demonstrate that every ideology has its fringe extremists.