Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: News24

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.

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Cute....now pass the vino.
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"Christianity is a rebellion against naturallaw, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of hman failure...The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death...when understanding of the unierse has become widespread..Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity...Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity... And thats why someday its structue will collapse..."

Adolph Hitler July 1941

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Fitz wrote:
"Christianity is a rebellion against naturallaw, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of hman failure...The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death...when understanding of the unierse has become widespread..Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity...Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity... And thats why someday its structue will collapse..."
Adolph Hitler July 1941
More Christian lies. Really not surprising, lying is one of the foundations of Christianity.

From: http://www.nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm

Hitler's Table Talk

Those who deny Hitler as a Christian will invariably find the recorded table talk conversations of Hitler from 1941 to 1944 as incontrovertible evidence that he could not have been a Christian. The source usually comes from the English translation (from a French translation) edition by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens, with an introduction by H.R. Trevor-Roper.

The table-talk has Hitler saying such things such as: "I shall never come to terms with the Christian lie...", "Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity".

The problem with these anti-Christian quotes is that the German text of the table-talk does not include them, they were made up by François Genoud, the translator of the French version, the very version that English translations rely on!
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More Christian lies. Really not surprising, lying is one of the foundations of Christianity.
From: http://www.nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm
Hitler's Table Talk
Those who deny Hitler as a Christian will invariably find the recorded table talk conversations of Hitler from 1941 to 1944 as incontrovertible evidence that he could not have been a Christian. The source usually comes from the English translation (from a French translation) edition by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens, with an introduction by H.R. Trevor-Roper.
The table-talk has Hitler saying such things such as: "I shall never come to terms with the Christian lie...", "Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity".
The problem with these anti-Christian quotes is that the German text of the table-talk does not include them, they were made up by François Genoud, the translator of the French version, the very version that English translations rely on!
Anti-religious bigot who has to deny established and excepted verbatim quotes from Hitler an his follwers in order to uphold the lie that Nazi's and Christianity were compatable.

The problem with this approach is that secular academics in our top universities dont deny the obvious atheism and anti-Christianity at the heart of Nazism, Communism and Fascism.

Mainsteam scholars are well awae that the entire Nazi ideology veiwed Christanity as a jewish plot to weaken the superior Arian race. This is the roots of the ubermarsh and Neicheisms "over-man" and the scenitific racism of neo-darwinian that was so popular amoung progressive Eugenics during that era.

simply a matter of historical recrd...Now lets see how many of your fellow travelers also deny accepted understandings, or if a few choice quotes dont destroy their revisionis history.

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May the pesto sauce be with you!!
And also with you. Remember Jesus was really Italian.

Think about it.

He didn't leave home until he was thirty
He hung out with the same group of guys for years.
He was from the Mediterranean and of olive complexion
He knew how to make vino

The clincher.....he thought his mother was a saint, and she thought he was God!

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<quoted text>But you made it sound as if that was something Milton believed, when it was just a character in a story he wrote, fundi.
Langoliers wrote, "
"Satanists don't even believe Satan "
Oh come on!
"Brilliant? You think so?
First off it's not true.
To quote Milton. "It's better to rule in hell then to serve in heaven""

To quote Doyle, "Some facts should be suppressed".
Langoliers wrote, "
Satanism has many that believe in hell and believe they are going there.
As for the rest those that believe there is a hell also read enough of the book to understand how not to wind up there.
Not really Brilliant, just common sense"
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Study Satanism.
"But you made it sound as if that was something Milton believed"

Because I said to quote Milton?

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Anti-religious bigot who has to deny established and excepted verbatim quotes from Hitler an his follwers in order to uphold the lie that Nazi's and Christianity were compatable.
The problem with this approach is that secular academics in our top universities dont deny the obvious atheism and anti-Christianity at the heart of Nazism, Communism and Fascism.
Mainsteam scholars are well awae that the entire Nazi ideology veiwed Christanity as a jewish plot to weaken the superior Arian race. This is the roots of the ubermarsh and Neicheisms "over-man" and the scenitific racism of neo-darwinian that was so popular amoung progressive Eugenics during that era.
simply a matter of historical recrd...Now lets see how many of your fellow travelers also deny accepted understandings, or if a few choice quotes dont destroy their revisionis history.
The vast majority of Hitler's followers were also Christian. He led a Christian nation. THAT is a matter of historical record.

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And also with you. Remember Jesus was really Italian.
Think about it.
He didn't leave home until he was thirty
He hung out with the same group of guys for years.
He was from the Mediterranean and of olive complexion
He knew how to make vino
The clincher.....he thought his mother was a saint, and she thought he was God!
He also organized his church like the mafia, replete with a "God Father". Just sayin ....

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"But you made it sound as if that was something Milton believed"
Because I said to quote Milton?
LOL
Yes.
And you are too dumb to understand why.

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He also organized his church like the mafia, replete with a "God Father". Just sayin ....
Now that mi amico was funny....ya know I had thought of that in the past. Jesus would be the capo, or maybe the underboss, the disciples his lieutenants. God would be the capo di tutti capi.

"Godfather"...I like that. Salud!
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The vast majority of Hitler's followers were also Christian. He led a Christian nation. THAT is a matter of historical record.
So your admiting to the historical accuracy of Nazi ideology as taken verbatim from books like tabel talk?

You dont seem to know much about the subject matter your discussing..your only interest seems to be in charging Christianity, meanwhile its clear that the Nazi's themselves abhored Christianity.

"National Socialism and Religion cannot exist together..
The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The delibrate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity...Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things"*

*- Aldoph Hitler Aug 1940

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So your admiting to the historical accuracy of Nazi ideology as taken verbatim from books like tabel talk?
You dont seem to know much about the subject matter your discussing..your only interest seems to be in charging Christianity, meanwhile its clear that the Nazi's themselves abhored Christianity.
"National Socialism and Religion cannot exist together..
The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The delibrate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity...Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things"*
*- Aldoph Hitler Aug 1940
What you aren't "getting" is that Table Talk was a translation of a translation of a translation.

If you've ever played the game "gossip" or "telephone" you should know why that is a problem. Table Talk is about as reliable a version of history as the Buy Bull is. Which is to say not reliable at all.
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What you aren't "getting" is that Table Talk was a translation of a translation of a translation.
If you've ever played the game "gossip" or "telephone" you should know why that is a problem. Table Talk is about as reliable a version of history as the Buy Bull is. Which is to say not reliable at all.
What you dont get is that Nazi ideology is well known and its anti-christian foundations are evident in multiple works besides table talk. And tabel talk has been directly translated fro the original German version that was kept by the SS because they wanted a record of Hitlers candid conversations because their regime would last a thousand years and all that.

Its not like there's a whole lot of room for ambiguity in these remarks regardless of your (false) belief about the veracity of the translations.

Your opinion on this subject comes from a unatrributed website specifically designed by atheists of no real stautus to fuel anti-religious prejudice.. The fact that you believe this little website and not mainstream scholars and academics says more about your prejudice needing validation than anything else.

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You know nothing of Christianity.
Ignorance is bliss and you're a very bliss person.
I >> KNOW << Christainity!

It is the bible, that I reference. Why don't you know what's in it?

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What you dont get is that Nazi ideology is well known and its anti-christian foundations are evident in multiple works besides table talk. And tabel talk has been directly translated fro the original German version that was kept by the SS because they wanted a record of Hitlers candid conversations because their regime would last a thousand years and all that.
Its not like there's a whole lot of room for ambiguity in these remarks regardless of your (false) belief about the veracity of the translations.
Your opinion on this subject comes from a unatrributed website specifically designed by atheists of no real stautus to fuel anti-religious prejudice.. The fact that you believe this little website and not mainstream scholars and academics says more about your prejudice needing validation than anything else.
You can make all the (false) claims you want about Nazism and Hitler, the fact remains the the vast majority of Hitler/Nazi supporters and followers were Christian. That's a fact and there is no denying it! Deal with it!!
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You can make all the (false) claims you want about Nazism and Hitler, the fact remains the the vast majority of Hitler/Nazi supporters and followers were Christian. That's a fact and there is no denying it! Deal with it!!
When you start to loose an argument its always tacticly effective to switch the subject.

WWII was of European origin... Of coarse the majority of Nazi's were Chrisian in origin...for that mnatter the majority of British and the United States army that defeated the NAZI's were Christian...and so were the vast majority of Soviets!!!

You have managed to state a "fact" the has zero bearing on the subject.

The undisputed truth amoung serious minds is that Naziism was anti-christian totalitarian racist ideolog rooted in atheism and the will to power.

“Only the Catholic Church protested against the Hitlerian onslaught on liberty. Up till then I had not been interested in the Church, but today I feel a great admiration for the Church, which alone has had the courage to struggle for spiritual truth and moral liberty”

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When you start to loose an argument its always tacticly effective to switch the subject.
WWII was of European origin... Of coarse the majority of Nazi's were Chrisian in origin...for that mnatter the majority of British and the United States army that defeated the NAZI's were Christian...and so were the vast majority of Soviets!!!
You have managed to state a "fact" the has zero bearing on the subject.
The undisputed truth amoung serious minds is that Naziism was anti-christian totalitarian racist ideolog rooted in atheism and the will to power.
“Only the Catholic Church protested against the Hitlerian onslaught on liberty. Up till then I had not been interested in the Church, but today I feel a great admiration for the Church, which alone has had the courage to struggle for spiritual truth and moral liberty”
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The fact that both sides were Christian demonstrates that Christianity is not useful in guiding morality for anyone.

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The fact that both sides were Christian demonstrates that Christianity is not useful in guiding morality for anyone.
I don't think that's what it demonstrates. Christians are human too.....and capable of cruelty as well as benevolence, as anyone else.
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The fact that both sides were Christian demonstrates that Christianity is not useful in guiding morality for anyone.
As discussed, both sides were not Christian.. It was the atheist Nazi's and the Atheist communists who are responsible for millions and millions of deaths of inocent civilians.

Back during the age of faith, when Europe was dominated by the Christian worldview there were still wars but you did not get States killing their own citizens in atheistc utopian fervors like the holocuast or the communist purges, or Maoism or Pol Pot, the list goes on...& on...& on...

The fact of the matter is atheists cant root human life as being sacred, much like abortion or euthiasia, or eugenics...

Atheism will never eplace religion because atheists cant defend human life and their track record proves it.

"with the nobelst of intentions Hanns Kerrl wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socalism and Christianity. I dont believe th thing is possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself...Pure Christianity - the Christianity of the catacombs - is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics."

Aldoph Hitler July 1935
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01. Not true. If "the creator" himself passes judgment on his own creation by declaring it bad or wrong and even "punishing" it, then we know the creation was flawed because it is not what the creator wanted.

02. If the creator created something he did not intend to create, that by definition is a flawed creator and therefore not a legitimate God.

03. If an omniscient, omnipotent God creates something, then it will be exactly as he intended and the idea of wrath or punishment would be nonsense.
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01. This is a very flawed logic. God punishes humans for not following His orders and going against His wishes. That is what human life is all about. If there was no "freedom in choice" then what sort of test is it?

God gave humans the "best shape" that can be imagined and gave him the powers of seeing, speaking and understanding and then showed him the right path thru the prophets.

Now some humans using the free will followed the path of prophets and followed the guidance (that proved that it was not "impossible" to follow these guidelines" and another using the same power of choice, laughed at the message and ridiculed at prophets and even God Himself.

Now at the end of "exam" period, both groups appear before God for their evaluation?

What should He do? Pass both of them? Fail Both of them? Tell them it does not matter what choice you made, it is goody, goody.

Or Blame Himself, why He created some one who made bad choice?

So you entire logic is based on false logic.

You want to blame your own free choice on God and asking Him why did He allow you to make wrong choice?

What prevents you from accepting the truth and streamline your life as millions have done before you and millions shall do after you?

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