Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

[Ooogah Boogah]

Langoliers wrote:

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Yes I was told that the Big Bang was not an explosion.
Ya right it was a slow explosion.
"About 15 billion years ago a tremendous explosion started the expansion of the universe. This explosion is known as the Big Bang."
http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/bigbang.htm
"The energy released in a cosmic gamma-rayburst detected in December 1997 is the most energy ever detected from an explosion in theUniverse, perhaps making it the most powerful explosion since the creation of the Universe in theBig Bang."
http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/features/ne...
"The universe began, scientists believe, with every speck of its energy jammed into a very tiny point. This extremely dense point exploded with unimaginable force, creating matter and propelling it outward to make the billions of galaxies of our vast universe. Astrophysicists dubbed this titanic explosion the Big Bang. "
http://www.exploratorium.edu/origins/cern/ide...
" If all the mass of the universe was compressed into a small volume 15 billion years ago, its density and temperature must have been phenomenal. A tremendous explosion would have caused the start of the expansion,"
http://www.enotes.com/big-bang-theory-referen...

Technically, an "explosion" is a rapid combustion of a fuel.

In that light, the "Big Bang" was clearly not an explosion.

The "Big Bang" was an extremely rapid expansion of the universe's 3 dimensions (maybe even 4 dimensions). The terms "Big Bang" and "explosion" are used as a conceptual "simile" or "metaphor".

But why bother explaining that to you, obviously you are far too simple to comprehend.

[Langoliers]

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

<quoted text>I don't really know the answer to that, no one does ... yet. But since it has never been created nor destroyed, it might well be eternal.

That's the same claim you make of your God ... so if it can be true of your God .... what is this God of yours "made of" or "comprised of" anyway?? Hmmmm???? Maybe the same stuff the entire universe is made of? Pure ENERGY?!?! Imagine that!! If that were true, AND the entire universe is made of Energy ... why was this God needed again???

If energy comprises the entire universe and everything in it and it has always existed, no creator is required.

Don't feel bad no body has that answer.
I'm glad you have no problem believing something was always and will be always.

Your believes are not that different then mine in this respect.

As far as what God is made out of I don't know. Maybe pure energy!

[Langoliers]

polymath257 wrote:

<quoted text>This is a re-post of post #4571 which was refuted in post #4578

Not refuted or debunked just disagreed with.

[Langoliers]

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

<quoted text>Technically, an "explosion" is a rapid combustion of a fuel.

In that light, the "Big Bang" was clearly not an explosion.

The "Big Bang" was an extremely rapid expansion of the universe's 3 dimensions (maybe even 4 dimensions). The terms "Big Bang" and "explosion" are used as a conceptual "simile" or "metaphor".

But why bother explaining that to you, obviously you are far too simple to comprehend.

I just listed a few science articles claiming it was the biggest bang of all.

There are hundreds of them on the web.

However I'm aware of the non explosion rapid expansion model also.

There are also many other Theory's on the beginning of the universe.

[Ooogah Boogah]

Langoliers wrote:

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Don't feel bad no body has that answer.
I'm glad you have no problem believing something was always and will be always.
Your believes are not that different then mine in this respect.
As far as what God is made out of I don't know. Maybe pure energy!

Then again! If energy comprises the entire universe and everything in it and it has always existed, no creator is required.

[albtraum]

Educated What wrote:

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Lol! Just because you say you're 50 doesn't mean you are. It has nothing to do with math, it has a lot to do with you and your lies. Notre Dame was amazing and because of that university I am living a very comfortable living with my businesses. Ashamed of the universities? Who cares what you think? What have you done to help others? What have you done to become a good person? I am probably paying taxes for your Medicare. You're welcome! Now go back and put on your hug me jacket.

I see you are very familiar with making up things as you go along, much like......theists.

[polymath257]

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

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Technically, an "explosion" is a rapid combustion of a fuel.

Not always. I would consider a supernova to be an explosion, but it has no combustion. For that matter, if you puncture a tank of compressed gas, you will get an explosion with no combustion also.

[polymath257]

Langoliers wrote:

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I just listed a few science articles claiming it was the biggest bang of all.
There are hundreds of them on the web.
However I'm aware of the non explosion rapid expansion model also.
There are also many other Theory's on the beginning of the universe.

And what does that *actual* Big Bang theory say? You know, the one used by cosmologists when they are studying the universe? Does *that* model have an expansion of space (not an explosion) or material moving in space away from a center (explosion)? Hint: the *actual* Big Bang theory is based on general relativity.

[Ooogah Boogah]

polymath257 wrote:

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Not always. I would consider a supernova to be an explosion, but it has no combustion. For that matter, if you puncture a tank of compressed gas, you will get an explosion with no combustion also.

Hmmm perhaps I was thinking of the term "detonation".

But "explosion" still does not technically apply because an explosion is a rapid expansion INTO 3D space. The big bang was rapid expansion OF 3D space.

[polymath257]

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

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Hmmm perhaps I was thinking of the term "detonation".
But "explosion" still does not technically apply because an explosion is a rapid expansion INTO 3D space. The big bang was rapid expansion OF 3D space.

I wasn't disagreeing with that aspect, just the claim of combustion being needed for an explosion. Yes, detonation would be different in that.

[01Justsayin]

Less religion. More relationship.

[polymath257]

Langoliers wrote:

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Not refuted or debunked just disagreed with.

Perhaps you prefer an article from NASA:
http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/bb_concepts...

"Please keep in mind the following important points to avoid misconceptions about the Big Bang and expansion:

The Big Bang did not occur at a single point in space as an "explosion." It is better thought of as the simultaneous appearance of space everywhere in the universe. That region of space that is within our present horizon was indeed no bigger than a point in the past. Nevertheless, if all of space both inside and outside our horizon is infinite now, it was born infinite. If it is closed and finite, then it was born with zero volume and grew from that. In neither case is there a "center of expansion" - a point from which the universe is expanding away from. In the ball analogy, the radius of the ball grows as the universe expands, but all points on the surface of the ball (the universe) recede from each other in an identical fashion. The interior of the ball should not be regarded as part of the universe in this analogy.

By definition, the universe encompasses all of space and time as we know it, so it is beyond the realm of the Big Bang model to postulate what the universe is expanding into. In either the open or closed universe, the only "edge" to space-time occurs at the Big Bang (and perhaps its counterpart the Big Crunch), so it is not logically necessary (or sensible) to consider this question.

It is beyond the realm of the Big Bang Model to say what gave rise to the Big Bang. There are a number of speculative theories about this topic, but none of them make realistically testable predictions as of yet."

[Jumper The Wise]

Wow.
And I thought I was slipping into a black hole.

[madscot]

MUQ wrote:

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Do you KNOW the difference between a needle and Universe?
A needle shows you that some "human" made it, whilst this "Universe" shows that it came by "Itself"?
Boy You are really great!!

So you're comparing apples to oranges. WTF else is new?

[madscot]

Langoliers wrote:

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Oh I see, I have yet to hear of a shot being fired that went over the Internet and came out of the computer on the end just where it was intended.
But a science nut could be seen believing this.

Whatever you say dickhat.

[madscot]

Ooogah Boogah wrote:

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Fortunately, there are now also non-religious gun nuts.

True

[MUQ]

River Tam wrote:

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Do you know how to cook?
Do you know how to use a cigarette filter?
Can you cook it on a can?
I can.

Are you a Can?

Vow!!

[MUQ]

madscot wrote:

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So you're comparing apples to oranges. WTF else is new?

Is there "another Universe" to which we should compare "Our Universe"?

Why you play so dumb?

[Educated What]

albtraum wrote:

<quoted text>I see you are very familiar with making up things as you go along, much like......theists.

I see you are prejudice and quick to judge. Look through the thread and you will encounter a lot of atheists making things up. Anyway this is fun.

[madscot]

MUQ wrote:

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Is there "another Universe" to which we should compare "Our Universe"?
Why you play so dumb?

Oh for fu&k sake. You can't compare a needle to the universe. Can you not get that through your dense skull?