Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: News24

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking.
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“saved From jesus”

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#3999 Jan 19, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Bob Jones University, doesn't count. It's mission is to bring those fantasies into full bloom. Favorite fantasies of the staff are Delusion, Full Blown Delusion, Denial and Flat Out Denial. Reality and Truth, are dirty words in those hallowed halls.
Bob Jones will teach you that being a Georgian Orthodox child, will turn you into an atheist, and being an atheist will make you a Communist and a Socialist, along with being a power mad murderer, but it just don't happen often enough to set your watch by.
Any other university will teach you to trust your eyes, especially when historical document, eye witness testimony and pictorial evidence agree with what you are viewing.
"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so" -- Adolf Hitler
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
I read another version on a different thread recently that Hitler was Gay, had a gay army, and gays were responsible for the holocaust. Heh heh

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#3998 Jan 19, 2013
World leaders in archeology? Lmfao!

Sorry I don't know why your preacher told you retard but the historical documentation matches the artifacts perfectly on Nazareth and both show it didn't exist until mid second century. It appears on no maps, tax records, temple records anything before that. But we even have records of small tent settlements and tiny farm communities all properly documented.

As usual you are just wrong.
Langoliers wrote:
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So to you it matters not that world leaders in archeology are uncovering Nazareth ruins and have concluded that Nazareth was indeed a town that existed in the days of Christ. Go Figure!

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#4000 Jan 19, 2013
Argument from authority logical fallacy. These are all merely lip service to the sheer numbers of Christians. I could care less what somebody's opinion of Jesus existence is. All I care about is ACTUAL PROOF. Do you have any ACTUAL PROOF that he existed? A contemporary historian who claimed to have actually seen him, heard him preach perhaps? How about records of his trials with Pilate and Herod? Nope nope and nope.

Cough up proof not opinions or fail.
Langoliers wrote:
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Notice others listed here:
Aliroger1

Toronto, Canada

#4001 Jan 19, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Notice others listed here:

George Bancroft, great American historian
Kindly point to a single peer-reviewed journal article by Bancroft on research he undertook and published on the historicity of the bible and Jesus Christ.

In anticipation of your reference being produced, thank you.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#4002 Jan 19, 2013
You have historic proof that the biblical James and Paul existed and historical proof that they met each other? Do provide this proof, not what someone said but actual proof. Even if Paul existed he never met Jesus and even if we jump to the conclusion that he met some guy named James how can we prove James didn't make the whole thing up? Or they made it up together while drunk?

Bart Ehrnan operates from the assumption Jesus existed and then works backwards.

I will wait for this actual historical proof not just because someone said so.
Langoliers wrote:
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"Paul knew Jesus' brother, James, and he knew his closest disciple, Peter, and he tells us that he did," Ehrman says. "If Jesus didn't exist, you would think his brother would know about it, so I think Paul is probably pretty good evidence that Jesus at least existed"

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#4003 Jan 19, 2013
Aliroger1 wrote:
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Kindly point to a single peer-reviewed journal article by Bancroft on research he undertook and published on the historicity of the bible and Jesus Christ.
In anticipation of your reference being produced, thank you.
Can you provide one review that supports the lies told in the koran?

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#4004 Jan 19, 2013
Religionthebiglie wrote:
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I'm a restaurateur, and I rule the staff with an iron fist, like HITLER.(kidding) Actually I love my staff. I finally have a competent manager, so I can actually have a night off here and there. The cliche` "good help is hard to find" is spot on.
Nice!

I worked for quite some time in the restaurant industry and eventually ended up being that manager :) who got the owner to take nights off.

I actually miss being a server...totally fun to interact with all those people! And give them alcohol.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#4005 Jan 19, 2013
Religionthebiglie wrote:
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I'll give you the predictable theist response. Missing link, missing link, missing link.
hahaha - that would miss the point miss the point miss the point.

:)
Aliroger1

Toronto, Canada

#4006 Jan 19, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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"I see. So you want to see family level evolution, which tends to take millions of years in the wild, happen in a single generation, or even a few hundred generations? You don't see the problem with this???"
No not at all. I just want proof of it.
SCIENCE DOES NOT PROVIDE "PROOF" OF THINGS

Modern science is probabilistic, not deterministic. Furthermore, the mindset in science is skepticism and disproving, rather than proving. A theory is conceived and conceptualized. Based on that theory, hypotheses are formulated with predictions about the relationships between variables. Experiments or correlations are done to test the hypotheses. A key concept is to have a null hypothesis which states there is no relationship between the variables. Statistical methods are used to evaluate the data. For there to be significance and proof of the relationship between variables to be what was predicted, the results have to be statistically significant and the null hypothesis needs to be false. If the hypothesis is supported by the results, then there is more confidence in the theory providing a good explanation of what is observed, but theories can never be proved to be universally true. The intent is the opposite in science--to disprove a theory! Science is a self-correcting field where mistakes and errors in concept are disproved and a new theory takes its place, or, more often, and earlier theory is found to be more limited and true only within certain contexts and boundaries, and not outside of those boundaries (eg Newtonian mechanics versus quantum mechanics). Your "proof" approach demonstrates an ignorance of what modern science is and the methods and philosophy that underpin the methods and meanings.
There is obviously a lack of educational rigor that ill-informed people like you are being produced by the schools.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#4007 Jan 20, 2013
You mean the woman who always blathers on about Mary's well? Lol.... Lol.... Lmfao...rotflmfao.... Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!

Ok ok I'm ok now ahem pfffffffftttttttty bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!!

The same group of hucksters who tossed in some ancient coins to try to make it look legit and were later humiliated and busted by actual experts in the field!? Hahahaha that Yardenna Alexandre?

Hahahaha! Nice try retard! What next the shroud of Turin maybe?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!
Langoliers wrote:
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According to Yardenna Alexandre,.
Aliroger1

Toronto, Canada

#4008 Jan 20, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
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Can you provide one review that supports the lies told in the koran?
SHEILA, YOUR FANATICAL CAMPAIGN FOR THE SUPREMACY OF JESUS IS NOT THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD. You need to go to the "I LUV JEEBUS" thread where you can wallow in your misery, bile and fetid ignorance.

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#4009 Jan 20, 2013
Aliroger1 wrote:
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SHEILA, YOUR FANATICAL CAMPAIGN FOR THE SUPREMACY OF JESUS IS NOT THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD. You need to go to the "I LUV JEEBUS" thread where you can wallow in your misery, bile and fetid ignorance.
So does that mean that you can provide no evidence to support false claims?

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#4010 Jan 20, 2013
Aren't all Christians neo-pagans? I mean god impregnates a virgin who gives birth to this Demi god son who wows everyone as a child with his wisdom and abilities, grows up to have followers, performs magic trick miracles, dies and raises from the grave and later ascends to the heavens in front if his followers, eating bread and drinking wine symbolizes his flesh and blood. I could go on and on but all of these are pagan rituals from centuries before the Jesus myth.
Langoliers wrote:
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"Hitler was a neo-pagan terrorist

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#4011 Jan 20, 2013
Aliroger1 wrote:
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SHEILA, YOUR FANATICAL CAMPAIGN FOR THE SUPREMACY OF JESUS IS NOT THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD. You need to go to the "I LUV JEEBUS" thread where you can wallow in your misery, bile and fetid ignorance.
THE ERROR AND ORIGINS OF THE
MUSLIM RELIGION -- ISLAM
Based upon a text written by Dr. Robert Morey
edited by MF Blume



Where Did Allah Come From?
Muslims worship a god by the name of Allah. They also give him ninety-nine other names.
The question that naturally arises is who or what is this Allah?
Where did the Muslims derive their ideas of Allah's nature and attributes?

Historical Source of Islam


Historians, linguists, and archeologists have dug into this question for over a century. Various archeological digs in Arabia and throughout the Middle East have uncovered the answer: Islam is a modern version of the ancient fertility religion of the moon god. Once this is grasped, the rise and history of Islam becomes clear.

The Arab conquests were made possible because the central powers in the Middle East had exhausted themselves in wars against each other. They were not able to fight off wave after wave of Arab armies which subdued entire nations with merciless slaughter, rape and plunder.

Conquering Armies


The Arabs destroyed some of the wonders of the ancient world such as the world famous library in Alexandria, Egypt, They destroyed many ancient churches and synagogues. Anthropologists have recorded how the Arabs destroyed the cultural
heritage of any nation which fell under their sword.

Who were these Arabs? They obviously were not Christians because they destroyed churches and murdered priests wherever they went. Obviously, they were not Jews because they persecuted Jews without pity. This is seen today in their hatred of Israel and the many wars and acts of terrorism waged against Jews throughout the world.

If the Arab hordes which swept over the ancient world were not Christians or Jews, then what were they? They were pagans who worshipped a pagan god called Allah and followed pagan rites which were practiced in Arabia long before the religion of Islam evolved.

Islam Denies God


These facts of history reveal that Islam does not worship the same God worshipped by Christians. Why?

Christians worship one God and Muslims worship a different deity called Allah, who did not robe himself in flesh and come to earth to die for us. He has no son, begotton or otherwise.

Since the religion found in the Bible teaches that God is The Creator, the savior and the comforter it does not take a Ph.D. to see that Islam did not come from the Bible. Thus it is not the religion of the biblical prophets, apostles or Jesus.

Pagan Origins


Similar to the origins of other false doctrines, Islam's origins have been traced back by scholars to the ancient fertility religion of the worship of the moon god which was always the dominant religion of Arabia. The moon god was worshipped by praying toward Mecca several times a day, making an annual pilgrimage to the Kabah which was a temple of the moon god, running around the Kabah seven times, caressing an idol of a black stone set in the wall of the Kabah, running between two hills, making animal sacrifices, gathering on Fridays for prayers, giving alms to the poor, etc.. These were pagan rites practiced by the Arabs long before Muhammad was born.

Some Muslims may point to the so-called Christian feasts of Christmas and Easter being pagan in origins. I agree. They are pagan in origin! That is the reason I teach people to not indulge in Christmas and Easter as a form of worship to God, because the New Testament teaches that we are not to observe any holy days, or months or years (Gal. 4:10-11). Keeping Christmas and Easter as a non-religious time of gift-giving is okay. But we do not worship God with it.

To be continued
Aliroger1

Toronto, Canada

#4012 Jan 20, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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According to Yardenna Alexandre, excavation director on behalf of the Israel Antiquities Authority,“The discovery is of the utmost importance since it reveals for the very first time a house from the Jewish village of Nazareth and thereby sheds light on the way of life at the time of Jesus. The building that we found is small and modest and it is most likely typical of the dwellings in Nazareth in that period. From the few written sources that there are, we know that in the first century CE Nazareth was a small Jewish village, located inside a valley. Until now a number of tombs from the time of Jesus were found in Nazareth; however, no settlement remains have been discovered that are attributed to this period”.
In the excavation a large broad wall that dates to the Mamluk period (the fifteenth century CE) was exposed that was constructed on top of and “utilized” the walls of an ancinet building. This earlier building consisted of two rooms and a courtyard in which there was a rock-hewn cistern into which the rainwater was conveyed. The artifacts recovered from inside the building were few and mostly included fragments of pottery vessels from the Early Roman period (the first and second centuries CE). In addition, several fragments of chalk vessels were found, which were only used by Jews in this period because such vessels were not susceptible to becoming ritually unclean.
More lies.
The truth about Nazareth is here http://www.nazarethmyth.info/bibl.html
Aliroger1

Toronto, Canada

#4014 Jan 20, 2013
Sheilaa wrote:
<quoted text>
THE ERROR AND ORIGINS OF THE
MUSLIM RELIGION -- ISLAM
Based upon a text written by Dr. Robert Morey
edited by MF Blume
Where Did Allah Come From?
Muslims worship a god by the name of Allah. They also give him ninety-nine other names.
The question that naturally arises is who or what is this Allah?
Where did the Muslims derive their ideas of Allah's nature and attributes?
Historical Source of Islam
Historians, linguists, and archeologists have dug into this question for over a century. Various archeological digs in Arabia and throughout the Middle East have uncovered the answer: Islam is a modern version of the ancient fertility religion of the moon god. Once this is grasped, the rise and history of Islam becomes clear.
The Arab conquests were made possible because the central powers in the Middle East had exhausted themselves in wars against each other. They were not able to fight off wave after wave of Arab armies which subdued entire nations with merciless slaughter, rape and plunder.
Conquering Armies
The Arabs destroyed some of the wonders of the ancient world such as the world famous library in Alexandria, Egypt, They destroyed many ancient churches and synagogues. Anthropologists have recorded how the Arabs destroyed the cultural
heritage of any nation which fell under their sword.
Who were these Arabs? They obviously were not Christians because they destroyed churches and murdered priests wherever they went. Obviously, they were not Jews because they persecuted Jews without pity. This is seen today in their hatred of Israel and the many wars and acts of terrorism waged against Jews throughout the world.
If the Arab hordes which swept over the ancient world were not Christians or Jews, then what were they? They were pagans who worshipped a pagan god called Allah and followed pagan rites which were practiced in Arabia long before the religion of Islam evolved.
Islam Denies God
These facts of history reveal that Islam does not worship the same God worshipped by Christians. Why?
Christians worship one God and Muslims worship a different deity called Allah, who did not robe himself in flesh and come to earth to die for us. He has no son, begotton or otherwise.
Since the religion found in the Bible teaches that God is The Creator, the savior and the comforter it does not take a Ph.D. to see that Islam did not come from the Bible. Thus it is not the religion of the biblical prophets, apostles or Jesus.
Pagan Origins
Similar to the origins of other false doctrines, Islam's origins have been traced back by scholars to the ancient fertility religion of the worship of the moon god which was always the dominant religion of Arabia. The moon god was worshipped by praying toward Mecca several times a day, making an annual pilgrimage to the Kabah which was a temple of the moon god, running around the Kabah seven times, caressing an idol of a black stone set in the wall of the Kabah, running between two hills, making animal sacrifices, gathering on Fridays for prayers, giving alms to the poor, etc.. These were pagan rites practiced by the Arabs long before Muhammad was born.
Some Muslims may point to the so-called Christian feasts of Christmas and Easter being pagan in origins. I agree. They are pagan in origin! That is the reason I teach people to not indulge in Christmas and Easter as a form of worship to God, because the New Testament teaches that we are not to observe any holy days, or months or years (Gal. 4:10-11). Keeping Christmas and Easter as a non-religious time of gift-giving is okay. But we do not worship God with it.
To be continued
SHEILA, YOUR POST IS OFF-TOPIC. You are like Muck. I hope that those who complain of Muck will now act on this creature Sheila who does not respect the thread topics but who insists on posting her spam everywhere.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#4013 Jan 20, 2013
You don't have the right to flood threads with your off topic walls of spam text. It seems as if you cannot handle the pinch of salt from our questions and by the way how are our questions not honest?

Let's look at the questions you cower from like a weakling.

Do you believe Muslim suicide bombers go to heaven? How is this dishonest? This is a valid question and concern several have about Muslims. Again all you would have to do is say, no of course not all Muslim suicide bombers are doomed to hell. Unless of course you cheer and approve of Muslim suicide bombers that is the only reason for you to refuse to answer this.

When will Muslims stop mutilating the genitals of little girls? Again all you would have to do if you disagree with the practice is say so. Or if you as most likely agree with it say you approve of the mutilation of little girls genitals.

What about the holy she-camel of Allah? This one is the most puzzling because Muslims are commanded to rejoice and praise every word in the Quran as the sacred holy words of Allah. It is a sin to deny or hide from a single word in the Quran. Yet this is exactly what you do! When you refuse to speak when asked about actual words in the Quran according to your faith you are shunning the words of the prophet and Allah! This is a sin that to some Muslims is worthy of hell.

Yet these words in the Quran shame you as you repeatedly hide in humiliation from them. Perhaps this is a good thing because if you are brought to great shame by the words in the Quran about the holy she-camel of Allah perhaps you are not as devout as you thought. Perhaps you do not truly accept the words of the prophet as you demonstrate here. If you are brought to shame by these words I wonder how many other millions of Muslims are brought to game by these words as well ?

It's a start.
MUQ wrote:
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I have RIGHT to answer any question or not. You cannot force me to answer any question, neither can I.
It is YOUR version that you ask honest and direct questions, while I think that neither the questions are honest nor direct. You want to get confirmation of your own warped minds from me.
So you should get on with the topic, I answer or I do not answer is not the question.
You should not threaten me to stop posting in my ways. I will post whatever I like in whatever way I like.
I post is civil language and I post in logical and reasonable manner, that is what is needed on these public threads.
try to adjust to your pinch of salt is my advice to you and your gang members.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#4015 Jan 20, 2013
Horsesht. We have historical secular proof for Jesus Ben pandira son of a Jewish woman raped by a roman soldier who was a messiah figure had a following executed by the Romans and his followers. Ditto with Jesus Ben strada the so called evil Egyptian wizard messiah figure had a following performed miracles was said to raise the dead and walk on water executed by the Romans and his followers. Ditto with hundreds of other messiah type figures at that time walking around Palestine proclaiming to do miracles and be the messiah. Yet or all the secular proven historical data we have for all these small timers we lack a shred of contemporary historical proof for this Jesus of the NT figure or any of his biblical apostles. Not one.
Fitz wrote:
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You dont need to argue a point as basic as the existance of Jesus as an historical figure. The only reason its even up for debate is because of WHO he is. Multiple historical figures from antiquity cant be "proven" to have existed by their standards of evidence.
Yet these figures existance is not in dispute, and neither is Jeusus's. This is simply a gambit by anti-religious bigots.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#4016 Jan 20, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Horsesht. We have historical secular proof for Jesus Ben pandira son of a Jewish woman raped by a roman soldier who was a messiah figure had a following executed by the Romans and his followers. Ditto with Jesus Ben strada the so called evil Egyptian wizard messiah figure had a following performed miracles was said to raise the dead and walk on water executed by the Romans and his followers. Ditto with hundreds of other messiah type figures at that time walking around Palestine proclaiming to do miracles and be the messiah. Yet or all the secular proven historical data we have for all these small timers we lack a shred of contemporary historical proof for this Jesus of the NT figure or any of his biblical apostles. Not one.
<quoted text>
Why would you believe a book of myths? All the Bible does is proclaim itself to be true. How do we know it's true? Well, it's divinely inspired. How do we know that the Bible is divinely inspired? Because it tells us!

So...how do we know the Bible is accurate?

Oh...the Bible tells us it is, and it's the word of God, so it must be.

Right, so how do we know that the Bible is accurate?

This is why I don't trust religion to provide answers. You guys don't seem to have a functional understanding of logic.

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

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#4017 Jan 20, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Nice!
I worked for quite some time in the restaurant industry and eventually ended up being that manager :) who got the owner to take nights off.
I actually miss being a server...totally fun to interact with all those people! And give them alcohol.
Ha ha ha, The drinking customers are the most fun, as long as they're not obnoxious, they're the best tippers, and they spend a lots of money.

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