Why Atheism Will Replace Religion

Aug 27, 2012 Full story: News24 14,385

Please note that for this article "Atheism" also includes agnostics, deists, pagans, wiccans... in other words non-religious.

You will notice this is a statement of fact. And to be fact it is supported by evidence (see references below). Now you can have "faith" that this is not true, but by the very definition of faith, that is just wishful thinking. Full Story
Lincoln

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#3918 Jan 19, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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There is no evidence that Jesus existed. Paul never met Jesus and Christians are always calling each other "brother", it means nothing.
No evidence is a bit strong!
Most historians seem to accept a historical Jesus.
Does seem to trouble atheists

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#3919 Jan 19, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>Does evolution somehow indicate atheism is logical?
No but they believe that evolution proves that God did not create so then there must not be a God.

They are very frustrated with the lack of evidence for macro evolution. When you consider by their theory all life is a product of macro evolution yet there is no proof, not one instant of Marco Evolution has been proven. Wouldn't you think if macro evolution was real and all life on earth was the product of it that they could come up with some proof?

“Waytogo”

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#3920 Jan 19, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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No but they believe that evolution proves that God did not create so then there must not be a God.
They are very frustrated with the lack of evidence for macro evolution. When you consider by their theory all life is a product of macro evolution yet there is no proof, not one instant of Marco Evolution has been proven. Wouldn't you think if macro evolution was real and all life on earth was the product of it that they could come up with some proof?
Where is creationist proof of there god and creation myth???????

“Think&Care”

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#3921 Jan 19, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
To solve this, advocates of the Big Bang Theory claim that the singularity that blew up in a sudden big bang was spinning before it exploded"
www.truthandscience.net/thebigbang.htm
Big Bang theorists claim the original singularity was spinning faster and faster until it exploded and then ..."
LOL! You get your information from a site that clearly has no foundations in science at all. I said that I had not seen the 'spinning singularity' idea *in a scientific context*. And no, the Big Bang theorists do NOT make any claim about anything spinning before hand.

“Think&Care”

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#3922 Jan 19, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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A fossil can only be proof of what once lived. It cannot tell you or anyone what it planned on turning into. A transition fossil is nothing more the a fossil of what once lived. Science can Guess at the probabilities that it used to be this animal and later became that animal. There is noway a fossil can prove it came from one kind of animal or another. A fossil is only proof of what it was once was.
So you ignore the evidence and refuse to actually *think* about what it means. Instead you prefer your superstitions and ignorance.

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#3923 Jan 19, 2013
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong. Macroevolution is defined as changes at or above the level of species.

The cats named earlier are not distinct species, they are from different genuses, and different subfamilies.

That's THREE LEVELS above microevolution.
Nope. All Cats are one Kind.
All dogs, wolfs, foxes, are one Kind.

Macro evolution breaks the Kind barrier.
As in a single cell life form some day creating a Tree on one branch and a Man on another branch.
Trees and humans are of different Kinds.

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#3924 Jan 19, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Nope.
There is no 'nope'. You are factually wrong. Macroevolution is change at species or above.

You claim involves changes at the species, genus, and subfamily levels. All of those changes would be macroevolution.
Langoliers wrote:
All Cats are one Kind.
All dogs, wolfs, foxes, are one Kind.
Macro evolution breaks the Kind barrier.
There is no 'kind barrier' as we've seen that 'kind' is a meaningless term whose definition changes whenever convenient for Creationists.

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#3925 Jan 19, 2013
Fitz wrote:
<quoted text>You dont need to argue a point as basic as the existance of Jesus as an historical figure. The only reason its even up for debate is because of WHO he is. Multiple historical figures from antiquity cant be "proven" to have existed by their standards of evidence.

Yet these figures existance is not in dispute, and neither is Jeusus's. This is simply a gambit by anti-religious bigots.
You're correct I should not have in gauged something so ridicules.

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#3926 Jan 19, 2013
The_Box wrote:
<quoted text>Yawn. Is this the kind of discussion I can expect from you? I ask a question and you post a wall of text that is completely irrelevant to said question?
Question?
You posted the the cats were three levels above micro evolution. That was a claim. I post to refute your claim.
I see now I need not bother with you.

Sense you're yawning I'll bid you good night. Get some sleep.

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Santa Monica, CA

#3927 Jan 19, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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"Paul knew Jesus' brother, James, and he knew his closest disciple, Peter, and he tells us that he did," Ehrman says. "If Jesus didn't exist, you would think his brother would know about it, so I think Paul is probably pretty good evidence that Jesus at least existed"
Those are all Paul's claims, and Paul never even met Jesus.

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Santa Monica, CA

#3928 Jan 19, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Jesus existing complicates atheism in some way based on posts.
Actually, it doesn't, if by Jesus you mean a street preacher from the 1st Century who acquired a following. But the lack of the Jesus described in the gospels totally destroys all but a very few sects of Christianity.

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#3929 Jan 19, 2013
ToManyLaws wrote:
<quoted text>Where is creationist proof of there god and creation myth???????
Dolt!

Science deals ( at least they claim ) with facts. Faith has never claimed proof. LOL. What at idiot.

“Waytogo”

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#3930 Jan 19, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Dolt!
Science deals ( at least they claim ) with facts. Faith has never claimed proof. LOL. What at idiot.
LOL...So you want PROOF 100% PROOF OF EVOLUTION AND YET YOU WILL TAKE RELIGION AND CREATIONISM ON FAITH?????????

Insane much??????????

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#3931 Jan 19, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Question?
You posted the the cats were three levels above micro evolution. That was a claim. I post to refute your claim.
I see now I need not bother with you.
Sense you're yawning I'll bid you good night. Get some sleep.
IOW "The_Box" handed your backside to you on a platter.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

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#3932 Jan 19, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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No evidence is a bit strong!
Most historians seem to accept a historical Jesus.
Does seem to trouble atheists
Most "Biblical Historians" who are not historians at all but religious zealots calling themselves historians.

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#3933 Jan 19, 2013
ToManyLaws wrote:
<quoted text>LOL...So you want PROOF 100% PROOF OF EVOLUTION AND YET YOU WILL TAKE RELIGION AND CREATIONISM ON FAITH?????????

Insane much??????????
Yes because science is not a religion is it? Science deals in fact right? Science has provable theory's right?

Religion is faith base. No proof required. Deal with it.

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#3934 Jan 19, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>IOW "The_Box" handed your backside to you on a platter.
What is the color of the sky's in your world?

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#3935 Jan 19, 2013
Flaws of the Big Bang

The Big Bang Theory has some significant problems. First of all, the Big Bang Theory does not address the question: "Where did everything come from?" Can nothing explode? This contradicts to the 1st Law of Thermodynamics (the Law of Conservation of Matter). Where did Space, Time, Matter, and Energy come from? Next, how did this explosion / "expansion" cause order while every explosion ever observed and documented in history caused only disorder and chaos? Consequently, the Big Bang seemingly violates the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics (the Law of Increased Entropy). What organized the universe after the singularity?

Besides conflicting with the 1st and 2nd Laws of Thermodynamics, the Big Bang Theory contradicts the Law of Conservation of Angular Momentum. For example, how does the Big Bang Theory explain "Retrograde Motion" (the backward spin of some planets and the backward orbits of some moons) without violating the Law of Conservation of Angular Momentum?

Everything in the universe is spinning - planets, stars, galaxies, etc. It would take an enormous amount of energy to start a planet spinning. To solve this, advocates of the Big Bang Theory claim that the singularity that blew up in a sudden big bang was spinning before it exploded, thus everything within it was spinning as it flung out. The problem is Venus, Uranus, and Pluto are spinning backwards (Retrograde Motion). If something spinning clockwise blows up, all of the pieces will be spinning clockwise (the Law of Conservation of Angular Momentum). The Big Bang explains Retrograde Motion as cosmic impacts on planets that have stopped and then reversed the spin. This is not acceptable, since many small impacts would be largely self-defeating, and the force of impact necessary to stop and reverse the spin of a planet all at once is incredible, so much so it would certainly leave a mark -- probably take a huge chunk out of the planet! At the very least, it would upset the orbit. Yet Venus has a retrograde spin and is nearly flawless in both its shape and orbit.

Besides the significant problem of retrograde spin, some natural satellites have a retrograde orbit around their planet. Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune have satellites orbiting in both directions. Once again, how can Big Bang cosmologists solve this dilemma without violating the Law of Conservation of Angular Momentum?

Also, the Big Bang Theory contradicts observed phenomena. For example, the Big Bang Theory is unable to explain uneven distribution of matter throughout the universe resulting in galactic "voids" and "clumps". If the Big Bang was true, all matter would be (roughly) evenly distributed.

In the universe, there are too many “large scale structures” to form in a time as short as 10-20 billion years, as suggested by the Big Bang Theory. Also, when observing globular clusters (groups of tens of thousands, to one million stars), they appear older than the universe, which falsifies the Big Bang Theory. Finally, there are contradictions between the Big Bang Theory, and thoughts of various religions.

http://www.odec.ca/projects/2004/khak4a0/publ...

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#3936 Jan 19, 2013
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
<quoted text>Most "Biblical Historians" who are not historians at all but religious zealots calling themselves historians.
Links?

“Waytogo”

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#3937 Jan 19, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Yes because science is not a religion is it? Science deals in fact right? Science has provable theory's right?
Religion is faith base. No proof required. Deal with it.
Yes and evolution has TONS of proof...Where as all you have is faith in a 2000 year old goat herders buybull religion....SAD REALLY...

Your kind is silly...You think everyone else has to rpove everything why you just say because the buybull says so....WHAT SAD UNEDUCATED FOOLS.

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