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Richard Dawkins tweets on abortion: ‘any fetus is less human than an adult pig’

There are 1829 comments on the freerepublic.com story from Mar 16, 2013, titled Richard Dawkins tweets on abortion: ‘any fetus is less human than an adult pig’. In it, freerepublic.com reports that:

It would seem the pro-life movement has acquired an unlikely supporter. On Wednesday, Richard Dawkins, a vocal proponent of atheism and the author of The God Delusion, posted a provocative tweet about abortion: With respect to those meanings of "human" that are relevant to the morality of abortion, any fetus is less human than an adult pig.

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Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#1238 May 19, 2013
zef wrote:
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Wrong, the government controls the selective service. And since most voters are women. The government is controlled by women.
JFC you are an idiot!

Then the question would be why are your brothers to fcking lazy to get up and vote? I guess dumb azz men are their own worst enemy?

Seriously? What is your excuse for WW1 or how about the civil and revolutionary wars?
Lincoln

United States

#1239 May 19, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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A unmarried creationist troll that denies the fact of evolution, does not have any say in the personal choices that women make.
Religious pieces of sh*t will always be ignored until they provide proof of their god.
Doing this earns them the right to provide scientific evidence behind their stupid, egocentric & arrogant beliefs.
"Religious pieces of sh*t"

In Tourette syndrome, compulsive swearing can be uncontrollable and undesired by the person uttering the phrases.

Seems OCD as well

Since: Jun 07

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#1240 May 19, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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"Religious pieces of sh*t"
In Tourette syndrome, compulsive swearing can be uncontrollable and undesired by the person uttering the phrases.
Seems OCD as well
We're not sure why you lie about god, it must be your mental illness again.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#1241 May 19, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Republicans are in love with the fetus but once born,
the magic fetus becomes a child,
to which republican teabaggers have
NO problems denying medical care.
Teabaggers are trash
You're babbling. Again, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with my post.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#1242 May 19, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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"Religious pieces of sh*t"
In Tourette syndrome, compulsive swearing can be uncontrollable and undesired by the person uttering the phrases.
Seems OCD as well
In schizophrenia, patients see things and try to convince others that they are there when they are not. Creationist theists like yourselves go one step further and lie about it and the other person because the truth hurts your ego so much.
Lincoln

United States

#1243 May 19, 2013
Alright, gather 'round, folks, show's just startin'...
the troll posting under still another name
that rhymes with stupid
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
You're babbling. Again, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with my post.
Lincoln

United States

#1244 May 19, 2013
1. Republicans are in love with the fetus.

2. Alas once born the magic fetus becomes a child.

3. Republican teabaggers have NO problems denying medical care the the child.

4. Teabaggers are trash

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#1245 May 19, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Alright, gather 'round, folks, show's just startin'...
the troll posting under still another name
that rhymes with stupid
<quoted text>
Ah, we have another mentally ill poster here.

Sorry, but this is the only screen name I post under. Your responses have nothing to do with what I'm saying.

Do try to keep up.
bohart

White Pine, TN

#1246 May 19, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
A fetus is not a baby.
Can't let this one go by, what is a fetus? Fetus comes from latin , it means......Infant!

you magnificently ignorant slut.

I always loved the old Saturday night live shows.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#1247 May 19, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Can't let this one go by, what is a fetus? Fetus comes from latin , it means......Infant!
you magnificently ignorant slut.
I always loved the old Saturday night live shows.
You can use all the terminology you like.

FACT the uterus belongs specifically to the woman. FACT we do not require that anyone be a life support system for another against their will. FACT a woman has rights. FACT something from the moment of conception has ZERO rights. FACT women/girls that do not wish to remain pregnant WILL find the means NOT to remain pregnant no matter how much misogynists like you protest because you have ZERO control.

I always love watching misogynists display their ignorance.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#1248 May 19, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Can't let this one go by, what is a fetus? Fetus comes from latin , it means......Infant!
you magnificently ignorant slut.
I always loved the old Saturday night live shows.
Wrong, it means the unborn offspring of a vertebrate.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#1249 May 19, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Wrong, it means the unborn offspring of a vertebrate.
This is the practice of "Conceptual Diminshment".

Since you will not know what that means, it is the same as saying you, Bitner, are the "offspring of a vertebrate".

The fallacy used here is the use of overly broad characterization for the unstated purpose of muddling the act in question.

To illustrate:

It is considered immoral to kill a human being without due process of law.

It is not considered immoral to kill a mouse (offspring of a vertebrate) without due process of law.

"Conceptual diminishment" is the technique of implying equivalence between the two acts.

This technique is a relatively common tool of propaganda across the spectrum of fallacious reasoning.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#1250 May 19, 2013
Wait until you are sober and repost again. Sorry but it made no sense and just sounded like angry childish wailing.
zef wrote:
<quoted text>How so?
You don't care if your son was raped and murdered in prison?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#1251 May 19, 2013
As that one's responses tend to be. It is obvious he doesn't have a strong grasp of the English language and often uses even simple words incorrectly. Just a devout fundie defending his church against non believers but lacking the vocabulary and proper English skills to do so.
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>The has absolutely NOTHING to do with my post.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#1252 May 19, 2013
See? I rest my case. I have tried to point him to some ESL classes online where he could improve his English, perhaps one day he will be brave enough to do so?
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>Alright, gather 'round, folks, show's just startin'...
the troll posting under still another name
that rhymes with stupid

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#1253 May 19, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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This is the practice of "Conceptual Diminshment".
Since you will not know what that means, it is the same as saying you, Bitner, are the "offspring of a vertebrate".
The fallacy used here is the use of overly broad characterization for the unstated purpose of muddling the act in question.
To illustrate:
It is considered immoral to kill a human being without due process of law.
It is not considered immoral to kill a mouse (offspring of a vertebrate) without due process of law.
"Conceptual diminishment" is the technique of implying equivalence between the two acts.
This technique is a relatively common tool of propaganda across the spectrum of fallacious reasoning.
There is no fallacy in my argument, which had NOTHING to do with killing, but with the misuse of a term. This is known as a strawman argument, claiming a position for another, and then arguing against what they haven't said in the first place.

YOUR fallacy is in treating morality as though it is objective and equates to law. It is not, and does not necessarily do so.

Morals are subjective, and relative to the person/group holding them.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#1254 May 19, 2013
Speaking of conceptual diminishment I think you meant to say... How many children do you have again fatass liar? Your story changed from originally two children at least who were going to miss you during the holidays while you were getting butt banged in jail to now only one child who is this unheard of top recruit. A top secret top recruit! Lol!

You lie so much it's funny oh Jeff Chase fan!
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>This is the practice of "Conceptual Diminshment".

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#1255 May 19, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no fallacy in my argument, which had NOTHING to do with killing, but with the misuse of a term. This is known as a strawman argument, claiming a position for another, and then arguing against what they haven't said in the first place.
YOUR fallacy is in treating morality as though it is objective and equates to law. It is not, and does not necessarily do so.
Morals are subjective, and relative to the person/group holding them.
Even if morals are subjective, which is a tenuous claim in itself, you used a definition of a fetus in the context of a discussion about abortion and rights thereof.(See title of thread)

I committed no fallacy, you did. I made no claim that you were discussing killing. My objection was a definition you employed.

The relevance to "killing" is inherent in your characterization, is one of inductive reasoning.

For you to claim your offering of a definition of "fetus" has no relevance to a discussion of terminating the life of that "fetus", you are being phony and disingenuous, at best; a bald-faced liar at worst.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#1256 May 19, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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"Even if morals are subjective, which is a tenuous claim in itself,"

Not to anyone who understands what the word subjective means.

"you used a definition of a fetus in the context of a discussion about abortion and rights thereof."

I used a definition to correct someone who was defining it incorrectly. That's all.

"(See title of thread)"

The title of the thread is about Richard Dawkins. I haven't mentioned him at all. I'll post what I like, when I like, about what I like. And you can gfy.

"I committed no fallacy,"

Yes, you did.

"you did."

No, I did not.

"I made no claim that you were discussing killing. My objection was a definition you employed."

And you'll never see why this comment from you is ironic.

"The relevance to "killing" is inherent in your characterization, is one of inductive reasoning."

My post was not about killing. You'd like to pretend it is, but you are wrong.

"For you to claim your offering of a definition of "fetus" has no relevance to a discussion of terminating the life of that "fetus", you are being phony and disingenuous, at best; a bald-faced liar at worst."

Nope. And this is just more irony from you, given the fact that you just now claimed that YOU were only taking exception to MY definition.

Piss off. Enjoy you impotence.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1257 May 19, 2013
Bitner wrote:
<quoted text>
No, but you are a mentally ill idiot.
No fetus is a woman, not even a female fetus.
A human female fetus is a woman. Your crass ageist bigotry does not define anything.
woman
noun
1. the female human being ( distinguished from man ).
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/woman

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