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Richard Dawkins tweets on abortion: ‘any fetus is less human than an adult pig’

There are 1829 comments on the freerepublic.com story from Mar 16, 2013, titled Richard Dawkins tweets on abortion: ‘any fetus is less human than an adult pig’. In it, freerepublic.com reports that:

It would seem the pro-life movement has acquired an unlikely supporter. On Wednesday, Richard Dawkins, a vocal proponent of atheism and the author of The God Delusion, posted a provocative tweet about abortion: With respect to those meanings of "human" that are relevant to the morality of abortion, any fetus is less human than an adult pig.

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#854 May 14, 2013
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Ah, you're another one ignorant of the facts of human anatomy and physiology. I'm not surprised.
Sure. Your anatomy and physiology acumen and your legal acumen are equally solid.

Explain the changes in "anatomy" of the human resulting from expulsion from the birth canal.

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#855 May 14, 2013
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More deflection. No surprise.
Can't answer, huh?

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#856 May 14, 2013
Not even you are that dumb.
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>That's what they said about slavery.

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#857 May 14, 2013
No we understand perfectly. You would want one set of rules for your family and another set of rules for others.
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>I never said it would be my choice.

I was asked what I would want. I answered.

I accept that you pro-aborters do not understand a straight answer.

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#858 May 14, 2013
Actually he was performing abortions improperly and it came back to bite him.
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>It was only a medical procedure.

He was helping women exercise "choice".

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#859 May 14, 2013
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No, you're ASSuming that I am, based only upon my position on ONE issue. That's because you're an ass.
I'm neither a liberal, nor a liar. OR, a lawyer. Deal with it.
You are a liberal, and a liar, and I have dealt with it.
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Bitner wrote:(Post #733) "No, you did not show where a fetus has any civil rights. And you can't, because it does not."

Bitner wrote:(Post #712) "There is only one human being in each case."

Bitner wrote:(Post #729) "By the way, there is NOTHING in our Constitution that would make a murderer out of anyone who kills a fetus."

Buck Crick wrote; Bitner responded:(Post #708)

Crick: "You need to address, if you can, how an entity you claim has no rights and is not a human being, being killed, subjects the perpetrator to a murder conviction under our Constitution.
What is your answer?"

Bitner: "It does not."

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*COURT UPHOLDS CAPITAL MURDER CONVICTION OF LUFKIN MAN

"Ninth Court of Appeals denies man's claim that law protecting unborn babies from the moment of conception is unconstitutional.

By Ashley Cook - The Lufkin Daily News

Friday, January 26, 2007

In what may be the first decision of its kind, a Beaumont appeals court Wednesday upheld the 2005 double capital murder conviction of a former Lufkin High School student who killed his unborn twin sons.

The Ninth Court of Appeals denied 21-year-old Gerardo Flores' claim that the law protecting unborn babies from the moment of conception is unconstitutional.

The case tested a Texas law that makes it a capital offense to kill an unborn child. The law redefined a person as having full rights to legal protection from the moment of conception."

This is what is referred to in debate as "a knockdown argument".

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#860 May 14, 2013
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What I nailed, is that whether or not a fetus is a "human being" is a matter of opinion.
You are a liar.

You state that whether a human being is a fetus is a matter of opinion, NOW.

But you earlier stated - AS FACT - that it IS NOT:


Bitner wrote:(Post #712) "There is only one human being in each case."







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#861 May 15, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Actually he was performing abortions improperly and it came back to bite him.
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Got the job done, didn't he?

By the way, his most serious charges are first-degree murder.

Performing abortions improperly are separate charges.

I was struck by the compassion of the pro-infanticide group, Planned Parenthood, who put out a statement after the verdict expressing concern for the women involved. Nothing about the murdered infants.

And we are forced to give them money through are taxes.

Which is a direct violation of federal law, the Hyde Amendment.

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#862 May 15, 2013
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Can't answer, huh?
Says Buck - the liar with no proof of god who runs away when asked for it.

Like all creationists.

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#863 May 15, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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You are a liberal, and a liar, and I have dealt with it.
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Bitner wrote:(Post #733) "No, you did not show where a fetus has any civil rights. And you can't, because it does not."
Bitner wrote:(Post #712) "There is only one human being in each case."
Bitner wrote:(Post #729) "By the way, there is NOTHING in our Constitution that would make a murderer out of anyone who kills a fetus."
Buck Crick wrote; Bitner responded:(Post #708)
Crick: "You need to address, if you can, how an entity you claim has no rights and is not a human being, being killed, subjects the perpetrator to a murder conviction under our Constitution.
What is your answer?"
Bitner: "It does not."
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*COURT UPHOLDS CAPITAL MURDER CONVICTION OF LUFKIN MAN
"Ninth Court of Appeals denies man's claim that law protecting unborn babies from the moment of conception is unconstitutional.
By Ashley Cook - The Lufkin Daily News
Friday, January 26, 2007
In what may be the first decision of its kind, a Beaumont appeals court Wednesday upheld the 2005 double capital murder conviction of a former Lufkin High School student who killed his unborn twin sons.
The Ninth Court of Appeals denied 21-year-old Gerardo Flores' claim that the law protecting unborn babies from the moment of conception is unconstitutional.
The case tested a Texas law that makes it a capital offense to kill an unborn child. The law redefined a person as having full rights to legal protection from the moment of conception."
This is what is referred to in debate as "a knockdown argument".
Creationism is a mental illness and you are the proof buck.

At this stage its clear that you know that you are lying to us.

Why persist? Just go back to your cave and go back to your women-hating anti-evolution ways.

While the rest of society just gets on with life.

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#864 May 15, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Got the job done, didn't he?
By the way, his most serious charges are first-degree murder.
Performing abortions improperly are separate charges.
I was struck by the compassion of the pro-infanticide group, Planned Parenthood, who put out a statement after the verdict expressing concern for the women involved. Nothing about the murdered infants.
And we are forced to give them money through are taxes.
Which is a direct violation of federal law, the Hyde Amendment.
Can creationists keep the bible out of the woman's uterus please?

Thanks.

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#865 May 15, 2013
I think you'd be better served watching a non Fox News source for your info fatass.

You'd humiliate yourself less. He performed procedures improperly knowingly. That in no way reflects on the 99.99999% of doctors who perform the procedure properly and safely.

Abortion is legal and will continue to be so which you admitted in the right circumstances even you would approve of abortion.
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>Got the job done, didn't he?

By the way, his most serious charges are first-degree murder.

Performing abortions improperly are separate charges.

I was struck by the compassion of the pro-infanticide group, Planned Parenthood, who put out a statement after the verdict expressing concern for the women involved. Nothing about the murdered infants.

And we are forced to give them money through are taxes.

Which is a direct violation of federal law, the Hyde Amendment.

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#867 May 15, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I think you'd be better served watching a non Fox News source for your info fatass.
You'd humiliate yourself less. He performed procedures improperly knowingly. That in no way reflects on the 99.99999% of doctors who perform the procedure properly and safely.
Abortion is legal and will continue to be so which you admitted in the right circumstances even you would approve of abortion.
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You are an idiot.

Where did I say all abortions should be illegal?

Besides, I have chosen to do many illegal acts. So have you.

That doesn't mean I think those acts should be legal, nor illegal.

To repeat - you are an idiot.

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#868 May 15, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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That's true. The bible says nothing about a woman choosing to end her own pregnancy.
You are quite wrong and stupid. It is chock full of thematic condemnation of such, as it deals with the sanctity of human life.

But I'll be even more specific, and prove the wrongness, biblically, of the act itself:

1.“These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look, A lying tongue,Hands that shed innocent blood…”(Prov. 6:16-17, NKJV).

(At day 22 of gestation, the heart begins to beat with the child's own blood, often a different type than the mothers)

2.“…and Rebekah, Isaac's wife, conceived. And the children struggled together within her…”(Genesis 25:21-22).

Note the Hebrew word used to refer to Rebekah’s unborn twins, Jacob and Esau, is "banim". This is the exact word used to refer to chidren after birth. Obviously, dozens of scriptures prohibit the killing of "banim".

3. Exodus deals with what is to happen when an intentional injury causes a pregnant woman to miscarry. If the baby is born premature but alive, the perpetrator is punished, but less severely. If the injury results in miscarriage and death of the baby, punishment is the death penalty.

Exodus did not differentiate with regard to whether the perpetrator was a physician.

(Exodus 21:22-25, NKJV).

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#869 May 15, 2013
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Can creationists keep the bible out of the woman's uterus please?
Thanks.
I don't care what you put in your uterus.

In fact, I care nothing for your uterus at all. Never even think about it.

I don't care if you have your uterus bronzed and use it for a paper weight.

I don't care if you make a potato gun out of it.

Are you beginning to get a feel for how I feel about your uterus?

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#870 May 15, 2013
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Says Buck - the liar with no proof of god who runs away when asked for it.
Like all creationists.
It seems like you may have said that before.

Just don't want you to risk sounding repetitive.

Hope that's helpful.

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#871 May 15, 2013
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Now sh*t the f*ck up creationist troll with no morals who lies about a god he has no proof of.
It seems you may have said that before.

Just didn't want you to risk sounding repetitive.

Hope that's helpful.

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#872 May 15, 2013
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Narcissistic rage is a reaction to narcissistic injury, which is a perceived threat to a narcissist's self-esteem or self-worth. Narcissistic injury (or narcissistic scar) is a phrase used by Sigmund Freud in the 1920s; narcissistic wound and narcissistic blow are further, almost interchangeable terms. The term narcissistic rage was coined by Heinz Kohut in 1972.
Narcissistic rage occurs on a continuum from instances of aloofness, and expression of mild irritation or annoyance, to serious outbursts, including violent attacks. Narcissistic rage reactions are not limited to personality disorders and may be also seen in psychosis such as catatonic, paranoid and depressive psychotic episodes. It has also been suggested that narcissists have two layers of rage. The first layer of rage can be thought of as a constant anger (towards someone else), with the second layer being a self-aimed wrath.
Rage by a narcissist is directed towards the person that they feel has slighted them. This rage impairs their cognition, therefore impairing their judgment. During the rage, they are prone to shouting, fact distortion and making groundless accusations.
What would you call a country where terrorists enter the homes of totally innocent people, take their children on groundless accusations and give those children to people and institutions where they are physically, sexually, and psychologically abused, and frequently die, and commit these crimes with complete government protection and immunity from prosecution, and do this regularly in every part of that country? These child kidnappers and abusers go under the euphemistic banner of Child Protective Services, and the country where they carry out these atrocities is The United States of America.
Schizophrenia is considered a chronic condition that can cause severe disruptions in a person’s health, happiness and peace of mind. The condition can appear at almost any age, but it typically appears during adolescence, when people are just learning how to function within the adult world. With therapy, people who have schizophrenia can keep their symptoms under control, but the condition can never truly be cured.

Living with a chronic condition like this can be difficult, and some people rebel against the schizophrenia label, refusing to participate in therapy for short periods of time, and relapsing back into poor habits as a result. Addictive drugs can make this process so much worse, exacerbating schizophrenia symptoms and counteracting the effect of medications that can be used to control the disease. While schizophrenia and addiction can go hand in hand, as this article will make clear, recovery from both conditions is possible.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

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#873 May 15, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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You are a liberal, and a liar, and I have dealt with it.
You are a right wing conservative and a parolee, no surprise there.

She whooped your azz into the ground. Take it like a man...a difficult task for you indeed.

“Women are people, not objects.”

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#874 May 15, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Schizophrenia is considered a chronic condition that can cause severe disruptions in a person’s health, happiness and peace of mind. The condition can appear at almost any age, but it typically appears during adolescence, when people are just learning how to function within the adult world. With therapy, people who have schizophrenia can keep their symptoms under control, but the condition can never truly be cured.
Living with a chronic condition like this can be difficult, and some people rebel against the schizophrenia label, refusing to participate in therapy for short periods of time, and relapsing back into poor habits as a result. Addictive drugs can make this process so much worse, exacerbating schizophrenia symptoms and counteracting the effect of medications that can be used to control the disease. While schizophrenia and addiction can go hand in hand, as this article will make clear, recovery from both conditions is possible.
Amen to that! I can't believe that thing is still rattling on! Has he gone on one of his colon restriction rampages lately, or flipped out over the sight of men's bare feet?

What a complete wack job! I wouldn't want him on our side...the pro-rape camp can keep him. He belongs with them.

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