Richard Dawkins tweets on abortion: ‘any fetus is less human than an adult pig’

Mar 16, 2013 Full story: freerepublic.com 1,829

It would seem the pro-life movement has acquired an unlikely supporter. On Wednesday, Richard Dawkins, a vocal proponent of atheism and the author of The God Delusion, posted a provocative tweet about abortion: With respect to those meanings of "human" that are relevant to the morality of abortion, any fetus is less human than an adult pig.

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“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#571 May 6, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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I guess after reading Bob the Quantum_Bot [Jerry Springer show] posts attacking and making fun of belief thought it might be interesting to see how atheists react to the same.
You may be looking for a university class in philosophy
and metaphysics
and mistake Topix threads for this?
Topix has freedom of speech.
Some of the posters do remind one of "birthers" as was mentioned by another poster.
Read the condescending posts on the atheist threads and see if they make any sense to you?
Proof of God has mystified philosophers for ages, morons making fun of God are a bit of fun to answer.
I am undecided in belief. Reading the atheist threads has turned me against at least some of these atheists.
One of Bob's recent posts supports my point of view. In it, he explains that he began posting much as I do, respectfully and focused. It was the behavior of the theists that changed his approach. I suppose I could change mine as well, but you wouldn't want to see it. I am also quite capable of brilliant cruelty. Restraint is a choice for me, not a necessity.
Lincoln

United States

#572 May 6, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Which god? And arguably those philosophers were pre-17th century in England. After then, it was surely religious 'philosophers' who took man-made religions and their prophets seriously who were being the 'morons'.
Nothing moronic about making fun of god(s). They're useful for little else. It undermines silly superstitions in gods, witches and ghosts. The less superstitious the world the better.
Nothing moronic about making fun of atheists on Topix.

Real atheists seem nothing like the posts on Topix.
Most of my atheist friends worked on President Obama's campaign and did not make fun of believers. Certainly Not during the 2012 campaign when we won with believers votes.
Lincoln

United States

#573 May 6, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>One of Bob's recent posts supports my point of view. In it, he explains that he began posting much as I do, respectfully and focused. It was the behavior of the theists that changed his approach. I suppose I could change mine as well, but you wouldn't want to see it. I am also quite capable of brilliant cruelty. Restraint is a choice for me, not a necessity.
He is what he is and does damage to his cause.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#574 May 6, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing moronic about making fun of atheists on Topix.
...
I disagree. It's constructive to point out patently absurd and harmful superstitions. Idle attendance on the atheist threads merely to make fun of people, atheists or religionists, is uncalled-for. Satire is one thing, mocking another.
Lincoln

United States

#575 May 6, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>I disagree. It's constructive to point out patently absurd and harmful superstitions. Idle attendance on the atheist threads merely to make fun of people, atheists or religionists, is uncalled-for. Satire is one thing, mocking another.
Satire and mocking are close to one another.
Bob seems the queen of mocking?
More interested in History and find atheist knowledge of same often lacking.

Windows crashes Apple does not.

Peace

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#576 May 6, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing moronic about making fun of atheists on Topix.
Real atheists seem nothing like the posts on Topix.
Most of my atheist friends worked on President Obama's campaign and did not make fun of believers. Certainly Not during the 2012 campaign when we won with believers votes.
Defeated immoral creationist troll with no proof of god. Almost as smart as Educated What, but not quite.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#577 May 6, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Satire and mocking are close to one another.
Bob seems the queen of mocking?
More interested in History and find atheist knowledge of same often lacking.
Windows crashes Apple does not.
Peace
You're a full of sh*t lying theist with no proof of god.

Now that you realise you don't have any arguments to make against atheists, you choose to attack them instead.

Shame on you immoral theist, shame on you.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#578 May 6, 2013
Mike wrote:
<quoted text>
Unborn homo sapiens are innocent humans.
How odd, not a Christain and still thinks he has the right to dictate others choices. A Rethuglican, at least, right?

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#579 May 6, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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I wouldn't know what Atheists want. I'm not one of them.
He wouldn't know either, he is not one of us.
Mike

Belleville, IL

#580 May 6, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>How odd, not a Christain and still thinks he has the right to dictate others choices. A Rethuglican, at least, right?
Nope I'm a liberal. Liberals believe in standing up for human rights. When you are pro-life you are standing up for human rights. Liberals want to legislate morality way more than republicans. We should never have seceded the moral high ground to them. It makes liberals afraid of their own shadow. That is why we a stuck with republican light presidents like Obama and Clinton. Further more all these pro-abortion rights politicians like Hillary that claim that a fetus is not alive have lost all credibility to lecture other people about climate change, and evolution. Climate change and evolution are much harder to understand than what constitutes a living organism. You learn that on day one of 8th grade biology. I'm sure you believe in dictating other peoples choices yourself. If you think stealing should be illegal then you believe in your right to dictate other peoples choices.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#581 May 6, 2013
Mike wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope I'm a liberal. Liberals believe in standing up for human rights. When you are pro-life you are standing up for human rights. Liberals want to legislate morality way more than republicans. We should never have seceded the moral high ground to them. It makes liberals afraid of their own shadow. That is why we a stuck with republican light presidents like Obama and Clinton. Further more all these pro-abortion rights politicians like Hillary that claim that a fetus is not alive have lost all credibility to lecture other people about climate change, and evolution. Climate change and evolution are much harder to understand than what constitutes a living organism. You learn that on day one of 8th grade biology. I'm sure you believe in dictating other peoples choices yourself. If you think stealing should be illegal then you believe in your right to dictate other peoples choices.
Incorrect, your first point at least, not bothering with the rest of it. Liberals are all for protecting what they feel deserves it more just like the conservatives of the US. Two sides to the same coin, and the only difference is which way they face, and never do the two face the logical direction. The only reason I find liberals more tolerable is that they are at least more worried about defending the smaller populations than the conservatives, but do not think for one second the two are really that different from each other.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#582 May 6, 2013
Ridicule is a great technique when demonstrating how silly the theists claims are. It shines a light on the darkness of superstitious nonsense that has held us as a species back at least 500 years.

But we see the devoted belief in the sky wizards dwindling as churches close at record numbers and god has been reduced to... What started the Big Bang?

The theists have no answers and are completely unable to employ anything except logical fallacies. We see the theists failing on a hundred fronts and that is a comforting thought :)
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>I disagree. It's constructive to point out patently absurd and harmful superstitions. Idle attendance on the atheist threads merely to make fun of people, atheists or religionists, is uncalled-for. Satire is one thing, mocking another.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#583 May 7, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Ridicule is a great technique when demonstrating how silly the theists claims are. It shines a light on the darkness of superstitious nonsense that has held us as a species back at least 500 years.
But we see the devoted belief in the sky wizards dwindling as churches close at record numbers and god has been reduced to... What started the Big Bang?
The theists have no answers and are completely unable to employ anything except logical fallacies. We see the theists failing on a hundred fronts and that is a comforting thought :)
<quoted text>
Yes, but we should be careful to try to attack the belief and not the person.

Lincoln called Bob the 'Queen of Mocking',(or similar). I think Lincoln sees himself as being even-handed, but I don't see that he is. He offers no justification for superstition and usually fails to recognise any of the harm it does. He argues that non-believers should respect seriously harmful superstitions and he criticises us for failing to do so.

Lincoln, arguably you’re more mocking than Bob. You attend the atheist threads and offer little relevant to non-believers, just your personal ‘faith’. I have seen NI suffer 25 years of sectarian violence which could have been avoided had children not been segregated in religiously denominated schools and I see British schools continue with the tradition. I am expected to tolerate unelected clergy on everything from school boards to the Upper House of Parliament. I see British schoolchildren leave schools with scorn for evolution and the clergy say nothing. I and my contemporaries have been dragged to church against our will and had to lie all our childhoods about our disgust for superstition or be punished for not showing respect for it. So you’re not being even-handed Lincoln. At best you’re being obtuse and something of a troll. You seem in a weak position to criticise Bob, who at least keeps to strictly rational arguments on an ‘atheist’ thread.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#584 May 7, 2013
Each and every post of Lincoln's can be answered by simply saying... And? So what's your point?

He tries to attack and annoy he just says anything to troll and try to get a reaction. Many have tried to have a conversation with him but either he is only interested in trolling or lacks the intelligence for an actual debate. Most likely both.

Seriously you could make a program to do what he does a human wouldn't even be needed. Hence why I white sheeted him.
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, but we should be careful to try to attack the belief and not the person.

Lincoln called Bob the 'Queen of Mocking',(or similar). I think Lincoln sees himself as being even-handed, but I don't see that he is. He offers no justification for superstition and usually fails to recognise any of the harm it does. He argues that non-believers should respect seriously harmful superstitions and he criticises us for failing to do so.

Lincoln, arguably you’re more mocking than Bob. You attend the atheist threads and offer little relevant to non-believers, just your personal ‘faith’. I have seen NI suffer 25 years of sectarian violence which could have been avoided had children not been segregated in religiously denominated schools and I see British schools continue with the tradition. I am expected to tolerate unelected clergy on everything from school boards to the Upper House of Parliament. I see British schoolchildren leave schools with scorn for evolution and the clergy say nothing. I and my contemporaries have been dragged to church against our will and had to lie all our childhoods about our disgust for superstition or be punished for not showing respect for it. So you’re not being even-handed Lincoln. At best you’re being obtuse and something of a troll. You seem in a weak position to criticise Bob, who at least keeps to strictly rational arguments on an ‘atheist’ thread.
Thinking

Poole, UK

#585 May 7, 2013
Alternatively, GFY.
Mike wrote:
<quoted text>
This is what you get when you use San Francisco based google to ask what the 'definition of embryo' is. You need to stop playing word police and quit telling people they can't call a fetus a baby because you say they can't.
em·bry·o
/&#712;embr&#275;& #716;&#333;/
Noun
An unborn or unhatched offspring in the process of development.
An unborn human baby, esp. in the first eight weeks from conception, after implantation but before all the organs are developed.
Thinking

Poole, UK

#586 May 7, 2013
I see you're trying divide and conquer because, as usual, you've brought f*ck all to the table.

You're a hypocrite.
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
He is what he is and does damage to his cause.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#587 May 7, 2013
Mike wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope I'm a liberal. Liberals believe in standing up for human rights. When you are pro-life you are standing up for human rights. Liberals want to legislate morality way more than republicans. We should never have seceded the moral high ground to them. It makes liberals afraid of their own shadow. That is why we a stuck with republican light presidents like Obama and Clinton. Further more all these pro-abortion rights politicians like Hillary that claim that a fetus is not alive have lost all credibility to lecture other people about climate change, and evolution. Climate change and evolution are much harder to understand than what constitutes a living organism. You learn that on day one of 8th grade biology. I'm sure you believe in dictating other peoples choices yourself. If you think stealing should be illegal then you believe in your right to dictate other peoples choices.
My comment was directed at this bit of stupid, rememeber you wrote it "Unborn homo sapiens are innocent humans."' so are you a Christain or not?
Mike

Roswell, GA

#588 May 9, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>My comment was directed at this bit of stupid, rememeber you wrote it "Unborn homo sapiens are innocent humans."' so are you a Christain or not?
Whether I'm Christian or not has nothing to do with the soundness of my argument.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#589 May 9, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I see you're trying divide and conquer because, as usual, you've brought f*ck all to the table.
You're a hypocrite.
<quoted text>
The behaviour of people like Lincoln, KJV & Buck Crick, just shows us all that these guys have really given up.

They know that they are lying about god, now its just about spamming their cult horsesh*t in this forum much like a viagra email..
Thinking

Ashford, UK

#590 May 10, 2013
Since nearly half of embryos just don't make it to term, your god is the biggest abortionist of all.
Mike wrote:
<quoted text>
Whether I'm Christian or not has nothing to do with the soundness of my argument.

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