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Richard Dawkins tweets on abortion: ‘any fetus is less human than an adult pig’

There are 1829 comments on the freerepublic.com story from Mar 16, 2013, titled Richard Dawkins tweets on abortion: ‘any fetus is less human than an adult pig’. In it, freerepublic.com reports that:

It would seem the pro-life movement has acquired an unlikely supporter. On Wednesday, Richard Dawkins, a vocal proponent of atheism and the author of The God Delusion, posted a provocative tweet about abortion: With respect to those meanings of "human" that are relevant to the morality of abortion, any fetus is less human than an adult pig.

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Lincoln

United States

#449 Apr 29, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So if the bible is not literal, then why do you consider it fact?
.. a fact ?

Philosophy is a bit more complex that
atheist mumbo jumbo
Thinking

Dundee, UK

#450 Apr 29, 2013
When I said the bible was not accurate, you answered, "Of course!"
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
.. a fact ?
Philosophy is a bit more complex that
atheist mumbo jumbo
Lincoln

United States

#451 Apr 29, 2013
Greek philosophy was diverse.

Translations are difficult. if you speak more than one language you may know.

Dr. Dawkins makes money with his version of mumbo jumbo .... quite a lot of money.
Thinking

Dundee, UK

#452 Apr 29, 2013
1. He's been a professor since the 60s.
2. Dawkins wrote many scientific texts before religitards like you targeted him.
Lincoln wrote:
Greek philosophy was diverse.
Translations are difficult. if you speak more than one language you may know.
Dr. Dawkins makes money with his version of mumbo jumbo .... quite a lot of money.
Lincoln

United States

#453 Apr 29, 2013
Thinking wrote:
1. He's been a professor since the 60s.
2. Dawkins wrote many scientific texts before religitards like you targeted him.
<quoted text>
Atheism goes nowhere philosophically.
One does NOT need to be religious to realize this.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#454 Apr 29, 2013
Wow you really touched a nerve on that fundamentalist Christian! Looks like his proselytizing isn't working as well as he hoped.
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>1. He's been a professor since the 60s.
2. Dawkins wrote many scientific texts before religitards like you targeted him.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#455 Apr 29, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Greek philosophy was diverse.
Translations are difficult. if you speak more than one language you may know.
Dr. Dawkins makes money with his version of mumbo jumbo .... quite a lot of money.
... and all we have in the NT are translations of translations. Jesus spoke Aramaic, but the earliest Gospels were written in Greek. Some Bibles are translated directly form that, but some are translated from Latin translations of then Greek.

Bart Ehrman points out in one of his talks that the dialogue with Nicodemus in John 3 could not have taken place as reported because the confusion about being reborn centers on one Greek word with two meanings, physical birth or birth from on high, i.e., of the spirit. But Aramaic has no word with the same double meaning. If Ehrman is correct, those passages have to have been composed decades after the Crucifixion, so the concept of being born again may not have been part of Jesus' teachings. Bad news for "born-again Christians."

So you're right, translation is a tricky business

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#456 Apr 29, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
.. a fact ?
Philosophy is a bit more complex that
atheist mumbo jumbo
Philosophy is not fact.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#457 Apr 29, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Greek philosophy was diverse.
Translations are difficult. if you speak more than one language you may know.
Dr. Dawkins makes money with his version of mumbo jumbo .... quite a lot of money.
Show me a priest or preacher who makes less.
Thinking

Dundee, UK

#458 Apr 30, 2013
Therefore you believe that Atheism can't be responsible for any historical atrocity.
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism goes nowhere philosophically.
Lincoln

United States

#460 Apr 30, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>
... and all we have in the NT are translations of translations. Jesus spoke Aramaic, but the earliest Gospels were written in Greek. Some Bibles are translated directly form that, but some are translated from Latin translations of then Greek.
Bart Ehrman points out in one of his talks that the dialogue with Nicodemus in John 3 could not have taken place as reported because the confusion about being reborn centers on one Greek word with two meanings, physical birth or birth from on high, i.e., of the spirit. But Aramaic has no word with the same double meaning. If Ehrman is correct, those passages have to have been composed decades after the Crucifixion, so the concept of being born again may not have been part of Jesus' teachings. Bad news for "born-again Christians."
So you're right, translation is a tricky business
Thanks for your information
Enjoyed reading Ehrman.
Christianity based on faith.
What do the stories in the Bible tell us, not did they happen as written and translated.
Lincoln

United States

#461 Apr 30, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Therefore you believe that Atheism can't be responsible for any historical atrocity.
<quoted text>
...as mush as any other idea in power.
People with power were/are the danger in Eastern Europe.
Lincoln

United States

#462 Apr 30, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Philosophy is not fact.
Dr. Dawkins is amusing but prefer Steven Wright!

Two babies were born on the same day at the same hospital. They lay there and
looked at each other. Their families came and took them away. Eighty years
later, by a bizarre coincidence, they lay in the same hospital, on their
deathbeds, next to each other. One of them looked at the other and said, "
So. What did you think?" -- Steven Wright
Thinking

Dundee, UK

#463 Apr 30, 2013
Is your Dr. Dawkins related to the more famous Professor Dawkins?
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Dr. Dawkins is amusing but prefer Steven Wright!
Two babies were born on the same day at the same hospital. They lay there and
looked at each other. Their families came and took them away. Eighty years
later, by a bizarre coincidence, they lay in the same hospital, on their
deathbeds, next to each other. One of them looked at the other and said, "
So. What did you think?" -- Steven Wright
Lincoln

United States

#464 Apr 30, 2013
Go God Go" is the 12th episode of the 10th season of the American animated television series

South Park.

It originally aired on Comedy Central in the United States on November 1, 2006, and is part one of a two-part story. Part two is titled "Go God Go XII", which aired a week later. In "Go God Go", Cartman is unable to wait the three weeks until the Wii video game console is released, and attempts to freeze himself to get closer to the release date, but accidentally ends up much later in the future, in the atheistic world of 2546.

The episode was written by South Park creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker, and was directed by Parker, and was rated TV-MA in the United States. With religion often forming the subject matter of South Park, this two-parter satirizes atheism, as well as famous evolutionary biologist and atheist Richard Dawkins, whose bestselling book The God Delusion was published in the months before the episode's broadcast.
Lincoln

United States

#465 Apr 30, 2013
Cartman is unable to wait three weeks until the Nintendo Wii console is released, causing him extreme insomnia and other symptoms (like hallucination, looking at the clock). He tries to go into cryonic suspension by getting in his refrigerator but his mother catches him. He finally gets Butters to freeze him in the mountains.

Concurrently, Mrs. Garrison resists being forced to teach the school's evolution curriculum, and mischaracterizes the theory, stating that man is "the retarded offspring of five monkeys who had butt-sex with a fish-squirrel." In response, the school administrator's hire outspoken evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins as an assistant teacher to help Mrs. Garrison present the evolution lesson. After some initial friction between the creationist Garrison and atheist Dawkins, a romantic interest soon develops.

During their date, Mrs. Garrison converts to atheism. Mrs. Garrison is convinced by Dawkins that religion is based on logical fallacies by claiming that one cannot disprove the existence of God in the same way that one cannot disprove a Flying Spaghetti Monster. Garrison comes to believe there is no great mystery to life, exclaiming that, "Evolution explains everything and God is a spaghetti monster". Mrs. Garrison is very thankful for this. Later they go back to Mrs. Garrison's house where they have sex. The next day in class, Garrison informs the students of her changed stance on evolution, prompting Stan to argue that one can have faith in both God and evolution. Because of this, he is forced to sit in a corner wearing a dunce cap that says “I Have Faith”. Later that night, as Dawkins and Garrison are cuddling in bed (surrounded by various erotic toys), Mrs. Garrison pushes Dawkins to the realization it is his duty to rid the world of religion and bring about peace with its abolition.
Lincoln

United States

#466 Apr 30, 2013
Richard Dawkins' response

Richard Dawkins reacted to the two-part episode by saying, "I'm buggered if I like being portrayed as a cartoon character buggering a bald transvestite. I wouldn't have minded so much if only it had been in the service of some serious point, but if there was a serious point in there I couldn't discern it."[3] In a Q & A session at the Free Library of Philadelphia [some guy] said: "I would have thought they could at least have got an actor that could do a proper British accent. Now, if only I could be offered a cameo role in The Simpsons, I could show that actor how to do a real British accent."[4][dead link]

When asked about the episode in a 2012 interview with Playboy magazine, Dawkins, who said it was the only episode of South Park he had seen, thought the future war among the different atheists sects, which he felt had "a certain amount of truth in it", harbored a greater potential for satire, as it reminded him of the Judean People's Front and the People's Front of Judea from the film Monty Python’s Life of Brian, but felt that too much of the episode was devoted to ridiculing him by depicting him having sex with Ms. Garrison, commenting, "That isn't satire because it has nothing to do with what I stand for. And the scatological part, where they had somebody throwing shit, which stuck to my forehead—that’s not even funny."[5][6]

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#467 Apr 30, 2013
:)

That looks like a checkmate to me!
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>Therefore you believe that Atheism can't be responsible for any historical atrocity.
Thinking

Dundee, UK

#468 Apr 30, 2013
I thought so.

It is no coincidence that Lincoln has just started spamming old jokes.
Givemeliberty wrote:
:)
That looks like a checkmate to me!
<quoted text>

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#469 Apr 30, 2013
Yep.

You know Dawkins has gave so much to the field of biology that has assisted in wonderful advances in life saving medicine. Millions are indebted to him for the advances he helped along. Jesus on the other hand did his part in the field of biology and medicine.... He said diseases were caused by demons!

Yes demons, not because of virus, not because of germs spread by not covering your mouth and nose when sneezing, nope just demons.

Imagine the billions of lives that would have been saved if Jesus had commanded... You must cover your mouth and nose with the bend of your elbow when coughing or sneezing and frequently wash your hands.

Nope he didn't figure that one out! Just you know demons.
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>I thought so.

It is no coincidence that Lincoln has just started spamming old jokes.

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