Richard Dawkins tweets on abortion: ‘any fetus is less human than an adult pig’

Mar 16, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: freerepublic.com

It would seem the pro-life movement has acquired an unlikely supporter. On Wednesday, Richard Dawkins, a vocal proponent of atheism and the author of The God Delusion, posted a provocative tweet about abortion: With respect to those meanings of "human" that are relevant to the morality of abortion, any fetus is less human than an adult pig.

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Hypothesis: there is a god.
Scientific evidence: none so far.
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True. Neither is theism.

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May this be a consolation to atheists as schools ignore laws and teach ID and restrict other atheist ideas.
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Neither theism nor atheism are either supported or refuted by science, but ID is solidly refuted. That's because science is not applicable to the former but is to the latter. ID is not wrong because it is based in religion (even though it is) but because its only purpose is to deny that evolution has occurred over the eons. This is not the theory of evolution, which is best describes the processes involved, but the observation that modern species evolved from an antecedent species.

The problem with ID is that it was not developed using science. It was conceived as a philosophical argument against the ToE when creationism was soundly rejected not just by courts, but by academia. But it is not a comprehensive and testable hypothesis, only a series of easily refuted objections to the ToE. It does not stand on its own or say anything beyond, "No, that's wrong."

Schools won't ignore the laws, either, for one good reason: no self-respecting biology teacher will go along with teaching ID as a viable alternative, not will parents or school boards allow third-rate teachers to infest science departments.

Just ain't happenin', dude. Sorry.

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Thinking wrote:
Hypothesis: there is a god.
Scientific evidence: none so far.
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More like: insufficient data. Atheism is more consistent with a scientific approach to thought than theism is, but science itself doesn't support either because thus far, it has no way of formulating and testing hypotheses about religion.

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More like: insufficient data. Atheism is more consistent with a scientific approach to thought than theism is, but science itself doesn't support either because thus far, it has no way of formulating and testing hypotheses about religion.
Well said. Your previous post as well. And I say this as someone who is religious :)
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We do however know that no all powerful compassionate god can possibly exist because we have evidence of avoidable suffering.
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More like: insufficient data. Atheism is more consistent with a scientific approach to thought than theism is, but science itself doesn't support either because thus far, it has no way of formulating and testing hypotheses about religion.
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Neither theism nor atheism are either supported or refuted by science, but ID is solidly refuted. That's because science is not applicable to the former but is to the latter. ID is not wrong because it is based in religion (even though it is) but because its only purpose is to deny that evolution has occurred over the eons. This is not the theory of evolution, which is best describes the processes involved, but the observation that modern species evolved from an antecedent species.
The problem with ID is that it was not developed using science. It was conceived as a philosophical argument against the ToE when creationism was soundly rejected not just by courts, but by academia. But it is not a comprehensive and testable hypothesis, only a series of easily refuted objections to the ToE. It does not stand on its own or say anything beyond, "No, that's wrong."
Schools won't ignore the laws, either, for one good reason: no self-respecting biology teacher will go along with teaching ID as a viable alternative, not will parents or school boards allow third-rate teachers to infest science departments.
Just ain't happenin', dude. Sorry.
In public school ID is taught .. agree that it is not scientific.
Academic freedom vs the First Amendment.
Christian teachers work Christianity into classroom.
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We do however know that no all powerful compassionate god can possibly exist because we have evidence of avoidable suffering.
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Depends on definition of God and His powers,... just saying.
Free will vs Determinism debate.
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Hypothesis: there is a god.
Scientific evidence: none so far.
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"There is a god" is not a hypothesis - its a delusion / hallucination / assumption / claim.

A hypothesis has to have some substance to it, so god is not a hypothesis at all, because its an empty and hollow claim.
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Expanded hypothesis: there are things that happen we can't yet fully explain, one possible explanation for this is a god or gods.

Testable evidence: None.
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"There is a god" is not a hypothesis - its a delusion / hallucination / assumption / claim.
A hypothesis has to have some substance to it, so god is not a hypothesis at all, because its an empty and hollow claim.
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"There is a god" is not a hypothesis - its a delusion / hallucination / assumption / claim.
A hypothesis has to have some substance to it, so god is not a hypothesis at all, because its an empty and hollow claim.
atheist influence on politics in the United States may also be delusional...
just saying
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It would be better if leaders made decisions based on testable evidence as opposed to saying god told them to invade Iraq.
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atheist influence on politics in the United States may also be delusional...
just saying
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It would be better if leaders made decisions based on testable evidence as opposed to saying god told them to invade Iraq.
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Cheney and the Neo Cons were not God :-)
Tony Blair was a poodle for G W Bush?
Capitalism benefits us all, one way or another, at the expense of someone working in slave labor conditions in the 3rd world.
Read George Orwell's "The Road to Wigan Pier" ?
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Depends on definition of God and His powers,... just saying.
you can't say it until you present your proof of god, like all decent honest human beings would, before attempting and failing to slander atheism to embarrassingly.

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atheist influence on politics in the United States may also be delusional...
just saying
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Atheism = lack of belief in god. Got nothing to do with politics, you fail YET AGAIN.

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Cheney and the Neo Cons were not God :-)
Tony Blair was a poodle for G W Bush?
Capitalism benefits us all, one way or another, at the expense of someone working in slave labor conditions in the 3rd world.
Read George Orwell's "The Road to Wigan Pier" ?
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Typical 2005 failed creationist neocon. Atheism has nothing to do with politics.

We try to keep ignorant hallucinations like religion out of real life as much as possible.
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you can't say it until you present your proof of God, like all decent honest human beings would, before attempting and failing to slander atheism to embarrassingly.
This is a thread not a philosophy class :-)
You may not like the fact that atheism is political in the US.
Slandering atheism is a crime LOL
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Personal attack is all you have isn't it? And the nastier you try to get, the more insane you sound. Tell me do you know that the poster has a husband, and why would sucking up, result in feeling loved? What kind of dynamics are in your relationships that would make you consider such an option? And you think some one from elsewhere, loving the poster as the husband might, would be a loss?
Think about it, you fool, only the husband(if there is one) should love as the husband does. As for other people loving this particular poster, consider the siblings, parents, grand parents and children, who will love without end. Do you not have that simple human connection to another?
There is a filthy and mean anti-human vein that runs through your posts, would that be because you have a filthy and mean anti-human myth god? You do know that the rejection of your attitudes towards another's life choices, has nothing to do with either you or you mythical sky monkey don't you? A person makes choices based on who they are, and what they can deal with, and you dion't get to choose for anyone but your self.
You are a naive little chap! Bitner doesn't have a mutual bond for her husband. She tries to suck up to him to get him to get down with her, have sex with her, and have a meaning for her loveless self. Bitner is a people pleaser for the same reason.
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Well said. Your previous post as well. And I say this as someone who is religious :)
You just like him better than your husband, but you can't admit it to yourself, worthless!

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You just like him better than your husband, but you can't admit it to yourself, worthless!
Your penchant for owning women is showing again.

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You are a naive little chap! Bitner doesn't have a mutual bond for her husband. She tries to suck up to him to get him to get down with her, have sex with her, and have a meaning for her loveless self. Bitner is a people pleaser for the same reason.
It's sad that all you have are lies.

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