Census data reveal there are 4million...

Census data reveal there are 4million fewer Christians and one in four is now an atheist

There are 394 comments on the Mail on Sunday story from Dec 11, 2012, titled Census data reveal there are 4million fewer Christians and one in four is now an atheist. In it, Mail on Sunday reports that:

Data from last year's census today revealed the stunning decline of religion in the UK - with the number of Christians dropping by more than 4million.

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“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#152 Dec 13, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Everyone without exception? How do you know?
It's a law of physics.

Food is fuel. If you put in more fuel than you use, you gain weight. It is physically impossible to get fat without eating.

While it may be difficult for some, it is not impossible.
CrimeaRiver

UK

#153 Dec 13, 2012
Thinking wrote:
I'm married to a French lady that was schooled to a very high level by French taxpayers. She has never paid a Franc/Euro of that back to France. That's because she has been in constant work in the UK and paid all her taxes to the UK.
Blair's experiment failed. His "guaranteed" ghetto votes for labour are now going to the likes of Galloway's respect party, whilst his white trash vote is going to racist bastards like the BNP.
I don't care what colour someone is, or where they're from, but if someone doesn't want to go down the pub and join in, if someone doesn't like Secular England's values, they should f**k off somewhere else.
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People get caught up with skin colour and religion.

But you have hit the nail on the head. Doesn't matter where you hail from, if you can't accept British lifestyles then it is you that should change, not the other way round.

Despite the racial tensions that are now inevitable, Britain is still the most diverse and tolerant country I have ever witnessed. Ethnic minorities are actually treated as equals which is not the case in other european nations. And the Middle East is actively horrible to their minorities.

I won't talk about British values because I honestly believe that elements of the White British underclass abandoned those values decades ago.
John

Teneriffe, Australia

#155 Dec 13, 2012
David UK wrote:
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The fact of wether the OT is fact or fiction makes a big difference to these Fundys Dame Edna, your religion is all fake, and only fools & inbreds believe all that crap now.
Great comment.
Weren't you the captain of the university debating team?
LOL.
Fundamentalists are creeps.
Atheist fundamentalists are the worst.
Since you reject Christian morality what do you believe in?
Money?
Power?
Karl Marx?
The empty promises of some government con artist?
Cheap thrills?
Tell us.
Thinking

Cirencester, UK

#156 Dec 13, 2012
The six people I socialise with most of all: 2 English, 1 French, 1 Polish, 1 Russian, 1 American. Not reading too much into it, but the Brits are non-believers, whilst the non-Brits are all believers.

They all pay taxes to the UK and are the first to be angered by immigrants that don't want to integrate or locals that don't want to contribute.
CrimeaRiver wrote:
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People get caught up with skin colour and religion.
But you have hit the nail on the head. Doesn't matter where you hail from, if you can't accept British lifestyles then it is you that should change, not the other way round.
Despite the racial tensions that are now inevitable, Britain is still the most diverse and tolerant country I have ever witnessed. Ethnic minorities are actually treated as equals which is not the case in other european nations. And the Middle East is actively horrible to their minorities.
I won't talk about British values because I honestly believe that elements of the White British underclass abandoned those values decades ago.
Thinking

Cirencester, UK

#157 Dec 13, 2012
Define "Atheist fundamentalist"
John wrote:
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Great comment.
Weren't you the captain of the university debating team?
LOL.
Fundamentalists are creeps.
Atheist fundamentalists are the worst.
Since you reject Christian morality what do you believe in?
Money?
Power?
Karl Marx?
The empty promises of some government con artist?
Cheap thrills?
Tell us.
Adam

Ashburn, VA

#158 Dec 13, 2012
gth
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#159 Dec 13, 2012
rio wrote:
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Well, I am no Jew nor Muslim but I am in favour of it.
Deal with it!
Of course. You're not a jew or a muslim, or a christian and in recent days have started attacking atheists.

So, other than a troll, what are you?
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#160 Dec 13, 2012
John wrote:
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No, I wasn't laughing at the neurotic fool. People who commit suicide over nothing are not funny.
Whining politically correct foreigners who try to lynch my countrymen for having a sense of humour are also not funny.
Harmless prank calls are funny.
You and the other wankers having a hissy fit over those Australians you are so jealous off are also funny.
Christianity, contrary to the ill informed opinion of yapping atheists, does not mean silent approval of every idiocy. It does mean that I wont kill you are rape you or rob you or leave you to starve in the gutter or bash you for amusement or try to take away your rights.
How does coveting private information, stealing it and then encouraging someone to kill themselves fit with christian ideals?

I'm pretty sure it breaks 3 of the ten commandments.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#161 Dec 13, 2012
John wrote:
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Ugh, this is like talking to a child.
Whether the Old Testament is literal or metaphorical makes no difference. It resonates with the very real problem of good verses evil.
Is there anybody in their right mind who doubts that evil is real?
The revolutionary vision of Christ was so profound it formed a large part of the moral foundation of the modern western world.
It is one of the anchors of our civilisation.
Every time it has been rejected by conceited people in favour of their own utopias there has been trouble.
Hitler rejected it in favour of a might is right vision of the merciless superman.
Trouble.
The Communists rejected it in favour of the mob and a greasy bureaucracy pretending to save people "the rich".
Trouble.
The modern Socialists continue the Communist shtick with a less violent mob of shrieking politically correct thugs and a shit load of nanny state legislation to save everybody from themselves.
Trouble.
Individuals conned by the "counter culture" propagandists into rejecting Christianity drift into all kinds of fads and cults looking for something to take its place.
They'll try veganism, feminism, drugs, booze, yoga, anything. Well, almost anything. They wont try the way of life that worked so well in the west for centuries because they have been brainwashed against our traditional ways by decades of loony left propaganda.
Sounds like you want to bring back witch burning.

PS If evil exists, you're it.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#162 Dec 13, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
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From the 18th century onwards this Christian country has seen massive advancements in all ways. As far as I'm aware lots of other Christian countries have made great strides in advancement as well.
How many scientists these days are Christian? I personally have a scientist friend that is a church goer. Would he waste his time if he didn't believe?
1) This isn't a christian country.

2) If you don't think christianity has held back science then you're an idiot.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#163 Dec 13, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
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Survival post Roman occupation was probably more important than learning to read and write. Early Christian monks such as Bede kept records thankfully. There was not the means for mass publications in those days unlkike now where we have the internet, books, newspapers etc.
The victorians laid the foundations of our present education system and I'm pretty sure they were Christian.
What does Islam do to those (especially females) that want to educate themselves?
I think you'll find that the church tried to ensure that they were the only ones who COULD write.
Thinking

Cirencester, UK

#164 Dec 13, 2012
Great point.

You couldn't even get an English language bible until the 16th Century.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tyndale
I can read wrote:
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I think you'll find that the church tried to ensure that they were the only ones who COULD write.
rio

UK

#165 Dec 13, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
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reason or excuse?
Does it matter so much, or are you one of these macho types who claim women shouldn't have access to abortion?

You are so transparent in your bigoted and right-wing rants!
rio

UK

#166 Dec 13, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
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i mean is it right for the NHS to give EXPENSIVE HIV treatment to an immigrant fresh off the plane?
the alternative? send them home of course.
Well, as you choose to ignore, sending illegal immigrants back isn't straightforward business. maybe you don't follow the news.
It's a legal wrangle that can take years.
But you think it's OK to refuse treatment and let the individual transmit its disease.
You are sick!
rio

UK

#168 Dec 13, 2012
the real Blunt Mocker wrote:
We could have got ALL the jobs filled by white Europeans
That's a fallacy and you know it. I am not excusing Blair, but defending employers who recruit foreigners.
Most jobs taken by Chinese, Bengla Deshi, Poles, Latvians and others are systematically turned down by white Brits. I have witnessed it several times.
A friend of mine in Lincolnshire had to obtain permission from the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheris and Food, to recruit abroad because he couldn't find worker in his area to fill farming and food producing jobs. His job offer adverts were ignored in a region of unemployement and he finally contracted Ukrainian seasonal workers to fill up vacancies - all with the ministry's approval. His rate of pay were well above the minimal wage, he provided FREE lodging and food to. Not one local applied!
I have also heard from restaurateurs in London that mostly foreigners answer job offers for waitress, kitchen portes, bar staff, etc... Most of these jobs could be taken by Brits.

There are plenty of unemployed Brits who don't look for work and prefer to stay on benefits. That's the sad truth. Blaming foreigners for their willingness to get on the job ladder has become a national sport in UK.

Since: Mar 12

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#170 Dec 13, 2012
rio wrote:
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Does it matter so much, or are you one of these macho types who claim women shouldn't have access to abortion?
You are so transparent in your bigoted and right-wing rants!
"macho" very seventies rio/ronan.

when did i claim women shouldn't have access to abortion? thread name/post#(you know the drill,you claim i put forward a certain argument,then ignore all requests for proof showing i said it.)

what i will say is that abortion as a form of contraceptive is wrong.

are you one of those girly men types who think a woman is not capable of making the choice to get pregnant or not?(rape and incest the obvious exceptions,were abortion should be available)

You are so transparent in your bigoted and left-wing racist rants!
rio

UK

#171 Dec 13, 2012
Thinking wrote:
I don't care what colour someone is, or where they're from, but if someone doesn't want to go down the pub and join in, if someone doesn't like Secular England's values, they should f**k off somewhere else.
<quoted text>
I didn't know that going to the pub was another requirement to be allowed in Britain.

Pubs are closing down at the rate of 3700 per year! LOL

Where will the bigots like you congregate in future?

Don't tell me; at the football ground waving EDL banners!!
rio

UK

#172 Dec 13, 2012
CrimeaRiver wrote:
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I won't talk about British values because I honestly believe that elements of the White British underclass abandoned those values decades ago.
Exactly!
This forum is a good indication.
rio

UK

#173 Dec 13, 2012
I can read wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course. You're not a jew or a muslim, or a christian and in recent days have started attacking atheists.
So, other than a troll, what are you?
I attack intolerant people, whatever philosophical beliefs they profess to have.
I find that some atheists are just as bad, if not worse, than some religionists.

I don't care if you are atheist or not, but what I object is atheist pretending they are superior, and trying to dominate any debate. That, I cannoty stand!

If you cannot live and let live, you are the problem, not the others. Period

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#174 Dec 13, 2012
rio wrote:
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Well, as you choose to ignore, sending illegal immigrants back isn't straightforward business. maybe you don't follow the news.
It's a legal wrangle that can take years.
But you think it's OK to refuse treatment and let the individual transmit its disease.
You are sick!
sending illegal immigrants back SHOULD be made easier.i do follow the news and thanks to left wing dolts like yourself it is almost impossible.

you think that the hard working families of Britain pay taxes to treat HIV+ foreigners?

you think we should allow immigrants with HIV into the country to transmit their disease.

you are sick(no exclamation mark,because it is no surprise)

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