Census data reveal there are 4million fewer Christians and one in four is now an atheist

Dec 11, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Mail on Sunday

Data from last year's census today revealed the stunning decline of religion in the UK - with the number of Christians dropping by more than 4million.

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ivana

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Can you give us links on that, because I cannot find anywhere the UN pronouncing itself on circumcision.
The World Health Organisation is ambivalent about it, and many medical authorities have come in favour of circumcision, notably in Africa in the fight against HIV/AIDS and other STD.
So, I really would like to know when the UN debated about circumcision.
As a matter of interest, the German parliament has just voted a law protecting the practice of circumcision, after some people took surgeons to court and tries to have it banned.
I just typed keyywords into google took less than a minute.
http://www.circumstitions.com/Rights.html#chi...

Article 8, part 1:
States Parties undertake to respect the right of the child to preserve his or her identity [...and not be surgically altered to look like his father].

Article 13, part 1:
The child shall have the right to freedom of expression...[infant circumcision circumvents the child's freedom to decide for himself what parts of his body to keep, and his freedom of sexual expression by permanently and unnecessarily diminishing his sexual sensations].

Article 24, part 3:
States Parties shall take all effective and appropriate measures with a view to abolishing traditional practices prejudicial to the health of children.

20 November, 1989

This Convention has been ratified by every country in the world except Somalia and the United States of America.
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<quoted text>Well, I am just wondering after watching some programes about border control on the TV.

Looks to me that illegal are bailed and told to report after they get caught. There is no visible effort to deport them.

Apparently you need their consent, or at least have proof where they come from. So an undocumented illegal can play the game for quite a long time.

Also, Britain can only deport to countries that accept their nationals back; they don't always do that.

After a few years of misery and useless paperwork, the Home Office finally give Leave to Remain, and that's that!

This is why I made the sarcastic comment: "Do we still have illegals?"

You can't really blame them for trying if we have such a dumb system, can we?
Have you seen the "arrests" made at the Dover terminal for the "stowaways" caught onboard trucks? It's cups of tea, friendly interviews, distribution of blankets, medical examinations, etc... Years later, they are in the streets.
But the (sometimes) innocent truck driver gets the fines!!!
Absolutely laughable!!
You seem to have an un healthy interest in children's penis's & I'd suggest the law take a good look at your hard drive, freak
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How about backdating that to the descendents of anyone that arrived in America hundreds of years ago with diseases the indigenous population had no immunity to?

Maybe not?
the real Blunt Mocker wrote:
how about any immigrant who arrives with AIDS is sent straight back? and of course we have illegal immigrants, thousands of them.
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Anyone who uses alcohol or tobacco should only be treated after undergoing full detox. That would reduce all the cardiac and pulmonary problems, the gastric ailments. Less open-heart surgeries, less liver transplants, less colonic cancers, etc....
Anyone overweight should only be treated after substantial weight loss. That would reduce also cardiac and digestive problems, joints problems, spinal problems, etc...
What do you think?

Why do you think a full detox would reduce cardiac, pulmonary, gastric ailments? Having a full detox prior to treatment won't reverse decades of damage. Poor diet, addiction, alcohol abuse, smoking are directly linked to deprivation. Addictions are mental health conditions and linked to wider societal problems. Detox programmes are very expensive. The problems are caused by the complexity of modern life and cannot be resolved by letting the sick die.
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tell me.when an healthy woman terminates an healthy baby and the pregnancy poses NO MEDICAL RISK to the woman,what is the medical reason behind the termination?
The majority of abortions in the UK are performed using the reason mental distress.
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ivana wrote:
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I just typed keyywords into google took less than a minute.
http://www.circumstitions.com/Rights.html#chi...
Article 8, part 1:
States Parties undertake to respect the right of the child to preserve his or her identity [...and not be surgically altered to look like his father].
Article 13, part 1:
The child shall have the right to freedom of expression...[infant circumcision circumvents the child's freedom to decide for himself what parts of his body to keep, and his freedom of sexual expression by permanently and unnecessarily diminishing his sexual sensations].
Article 24, part 3:
States Parties shall take all effective and appropriate measures with a view to abolishing traditional practices prejudicial to the health of children.
20 November, 1989
This Convention has been ratified by every country in the world except Somalia and the United States of America.
Tell me which country observes this "human right" convention that they apparently all signed!
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as for HIV you do know that the vast majority of new HIV cases in the UK are actually African immigrants,you want to treat them?
What do you mean by "African immigrants" ?
Legal or illegal?

What is the alternative of not treating them? Do you think HIV will suddenly go away?
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What do you mean by "African immigrants" ?
Legal or illegal?
What is the alternative of not treating them? Do you think HIV will suddenly go away?
Other than the backward, primative jews and muslims everyone will refuse routine willy mutilation.
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Other than the backward, primative jews and muslims everyone will refuse routine willy mutilation.
Well, I am no Jew nor Muslim but I am in favour of it.

Deal with it!
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And Rio, are you so retarded that you think that not being circumcised is the cause of HIV. HAHAHA! You thick runt.
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What do you mean by "African immigrants" ?
Legal or illegal?
What is the alternative of not treating them? Do you think HIV will suddenly go away?
Having a unmutilated willy is not what causes the spread of HIV, you thick Jew.

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The majority of abortions in the UK are performed using the reason mental distress.
reason or excuse?

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What do you mean by "African immigrants" ?
Legal or illegal?
What is the alternative of not treating them? Do you think HIV will suddenly go away?
i mean is it right for the NHS to give EXPENSIVE HIV treatment to an immigrant fresh off the plane?

the alternative? send them home of course.
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Does this mean the idiot who laughs at people committing suicide thinks he is a christian?
I think your religion is trollish.
No, I wasn't laughing at the neurotic fool. People who commit suicide over nothing are not funny.
Whining politically correct foreigners who try to lynch my countrymen for having a sense of humour are also not funny.
Harmless prank calls are funny.
You and the other wankers having a hissy fit over those Australians you are so jealous off are also funny.
Christianity, contrary to the ill informed opinion of yapping atheists, does not mean silent approval of every idiocy. It does mean that I wont kill you are rape you or rob you or leave you to starve in the gutter or bash you for amusement or try to take away your rights.
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Without the old testament, the new makes no sense. In Christian teaching, original sin in the garden of eden cause the separation of God from man. Jesus was the sacrifice to redeem mankind from original sin and restore God's relationship with man. Without a literal garden of eden and adam and eve, there is no fall of man, and hence no need for redemption. The whole Jesus story is built up on the garden of eden mythology. Can you agree that Christian theology is fatally flawed now we understand the Genesis stories to be myth.
Also the gospel accounts are not reliable history but four contradictory letters written by anonymous Christians decades after the events which they purport to record. i.e. the evidence is wholly unreliable, so you cannot say for definate whether Jesus existed or if he did, what was recorded as his words is reliable. This is why, to me, Christianity is not a valid belief for a critical thinker.
Ugh, this is like talking to a child.
Whether the Old Testament is literal or metaphorical makes no difference. It resonates with the very real problem of good verses evil.
Is there anybody in their right mind who doubts that evil is real?
The revolutionary vision of Christ was so profound it formed a large part of the moral foundation of the modern western world.
It is one of the anchors of our civilisation.
Every time it has been rejected by conceited people in favour of their own utopias there has been trouble.
Hitler rejected it in favour of a might is right vision of the merciless superman.
Trouble.
The Communists rejected it in favour of the mob and a greasy bureaucracy pretending to save people "the rich".
Trouble.
The modern Socialists continue the Communist shtick with a less violent mob of shrieking politically correct thugs and a shit load of nanny state legislation to save everybody from themselves.
Trouble.
Individuals conned by the "counter culture" propagandists into rejecting Christianity drift into all kinds of fads and cults looking for something to take its place.
They'll try veganism, feminism, drugs, booze, yoga, anything. Well, almost anything. They wont try the way of life that worked so well in the west for centuries because they have been brainwashed against our traditional ways by decades of loony left propaganda.
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<quoted text>Ugh, this is like talking to a child.
Whether the Old Testament is literal or metaphorical makes no difference. It resonates with the very real problem of good verses evil.
Is there anybody in their right mind who doubts that evil is real?
The revolutionary vision of Christ was so profound it formed a large part of the moral foundation of the modern western world.
It is one of the anchors of our civilisation.
Every time it has been rejected by conceited people in favour of their own utopias there has been trouble.
Hitler rejected it in favour of a might is right vision of the merciless superman.
Trouble.
The Communists rejected it in favour of the mob and a greasy bureaucracy pretending to save people "the rich".
Trouble.
The modern Socialists continue the Communist shtick with a less violent mob of shrieking politically correct thugs and a shit load of nanny state legislation to save everybody from themselves.
Trouble.
Individuals conned by the "counter culture" propagandists into rejecting Christianity drift into all kinds of fads and cults looking for something to take its place.
They'll try veganism, feminism, drugs, booze, yoga, anything. Well, almost anything. They wont try the way of life that worked so well in the west for centuries because they have been brainwashed against our traditional ways by decades of loony left propaganda.
The fact of wether the OT is fact or fiction makes a big difference to these Fundys Dame Edna, your religion is all fake, and only fools & inbreds believe all that crap now.

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David UK wrote:
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No it isn't, for a long time Christianity held scientists by their balls threatening them with being burned alive if they went against Christian doctrine, it's been the free thinkers of this world who have driven our progress.
From the 18th century onwards this Christian country has seen massive advancements in all ways. As far as I'm aware lots of other Christian countries have made great strides in advancement as well.

How many scientists these days are Christian? I personally have a scientist friend that is a church goer. Would he waste his time if he didn't believe?

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Thinking wrote:
Literacy died on its arse when christianity took over from Rome in Europe. That's why we've got so few records from the second half of the first millennium.
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Survival post Roman occupation was probably more important than learning to read and write. Early Christian monks such as Bede kept records thankfully. There was not the means for mass publications in those days unlkike now where we have the internet, books, newspapers etc.
The victorians laid the foundations of our present education system and I'm pretty sure they were Christian.

What does Islam do to those (especially females) that want to educate themselves?

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But if you look back even further, it is the Islamic world that gave the Christian west a foundation on which to build advanced technologies.
Medical advancements, mathematical advancements and scientific study were all part and parcel of the Islamic world while we in the west were still blood letting and burning witches.
At some point in their history, the leaders of the islamic worl saw science as an afront to God and that was that.
We have benefitted greatly from the scientific advances Islam made in the Middle ages.
I would suggest pre Islam personally. Islam just finished off any advancement those of the Middle East were making as it spread its religious views throughout the region.

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Yeah, I'll go with that.
Although it's safe to say that when it comes to pushing your views on others, Christians are among the worst.
JW's are the worst. Mind you, it's good fun to invite them in when they knock at your door. Just tell them you're about to celebrate the Black Mass and you need a sacrifice for the altar.

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