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Census data reveal there are 4million fewer Christians and one in four is now an atheist

There are 394 comments on the Mail on Sunday story from Dec 11, 2012, titled Census data reveal there are 4million fewer Christians and one in four is now an atheist. In it, Mail on Sunday reports that:

Data from last year's census today revealed the stunning decline of religion in the UK - with the number of Christians dropping by more than 4million.

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Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#1 Dec 11, 2012
Great news!

Christianity is definitely dying out.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#2 Dec 11, 2012
The writer, though, may have been overly optimistic (or pessimistic from a believer's point of view) in assuming that all of the unaffiliated are also nonbelievers. In studies on this side of the pond, only about 25% of the unaffiliated have turned out to have serious doubts about God or a higher power. Still, the data does indicate that the trend towards skepticism has not yet peaked.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#3 Dec 11, 2012
Then again, many people will have ticked the Christianity box for cultural, rather than religious reasons.
nOgOd

Rockford, IL

#4 Dec 11, 2012
Let us all work on keeping other idiotic cults from expanding or becoming as obnoxious as christianity has.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#5 Dec 11, 2012
Atheism is just as bad as Christianity and other religions when it comes to its people spouting off about their beliefs.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#6 Dec 11, 2012
Those that have a religion (or none) but keep it relatively to themselves are far better than those that try to push their religious, or atheist views on others.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#7 Dec 11, 2012
NightSerf wrote:
The writer, though, may have been overly optimistic (or pessimistic from a believer's point of view) in assuming that all of the unaffiliated are also nonbelievers. In studies on this side of the pond, only about 25% of the unaffiliated have turned out to have serious doubts about God or a higher power. Still, the data does indicate that the trend towards skepticism has not yet peaked.
This is what I find so striking about the difference between the USA and UK. The UK 'nones' seem less religious and definitely less superstitious. That is what I think I observe from both statistics and from personal exerience.

And (regarding the UK) there has been substantial immigration in the UK over the last decade. Most immigrants were from Poland, Pakistan and India. They mostly seem to espouse a religion. The non-native populations also tend to have larger families than the 'Brit-White' group. There are sort-of atheist religions in the UK too, like Jedi and Satanists, though they are few and odd-ball. Paganism has grown too.

Traditional religionists seem to be declining - at last. Atheism isn't increasing, but hopefully superstition is retreating in the face of education and science.

Religious faith and beliefs like 'witchcraft' are different from beliefs that are justified by reason and evidence. People aren't necessarily entitled to their beliefs - when they are harmful for instance.(e.g. Racists or fascists?) One should always be happy to challenge anything that one believes.
Thinking

Cirencester, UK

#9 Dec 11, 2012
Yes, as discussed, it was a very leading question that lead people to put in their childhood religion, even if they don't believe today.

I just spoke to my older sister who admitted to skipping the question altogether despite her having no religious affiliation for years because she thought this is no one else's business.

I'm sure many other non-believers did the same.

The question should have been a two-stager.

A. Do you have a religion, yes or no?

If Yes, which one ...

If No, proceed to the next question.

That would've generated a non-religious result far larger than 25%.
Khatru wrote:
Then again, many people will have ticked the Christianity box for cultural, rather than religious reasons.
Thinking

Cirencester, UK

#10 Dec 11, 2012
As religion is the only question on the Census you can't get into trouble with the law over, I, in 2001, along with 300,000+ jokers, said I was a Jedi.

In 2011, sensing a new momentum for reason, I said I had no religious affiliation- along with 14 million others.
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>This is what I find so striking about the difference between the USA and UK. The UK 'nones' seem less religious and definitely less superstitious. That is what I think I observe from both statistics and from personal exerience.
And (regarding the UK) there has been substantial immigration in the UK over the last decade. Most immigrants were from Poland, Pakistan and India. They mostly seem to espouse a religion. The non-native populations also tend to have larger families than the 'Brit-White' group. There are sort-of atheist religions in the UK too, like Jedi and Satanists, though they are few and odd-ball. Paganism has grown too.
Traditional religionists seem to be declining - at last. Atheism isn't increasing, but hopefully superstition is retreating in the face of education and science.
Religious faith and beliefs like 'witchcraft' are different from beliefs that are justified by reason and evidence. People aren't necessarily entitled to their beliefs - when they are harmful for instance.(e.g. Racists or fascists?) One should always be happy to challenge anything that one believes.
John

Teneriffe, Australia

#11 Dec 11, 2012
Khatru wrote:
Great news!
Christianity is definitely dying out.
Yeh great!
Now sick new age cults like veganism and sick foreign cults like islam will try to fill the vacuum.
Do you loony left culture destroyers have any sense at all?
John

Teneriffe, Australia

#12 Dec 11, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
Atheism is just as bad as Christianity and other religions when it comes to its people spouting off about their beliefs.
Atheism is just another religion.
The statement "there is no god" is just as arrogant and conceited as any other religious dogma.
Thinking

Cirencester, UK

#13 Dec 12, 2012
Foreign? Was jesus born in Australia? Is christianity headquartered in Canberra? You're a moron.
John wrote:
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Yeh great!
Now sick new age cults like veganism and sick foreign cults like islam will try to fill the vacuum.
Do you loony left culture destroyers have any sense at all?
Thinking

Cirencester, UK

#14 Dec 12, 2012
You've no idea of my political leanings, christard.
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeh great!
Now sick new age cults like veganism and sick foreign cults like islam will try to fill the vacuum.
Do you loony left culture destroyers have any sense at all?
Dubbadub

Ireland

#15 Dec 12, 2012
If I didn't believe in God I'd definitely have myself frozen, at least my brain anyway. Hear they do it indefinitely now for 80,000, then IF they ever have the tech they will bring you back.

I don't think us humans are far away from immortality, sad thing is I don't think anyone born before 2000 has much hope of the technology being around by then.

Imagine dying, and that was that you didn't exist whatsoever anymore and never would again. Fcukin scary scary thought......
Dubbadub

Ireland

#16 Dec 12, 2012
All the bullsh*t we spend money on in this world, while we should be trying to find out how to live forever....
John

Teneriffe, Australia

#17 Dec 12, 2012
Thinking wrote:
You've no idea of my political leanings, christard.
<quoted text>
You are a typical conceited socialist jerk.
John

Teneriffe, Australia

#18 Dec 12, 2012
Thinking wrote:
Foreign? Was jesus born in Australia? Is christianity headquartered in Canberra? You're a moron.
<quoted text>
Christianity is one of the foundation stones of western civilisation.
You're a fool.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#19 Dec 12, 2012
Christianity is the reason the west is so advanced unlike Islamic countries that keep themselves in the dark ages.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#20 Dec 12, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
Those that have a religion (or none) but keep it relatively to themselves are far better than those that try to push their religious, or atheist views on others.
Its Theists that push their views on others. Thats their commission, to preach.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#21 Dec 12, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
Christianity is the reason the west is so advanced unlike Islamic countries that keep themselves in the dark ages.
The dark ages were 1000 years in Europe 5th to 15th centuries. Surely not a coincidence that this was the same time Christianity took off.

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