US ex-religious survey

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EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#1 Oct 1, 2013
An atheist wants to collect (anonymous) info about why people rejected their former religious training/upbringing.

Topix appears to keep auto-deleting this for no apparent reason. I can't provide a link or a title as that may be what triggers it, who knows? What to do is google:
Demographics of Formerly Religious People in the U.S.

The site is one of several I have come across which seems entirely innocuous but links or names won't stick on Topix.

Since: Apr 13

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#2 Oct 1, 2013
Took the survey but there were a couple of things wrong with it.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#3 Oct 2, 2013
peace n shaax123 wrote:
Took the survey but there were a couple of things wrong with it.
Going from memory, aren't you Muslim?

The survey is for US non-believers only - those who have rejected religion. This thread was posted to the Atheism Forum.

Since: Apr 13

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#4 Oct 2, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Going from memory, aren't you Muslim?
The survey is for US non-believers only - those who have rejected religion. This thread was posted to the Atheism Forum.
I left Islam. Why, you might ask? Evolution. Just trying to keep it short.

I didn't think anyone would remember me.lol.
Thinking

UK

#5 Oct 2, 2013
Did you pick up on the Derby school story?
Do you think they liked teaching Evolution?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-24360100
peace n shaax123 wrote:
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I left Islam. Why, you might ask? Evolution. Just trying to keep it short.
I didn't think anyone would remember me.lol.

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#6 Oct 2, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Did you pick up on the Derby school story?
Do you think they liked teaching Evolution?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-24360100
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No, I just clicked on your link. I live in the states so I didn't hear about it. I don't think they teached evolution. If they did, they only told them lies. Even here in the states they don't teach evolution in public schools. That's why I didn't know much about it. They are just trying to keep us stupid because if he learned real science we would know religion is nothing but bullsh!t. I just can't believe I actually bought it. It's so upsetting.
Thinking

UK

#7 Oct 2, 2013
I think I understand. I got sent to a CofE school... young minds are so easily moulded.

I don't mind people having a personal belief system - but whenever religion scales it up it all seems to go horribly wrong.
peace n shaax123 wrote:
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No, I just clicked on your link. I live in the states so I didn't hear about it. I don't think they teached evolution. If they did, they only told them lies. Even here in the states they don't teach evolution in public schools. That's why I didn't know much about it. They are just trying to keep us stupid because if he learned real science we would know religion is nothing but bullsh!t. I just can't believe I actually bought it. It's so upsetting.

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#8 Oct 2, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I think I understand. I got sent to a CofE school... young minds are so easily moulded.
I don't mind people having a personal belief system - but whenever religion scales it up it all seems to go horribly wrong.
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I mind people having person believes. have you heard of Plato's cave allegory?

This should be considered child abuse. Do you know how long it took me to get over the idea of hell? You would think God would care more about being good than believing in him. smh
Thinking

UK

#9 Oct 2, 2013
I agree that religion prevents one from looking at reality directly, which I believe is Plato's cave shadow message?

What I was trying to say is that I don't mind people believing in something, it is organised religion that messes everything up.
peace n shaax123 wrote:
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I mind people having person believes. have you heard of Plato's cave allegory?
This should be considered child abuse. Do you know how long it took me to get over the idea of hell? You would think God would care more about being good than believing in him. smh

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#10 Oct 2, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I agree that religion prevents one from looking at reality directly, which I believe is Plato's cave shadow message?
What I was trying to say is that I don't mind people believing in something, it is organised religion that messes everything up.
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True. Organized religions are the root of almost all evil in the world. When I believed I thought that it was how some people interpret it. Now I realized that religion gave them that platform to interpret it that way. If it wasn't there to begin with, they would have nothing to misinterpret.
Thinking

UK

#11 Oct 3, 2013
Maybe if all scripture was placed in the Fantasy Fiction section of bookshops those that wanted a personal relationship with some form of god still could without screwing up the world for the rest of us.
peace n shaax123 wrote:
<quoted text>
True. Organized religions are the root of almost all evil in the world. When I believed I thought that it was how some people interpret it. Now I realized that religion gave them that platform to interpret it that way. If it wasn't there to begin with, they would have nothing to misinterpret.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#12 Oct 3, 2013
peace n shaax123 wrote:
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I left Islam. Why, you might ask? Evolution. Just trying to keep it short.
I didn't think anyone would remember me.lol.
Obviously a case of once met, never fogotten!:-)

I argue against religion because I think superstition is bad for individuals and society. I don't see giving up religious beliefs as 'losing faith', I see it as freeing one's mind from superstition and error. Sometimes people react to what I write as if I'm attacking them or trying to rob them of something,(e.g their faith). I'm not trying to take anything from anyone, I see myself as trying to promote understanding and reason.

I'm glad we seem much closer in our views nowadays.

Since: Apr 13

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#13 Oct 3, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Maybe if all scripture was placed in the Fantasy Fiction section of bookshops those that wanted a personal relationship with some form of god still could without screwing up the world for the rest of us.
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Lol, true. Secularism does a good job of this. I think if more countries applied secularism into their government, the world would be a much happier and safer place for everyone. I also think human progress would go up. We would see more advancement in areas such as science, technology, justice, etc

Since: Apr 13

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#14 Oct 3, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Obviously a case of once met, never fogotten!:-)
I argue against religion because I think superstition is bad for individuals and society. I don't see giving up religious beliefs as 'losing faith', I see it as freeing one's mind from superstition and error. Sometimes people react to what I write as if I'm attacking them or trying to rob them of something,(e.g their faith). I'm not trying to take anything from anyone, I see myself as trying to promote understanding and reason.
I'm glad we seem much closer in our views nowadays.
You have good memory.

I agree with you but the task is very hard. There are people who think it's their mission from god to stop people like us. And if they lose the game of logic, they will simply try to kill you.
There are people who would like to leave but think if they do, they will go to hell.
I know when i tell my family im no longer a Muslim, they will disown me. The ironic thing is when i was a Muslim i had my knowledge about the religion than them and i was more "pious" than them. Even though i was a better Muslim than them, i didn't try to disown them.but some how they can disown me now because they are better than me. Lol

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#15 Oct 3, 2013
I've never been religious my parents didn't care about religion and we never talked about religion at home
Thinking

UK

#16 Oct 3, 2013
Sometimes it is difficult for family to get over "what the neighbours think". You should be judged on how you treat others most of all. I really wish you the best of luck with all of that.
peace n shaax123 wrote:
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You have good memory.
I agree with you but the task is very hard. There are people who think it's their mission from god to stop people like us. And if they lose the game of logic, they will simply try to kill you.
There are people who would like to leave but think if they do, they will go to hell.
I know when i tell my family im no longer a Muslim, they will disown me. The ironic thing is when i was a Muslim i had my knowledge about the religion than them and i was more "pious" than them. Even though i was a better Muslim than them, i didn't try to disown them.but some how they can disown me now because they are better than me. Lol

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