HELL real or not?
Amused

Lowell, MA

#258 Oct 30, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
- WHAT IS HELL LIKE?
There are two descriptions of hell in the Bible. One is of a burning fire. Jesus often used the word GEHENNA to describe hell. Gehenna was the refuse dump outside Jerusalem that was always on fire. Jesus said hell was a place of worms, maggots, fire, and trouble. From that we get the image of a lake of fire and the concept of perpetual burning. The evil ones there are full of remorse and torment (see Mark 9:43-48).
Jesus also said that hell would be "outer darkness." He said that some in His day "will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 8:12, see also Matthew 22:13). Here the image is one of terrible loneliness. There will be separation from God and man. Those who are consigned to hell will be put out into the inky blackness of eternity, with nobody to turn to, nobody to talk to, and they will be constantly alone. They will suffer the remorse of knowing they had the opportunity to come into heaven with God but turned it down.
The Bible speaks of a lake of fire reserved for the devil and his angels (see Matthew 25:41). Human beings were never intended to go into hell. But the ones who choose to reject God will one day follow Satan right into hell.
There will be no exit from hell, no way out, no second chance. That is why it is so important in this life to receive the pardon that God extends to all men through the cross of Jesus Christ.
HOW CAN GOD SEND PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER HEARD OF CHRIST TO HELL?
God does not send people to hell because they never heard of Christ. He sends people to hell because they have sinned. The judgment for sin will be in relationship to how much they knew. To phrase it another way, it is action in light of privilege. A person living in America has maximum spiritual privilege. Therefore the spiritual standard for America would be the gospel of Jesus and everything in the Old and New Testaments. But someone who grew up in an uncivilized jungle might be held to account for the fact that something in his conscience told him there is a Creator worthy of his worship. The Bible says his conscience will either accuse him or excuse him on the day of Jesus Christ (see Romans 2:14-16). God is not going to condemn people if their own consciences excuse them. Regretfully, every human being has sinned against his or her own conscience.
God does not judge people for failure to believe in Jesus, but because they are sinners. The problem is that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). For those who have received Jesus Christ as Savior, there will be forgiveness and mercy.
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Being in the same place as the likes of you for all eternity is my vision of hell.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#259 Oct 30, 2013
Amused wrote:
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Being in the same place as the likes of you for all eternity is my vision of hell.
No sensible god would allow religionists into heaven. Better to have peace and sanity.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#260 Oct 30, 2013
No-Doubt wrote:
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If they cut your hand, it will not grow by itself which
mean there is no self creation
If cells was found by itself
So why hand cells will not form hand directly by it self
Obviously because it was not created by it self
Cutting off hands is a muslim thing, so I suppose you all have more expertise with such things, but:

Salamanders whose tails are cut off will regrow new tails.

By your logic, then, Salamanders were self-created.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#261 Oct 30, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
- WHAT IS HELL LIKE?
Who gives a crap?

Unless you are one of those perverts that **GETS**OFF** on TORTURE?

Hmmm... I bet you are!

Since: Jun 13

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#262 Nov 1, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>That god you worship sounds like a sadistic sociopath...
What is your issue?
The game is simple.

You are given life to prove yourself
You are given the rules to play by
You are then judged on how you did
Heaven and God are perfect. No imperfection is allowed in. One sin and your done.

Christians get a get out of jail free card.
(It's called Jesus)

Pretty simple, look in the rule book it could help you get through this.

Since: Jun 13

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#263 Nov 1, 2013
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>Being in the same place as the likes of you for all eternity is my vision of hell.
Well you have best rethink that, because hell is real and a whole lot worse then that.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#264 Nov 1, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Who gives a crap?

Unless you are one of those perverts that **GETS**OFF** on TORTURE?

Hmmm... I bet you are!
Booby wipe your chin.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#265 Nov 1, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>
What is your issue?
The game is simple.
You are given life to prove yourself
You are given the rules to play by
You are then judged on how you did
Heaven and God are perfect. No imperfection is allowed in. One sin and your done.
Christians get a get out of jail free card.
(It's called Jesus)
Pretty simple, look in the rule book it could help you get through this.
Well, my first issue, of course, is that neither hell nor god are real.

But let's take a look at what you wrote.

WHY would an all knowing, all powerful, omnipotent being WANT to punish beings that were so much less than that being?
Amused

Lowell, MA

#266 Nov 1, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Well you have best rethink that, because hell is real and a whole lot worse then that.
The fact that you think the threat of torture for non believers is the best argument for your beliefs is, in fact fairly damning (sorry, couldn't resist) evidence of the complete intellectual bankruptcy of those beliefs.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#267 Nov 1, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
- WHAT IS HELL LIKE?
There are two descriptions of hell in the Bible. One is of a burning fire. Jesus often used the word GEHENNA to describe hell. Gehenna was the refuse dump outside Jerusalem that was always on fire. Jesus said hell was a place of worms, maggots, fire, and trouble. From that we get the image of a lake of fire and the concept of perpetual burning. The evil ones there are full of remorse and torment (see Mark 9:43-48).
Jesus also said that hell would be "outer darkness." He said that some in His day "will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 8:12, see also Matthew 22:13). Here the image is one of terrible loneliness. There will be separation from God and man. Those who are consigned to hell will be put out into the inky blackness of eternity, with nobody to turn to, nobody to talk to, and they will be constantly alone. They will suffer the remorse of knowing they had the opportunity to come into heaven with God but turned it down.
The Bible speaks of a lake of fire reserved for the devil and his angels (see Matthew 25:41). Human beings were never intended to go into hell. But the ones who choose to reject God will one day follow Satan right into hell.
There will be no exit from hell, no way out, no second chance. That is why it is so important in this life to receive the pardon that God extends to all men through the cross of Jesus Christ.
...
We can almost see you masturbating as you contemplate others being tortured. You and your imaginary god are made in each other's image - sick and twisted.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#268 Nov 1, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>
What is your issue?
The issue is this: you are so desperately full of hate, that your eyes are brown, and every time you open your mouth, it dribbles down your filthy, unwashed face.

That is the issue at hand.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#269 Nov 1, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Booby wipe your chin.
Did Jesus tell you to say that?

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#271 Nov 2, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Well, my first issue, of course, is that neither hell nor god are real.
But let's take a look at what you wrote.
WHY would an all knowing, all powerful, omnipotent being WANT to punish beings that were so much less than that being?
Frying ants with a magnifying glass, and the glass wielder gets to be a real god. To just torture, or bring both torture and death. There is something really juvenile and petty about that. It reminds me of the god of Abraham.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#272 Nov 2, 2013
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
Cutting off hands is a muslim thing, so I suppose you all have more expertise with such things, but:
Salamanders whose tails are cut off will regrow new tails.
By your logic, then, Salamanders were self-created.
Please understand that the person you are arguing with believes that "mr bean converted to islam".

We have a new contender for "most ignorant belief" , it was won by the creationists for so long, with " jesus rode on the backs of dinosaurs" by Educated What.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#273 Nov 2, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Frying ants with a magnifying glass, and the glass wielder gets to be a real god. To just torture, or bring both torture and death. There is something really juvenile and petty about that. It reminds me of the god of Abraham.
Really? I always thought that ant bullies were real.

;)

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#274 Nov 4, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
- WHAT IS HELL LIKE?
There are two descriptions of hell in the Bible. One is of a burning fire. Jesus often used the word GEHENNA to describe hell. Gehenna was the refuse dump outside Jerusalem that was always on fire. Jesus said hell was a place of worms, maggots, fire, and trouble. From that we get the image of a lake of fire and the concept of perpetual burning. The evil ones there are full of remorse and torment (see Mark 9:43-48).
Jesus also said that hell would be "outer darkness." He said that some in His day "will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 8:12, see also Matthew 22:13). Here the image is one of terrible loneliness. There will be separation from God and man. Those who are consigned to hell will be put out into the inky blackness of eternity, with nobody to turn to, nobody to talk to, and they will be constantly alone. They will suffer the remorse of knowing they had the opportunity to come into heaven with God but turned it down.
The Bible speaks of a lake of fire reserved for the devil and his angels (see Matthew 25:41). Human beings were never intended to go into hell. But the ones who choose to reject God will one day follow Satan right into hell.
There will be no exit from hell, no way out, no second chance. That is why it is so important in this life to receive the pardon that God extends to all men through the cross of Jesus Christ.
HOW CAN GOD SEND PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER HEARD OF CHRIST TO HELL?
God does not send people to hell because they never heard of Christ. He sends people to hell because they have sinned. The judgment for sin will be in relationship to how much they knew. To phrase it another way, it is action in light of privilege. A person living in America has maximum spiritual privilege. Therefore the spiritual standard for America would be the gospel of Jesus and everything in the Old and New Testaments. But someone who grew up in an uncivilized jungle might be held to account for the fact that something in his conscience told him there is a Creator worthy of his worship. The Bible says his conscience will either accuse him or excuse him on the day of Jesus Christ (see Romans 2:14-16). God is not going to condemn people if their own consciences excuse them. Regretfully, every human being has sinned against his or her own conscience.
God does not judge people for failure to believe in Jesus, but because they are sinners. The problem is that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). For those who have received Jesus Christ as Savior, there will be forgiveness and mercy.
More teaching sheets from CBN.com .
Why fill your mind with such cr*p, when it could be filled with actual science?
LCNLin

United States

#275 Nov 13, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Why fill your mind with such

cr*p,

when it could be filled with actual science?
Scatology seems the major interest?

LOL

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#276 Nov 13, 2013

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LCNLin

United States

#277 Nov 13, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Why fill your mind with such cr*p, when it could be filled with actual science?
Scatology seems the only interest?

LOL

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#278 Nov 13, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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Scatology seems the only interest?
LOL
Seems scared of proving what he knows doesn't exist?

LOL

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