The Myth of the Big Bang
Thinking

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#2033 Aug 7, 2013
You never moved on from the junior book of space, did you?

Back to school with you, twart.
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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LOL!!
"Time is a concept that we know relates to this universe at the atomic level. It may relate to other universes"
Other universes?
Do you even know what the definition of the word universe is?
Definition of UNIVERSE:
All matter, Space, And Energy.
That's ALL!
UNI - One
Not one of many. LOL
Try the words Multi verse next time junior.
"Time is a concept". Really a concept? LOL.
Time is a dimension and nothing can exist with out it in THE one and only Universe.

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#2034 Aug 8, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>It is amusing to watch how you insist on being clueless.
You know what's really amusing.
You in a box.

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#2035 Aug 8, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>Shows that your imagination is strong and you still don't know anything about real science
Real science?

Is evolution real science?

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#2036 Aug 8, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>Nope

(bible is not proof)
The Bible is the word of God.

If God did not exist there would be no Bible.

Time is proof of God.

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#2037 Aug 8, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>Will you ever get "past" being wrong?
I was not wrong. Pluto is past Neptune.

Need me to bring forth your embarrassing post again?

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#2038 Aug 8, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>Yet it was still a lie and attempting to cover it up does your credibility not the slightest good
Nope

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#2039 Aug 8, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>Nope just fact, simply because the facts do not agree with your belief in the sanctity of paedophiles in no way implies hate.
Do you believe in evolution?

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#2040 Aug 8, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
Yes, do you? Or do you simply agree with the outdated explanation taught to you in the 9th grade?

So we can assume judging by your statement that there is nothing outside the (for example) fashion universe? or the “media” universe”?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/univer...
Universe :
1/ The totality of “known” or “supposed” objects and phenomena throughout space; the cosmos; macrocosm.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/uni...
1/ the whole body of things and phenomena “observed” or “postulated”

Note I included the quotes. I consider both these definitions to be scientifically more accurate than the limited, old fashioned and increasingly more inaccurate “All matter, Space, And Energy.”

Then of course you could consider keeping up to date by doing a little research using papers published by people who actually study the universe and the possibility of “other” universes, try http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/ to begin educating yourself. They do not say other universes exist but they do not preclude the possibility. The old fashioned idea of “one” is just that, an old fashioned idea, both scientifically and mathematically the idea of one makes little sense. However in the godbot world it’s the only thing that can make sense of goddidt with magic.

If our universe is not the only universe then could you please advise of the fundamental laws of those alternate universes. Do those laws allow such niceties as gravity, space and time? who knows? Or do they even allow cause and effect as defined by the second law of thermodynamics? Which incidentally did not completely resolve in our universe until around 10^-23th of a second after the event of the BB. Time as we know it (the arrow of time) could not have existed in our universe until the second law of thermodynamics resolved completely. So according to you our universe could not exist. This of course may be a little way above your intelligence level but that’s not my problem.

The idea of time you moron, the idea of time. Time is space and you appear to be defining space as what is observed to the exclusion of what is unknown so please advise how you know that nothing can exists in the unknown? By definition it is unknown, yet you claim to know what the world leading cosmologist don’t know. Is this godmagic?

This of course is just one problem with godbots, they assume faith is fact and make stupid statements about subjects on which they are clueless based on their belief that faith has “truthiness”(not truth but truthiness) and so they screw everything else.

And you being a condescending moron only compounds your stupidity.
That definition was taken off Wikipedia yesterday. That's not out dated.
It's also in the current dictionary.

Why do you feel the need to change the definition of a word? Many scientist use the word Multi verse because they know the definition of the word universe. Are you too big admit a mistake? So you will now fight tooth and nail to change the meaning of the word universe. Will that make you feel better?

Fact: Universe means ALL Matter, Energy, space.

That is ALL not some but all as in every last one.

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#2041 Aug 8, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
It does not matter what you think, quantum theory exists and many of its hypotheses have been scientifically proven, you live everyday by it’s theories and quantum physics allows you to live the lifestyle you have become accustomed.

However yes wiki has it correct, that is the whole idea of science that for some reason godbots have trouble grasping. The idea is to learn and understand, if a new discovery is validated and found to supersede an older idea then yes that older idea is superseded. Godbots should take a leaf out of the science book however godbots don’t seem to possess the learning gene.

I think it rather amusing that you can criticise quantum science by using devices designed and empowered by the work of quantum scientist, such a hypocritical godbot you are.

Have you ever considered that perhaps gravity cannot be explained in the same language as other aspects of QM, scientist have. However you are using old/outdated quotations to make your outdated assumption. The work of Dr Param Singh now allows the mathematics of the atomic and the mathematics of the quantum to be seamlessly worked.

More confusion of the ignorant, quantum physics does not include the atom but the sub atomic as in the structure of the atom. What you are saying is the study of the mud that creates a brick is the same as the study of a house.

Not quite, but it is a dream of science to come up with a theory of everything, general relativity does not cut the mustard as far as everything goes. However you could try 42, once again a little above your intelligence level?

Again you are out of date, for at least 3 years the properties of a black hole have been calculable using Singh mathematics.

Again, Greene is out of date just as you are. Singhs mathematics provides the bridge

Once again, Singhs mathematics are the grease that freed up the projector. The laws of the atomic and the laws of the quantum no longer break down, the reason they did break down in the past is that we did not have the knowledge, now science has provided that knowledge.
Wow I thought you said you were intelligent.

"quantum theory exists and many of its hypotheses have been scientifically proven"

QM has been scientifically proven to fail.

Out dated scientific data? So what you're saying is that if a theory is proven wrong if you wait it will not matter?
So in your world time passing makes a scientific failures irrelevant.

Why then does evolution require so much time? For the same reason? To make scientific failures irrelevant?

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#2042 Aug 8, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>You never moved on from the junior book of space, did you?

Back to school with you, twart.
Look who really needs to go back to school.

Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>What percentage of the time is that wrong?
Nearly 50%.
So I don't really think you're an authority on "Pluto's place", twart.

50%. LMFAO

What a dolt!

"Is Pluto sometimes closer to us than Neptune?

Because Pluto has an orbit around the sun which is very elliptical, there are times when it crosses Neptune's orbit and is actually closer to the sun than Neptune. This happened recently during a twenty year period from 1979 to 1999. For now, Pluto is back to being farther away from the sun than Neptune. It will be more than 230 years before Pluto and Neptune trade places again. Pluto slips inside of Neptune's orbit once every 248 Earth years for a period of twenty years."

That's less then 10%.

What a nut job.

Oh and it will be 230 more years that I'm right with my comment.

Ya you sure showed me. Bawhahaha

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#2043 Aug 8, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Real science?
Is evolution real science?
Real science doesn't add a god in it

Yes!

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#2044 Aug 8, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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The Bible is the word of God.
If God did not exist there would be no Bible.
Time is proof of God.
hahaha no it isn't
hahaha no you're wrong
hahaha no it isn't

:D

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#2046 Aug 9, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Nope
Oh, my apologies, I did not realise you were christian (LOL)

You made a statement – agreed.

You denied that statements – agreed

In both cases the evidence is here on this very thread so there is no way you can deny the facts without lying

No the answer may be Nope in the make believe world of christianity but in the real world, the one where people live the answer is yes

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#2047 Aug 9, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Do you believe in evolution?
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Do you believe in evolution?
I know evolution to be factual, that is not belief, that is knowledge proved by evidence.

I have seen and studied some of the evidence in the Cro Magnon,. Tiktaalik roseae is a transitional fossil between fish and amphibians. Gogonasus had adapted it’s fins so it was strong enough to support its weight in shallow water and propel itself along, i.e. a transitional species between water and land and of course DNA evidence is irrefutable. I find it highly amusing that the average funnymentalist is quite willing to condemn a suspected murderer to execution on nothing but DNA evidence yet they deny the accuracy of that same evidence when it proves evolution.

Evolution can be seen occurring as we speak in the Langkawi bent-toed gecko (Cyrtodactylus macrotuberculatus) and several other animals.

Recent evidence of evolution includes the three-toed sloth (Bradypus pygmaeus)

However I will ask what this has to do with your belief in paedophile preachers?

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#2048 Aug 9, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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That definition was taken off Wikipedia yesterday. That's not out dated.
It's also in the current dictionary.
Why do you feel the need to change the definition of a word? Many scientist use the word Multi verse because they know the definition of the word universe. Are you too big admit a mistake? So you will now fight tooth and nail to change the meaning of the word universe. Will that make you feel better?
Fact: Universe means ALL Matter, Energy, space.
That is ALL not some but all as in every last one.
Wikipedia is not a dictionary nor is it a reference, nor, it is open to editing by anyone at anytime. Please supply the link to your definition and I will supply you with a link to the history of edits for the page.

What is the current dictionary?

I have no need to change the definition, it is the definition in the DICTIONARIES which I cited. I supplied links to 2 definitions from dictionaries, can you say the same – hell no…

No mistake, that is why I cited 2 DICTIONARY definitions, whassup are you too sh|t scared to admit your mistake.

Science is not really bothered what some godbot of little intelligence believes.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#2049 Aug 9, 2013
The line from the Sun to Pluto is ~90 degrees to the line from the Sun to Neptune. This angle is currently increasing. See here:

http://www.solarsystemscope.com

So twart, in your retarded reality, something 10 miles east is "past" something 8 miles North.

No.

Wrong.

The word(s) you're looking for is/are "farther (than)"
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>
I was not wrong. Pluto is past Neptune.
Need me to bring forth your embarrassing post again?

“When you treat people as they ”

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#2050 Aug 9, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Wow I thought you said you were intelligent.
"quantum theory exists and many of its hypotheses have been scientifically proven"
QM has been scientifically proven to fail.
Out dated scientific data? So what you're saying is that if a theory is proven wrong if you wait it will not matter?
So in your world time passing makes a scientific failures irrelevant.
Why then does evolution require so much time? For the same reason? To make scientific failures irrelevant?
Nope I never said that, you are having wet dreams again, however I am probably considerably more intelligent that you. Actually judging from the content of your posts you can forget the probably.

As mentioned previously, a point to which you have not had the balls to respond. I find it amusing (and hypocritical of you) how you can use a computer to claim that quantum theory has failed. Your ignorance does you proud.

Diodes, transistors, integrated circuits all employ the knowledge gained from (your claimed failed) QM and work only because of the quantum properties of substances. The materials that they are made of and provide the power and communication signals are designed using methods and materials developed from the knowledge gained from (your claimed failed) QM.

Even by the high standards imposed by christianity what you claim and how you claim it are masterpieces of hypocrisy

So please advise, a simple link will do to anywhere that claims that QM has failed, come on, be honest (I know you are christian and such a concept is difficult for you but I beseech you to try, if only to justify your own ignorance). Then we can analyse whether you are discussing with scientific justification or some godbot rambling with it’s own agenda of deliberate ignorance?

Something like that yes, if a theory is superseded by a stronger theory then the superseded theory is outdated. That my dear little ignoramus is called progress and such progress accounts for such luxuries as (arguably) adequate food (arguably) clean water,(definitely and conveniently) transport infrastructure,(definitely and conveniently) ease of communication (you used a computing device to make your post), weather prediction, lighting, sufficient and adequate clothing etc etc. etc.

Consider medical science, would you want your doctor to be au fait with the latest medical technology or would you prefer being treated with herbs by a shaman?

Whatever, you are welcome to live a bronze age lifestyle if you wish, just dump your computer and don’t forget to turn the lights out when you go looking for a free space to build your mud hut.

Contrary to your limited understanding all scientific failures are eventually, simple failures, they may or may not be irrelevant. In fact I cannot ever remember one irrelevant scientific theory, failure or not they drive the desire for understanding and knowledge and such a desire is never irrelevant (except to people like you)

Nope not for the same reason, Evolution requires time because there is no god to do it instantly by magic. For the most part evolution is factual and proven (I have seen and examined a small portion of the evidence myself). Some minor (and it will be minor) changes may occur in the theory as knowledge is advanced just as minor changes have occurred over the years since the pre christian Greeks first conceived the idea of evolution based on their findings and understanding of fossils. As knowledge has been acquired there has also been minor changes that have modified Darwin’s work. This of course does not mean they were wrong, what it means is that they did not have all the facts we have now and so built on what they knew with the information available at the time.

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#2051 Aug 9, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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I was not wrong. Pluto is past Neptune.
Need me to bring forth your embarrassing post again?
Not past, wrong word, will you ever get "past" being wrong?(tribute to T)

Lets assume you mean further away.

Although fairly simply on a day by day basis orbital mechanics is far beyond your understanding. On the longer term planetary gravity has a considerable influence but we will ignore that in this post.

Depends where you stand, in the case of orbits of Sol system planets the place that makes most sense is Sol. And of course the relative positions of Pluto and Neptune to your vantage point. There is one point of a few degrees in their orbit in which Pluto passes within the orbit of Neptune (relative to the sun).

http://www.bobthealien.co.uk/nepplut.gif

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#2052 Aug 9, 2013
Thinking wrote:
The line from the Sun to Pluto is ~90 degrees to the line from the Sun to Neptune. This angle is currently increasing. See here:
http://www.solarsystemscope.com
So twart, in your retarded reality, something 10 miles east is "past" something 8 miles North.
No.
Wrong.
The word(s) you're looking for is/are "farther (than)"
<quoted text>
That is a beautiful link.

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#2053 Aug 9, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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The Bible is the word of God.
If God did not exist there would be no Bible.
Time is proof of God.
its because you're ignorant that you cannot prove any of what you say.

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