The Myth of the Big Bang
Thinking

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#2010 Aug 6, 2013
You might want to try that it in English.

You're "past" it!
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Last time I saw you, you had your tail between your legs and you were running for the hills. LOL.
THOUGHT you would show your face around here so soon. Wow.

“I started out with nothing”

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#2011 Aug 6, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Your right, I'm bad.
The word you are looking for is “liar” but hey, you are christian so it was completely was expected that you lie.

“I started out with nothing”

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and still got most of it left

#2012 Aug 6, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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You have a very sick mind. Full of worm holes.
Is this your fantasy?
What makes you say that? Is it good old christian deliberate ignorance and guesswork?

Fantasy? The though of a preacher sickens me, from what I hear their ranks comprise of paedophiles and scroungers.

But we can see that such a lifestyle choice turns you on

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#2013 Aug 6, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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LOL
"Neither you, nor anyone else has any idea whether anything can exist outside time "
No I Know as well as all of science KNOWS that nothing can exist without time.(You don't understand this, is it over your head? Fourth grade science too much for you?)
If there is no time there can be nothing.
FACT
Honey, you are clueless to whom you are talking and so spout a load of rubbish as is often spoken by the deliberately ignorant when they are clueless or simply guessing.

Time : A continuous, measurable quantity in which events occur in a sequence proceeding from the past through the present to the future.

As far as science (excluding quantum science) goes that’s it, there are similar definitions but unlike you, none make any claim about the unknown.

I have discussed time with a particle physicist who splits his valuable time between work at CERN, and teaching at PhD level in not one but two top flight universities

Time is a concept that we know relates to this universe at the atomic level. It may relate to other universes (if other universes exists) or it may not. It is possible that the event that created this universe created time, it is just as possible that time has always existed. No one knows not even your belief in goddidit by magic knows. But you are welcome to cite your belief as fact if that’s the only way you can get your god magic to make any sense. All it means is that you are lying, such a christian trait.

There is also quantum theory that tells us that particles are popping in and out of time all the time, i.e. particles in you body are doing exactly what you say cannot happen.

Even Stephen Hawking and world leading cosmologists such as Neil Turok do not know the answer so how the hell can you, a godbot with little knowledge and absolutely no understanding of science claim otherwise.

Because you are lying in the face of your god…

“Think&Care”

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#2014 Aug 6, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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LOL
"Neither you, nor anyone else has any idea whether anything can exist outside time "
No I Know as well as all of science KNOWS that nothing can exist without time.(You don't understand this, is it over your head? Fourth grade science too much for you?)
If there is no time there can be nothing.
FACT
Which shows your deity does not exist.

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#2015 Aug 6, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry you do not know anything about science
Don't be too sorry. I know more then you can imagine.

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#2016 Aug 6, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>Nope
Yup

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#2017 Aug 6, 2013
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>You might want to try that it in English.

You're "past" it!
What you can't read now?

"Last time I saw you, you had your tail between your legs and you were running for the hills. LOL.
THOUGHT you would show your face around here so soon. Wow. "

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#2018 Aug 6, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>The word you are looking for is “liar” but hey, you are christian so it was completely was expected that you lie.
No. I stated it as I wished to.

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#2019 Aug 6, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>What makes you say that? Is it good old christian deliberate ignorance and guesswork?

Fantasy? The though of a preacher sickens me, from what I hear their ranks comprise of paedophiles and scroungers.

But we can see that such a lifestyle choice turns you on
Just. Bit Of Hate detected here.

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#2020 Aug 6, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>Honey, you are clueless to whom you are talking and so spout a load of rubbish as is often spoken by the deliberately ignorant when they are clueless or simply guessing.

Time : A continuous, measurable quantity in which events occur in a sequence proceeding from the past through the present to the future.

As far as science (excluding quantum science) goes that’s it, there are similar definitions but unlike you, none make any claim about the unknown.

I have discussed time with a particle physicist who splits his valuable time between work at CERN, and teaching at PhD level in not one but two top flight universities

Time is a concept that we know relates to this universe at the atomic level. It may relate to other universes (if other universes exists) or it may not. It is possible that the event that created this universe created time, it is just as possible that time has always existed. No one knows not even your belief in goddidit by magic knows. But you are welcome to cite your belief as fact if that’s the only way you can get your god magic to make any sense. All it means is that you are lying, such a christian trait.

There is also quantum theory that tells us that particles are popping in and out of time all the time, i.e. particles in you body are doing exactly what you say cannot happen.

Even Stephen Hawking and world leading cosmologists such as Neil Turok do not know the answer so how the hell can you, a godbot with little knowledge and absolutely no understanding of science claim otherwise.

Because you are lying in the face of your god…
LOL!!

"Time is a concept that we know relates to this universe at the atomic level. It may relate to other universes"

Other universes?
Do you even know what the definition of the word universe is?

Definition of UNIVERSE:
All matter, Space, And Energy.

That's ALL!

UNI - One

Not one of many. LOL

Try the words Multi verse next time junior.

"Time is a concept". Really a concept? LOL.

Time is a dimension and nothing can exist with out it in THE one and only Universe.

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#2021 Aug 6, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>Honey, you are clueless to whom you are talking and so spout a load of rubbish as is often spoken by the deliberately ignorant when they are clueless or simply guessing.

There is also quantum theory that tells us that particles are popping in and out of time all the time, i.e. particles in you body are doing exactly what you say cannot happen.

Even Stephen Hawking and world leading cosmologists such as Neil Turok do not know the answer so how the hell can you, a godbot with little knowledge and absolutely no understanding of science claim otherwise.

Because you are lying in the face of your god…
"quantum theory"

There should not be QM theory

"Wikipedia:
If anyone finds a case where all or part of a scientific theory is false, then that theory is either changed or thrown out.

A scientific theory in one branch of science must hold true in all of the other branches of science.

From Nova:

"For decades, every attempt to describe the force of gravity in the same language as the other forces—the language of quantum mechanics—has met with disaster

S. JAMES GATES, JR.: You try to put those two pieces of mathematics together, they do not coexist peacefully.
The laws of nature are supposed to apply everywhere. So if Einstein's laws are supposed to apply everywhere, and the laws of quantum mechanics are supposed to apply everywhere, well you can't have two separate everywheres.

BRIAN GREENE: In the years since, physics split into two separate camps: one that uses general relativity to study big and heavy objects, things like stars, galaxies and the universe as a whole...

...and another that uses quantum mechanics to study the tiniest of objects, like atoms and particles. This has been kind of like having two families that just cannot get along and never talk to each other...
There just seemed to be no way to combine quantum mechanics...

and general relativity in a single theory that could describe the universe on all scales.

So here's the question: if you're trying to figure out what happens in the depths of a black hole, where an entire star is crushed to a tiny speck, do you use general relativity because the star is incredibly heavy or quantum mechanics because it's incredibly tiny?

Well, that's the problem. Since the center of a black hole is both tiny and heavy, you can't avoid using both theories at the same time. And when we try to put the two theories together in the realm of black holes, they conflict. It breaks down. They give nonsensical predictions. And the universe is not nonsensical; it's got to make sense.

BRIAN GREENE: It's a little known secret but for more than half a century a dark cloud has been looming over modern science. Here's the problem: our understanding of the universe is based on two separate theories. One is Einstein's general theory of relativity—that's a way of understanding the biggest things in the universe, things like stars and galaxies. But the littlest things in the universe, atoms and subatomic particles, play by an entirely different set of rules called, "quantum Mechanics"

These two sets of rules are each incredibly accurate in their own domain but whenever we try to combine them, to solve some of the deepest mysteries in the universe, disaster strikes.

Take the beginning of the universe, the "big bang." At that instant a tiny nugget erupted violently. Over the next 14 billion years the universe expanded and cooled into the stars, galaxies and planets we see today. But if we run the cosmic film in reverse, everything that's now rushing apart comes back together, so the universe gets smaller, hotter and denser as we head back to the beginning of time.

As we reach the big bang, when the universe was both enormously heavy and incredibly tiny, our projector jams. Our two laws of physics, when combined, break down."

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#2023 Aug 6, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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"quantum theory"
There should not be QM theory
Well, there is. it is also one of the most successful theories humans have ever found. It helps to explain everything from the color of the dye in your clothes to they way the sun gets energy, to why and which metals are good conductors.

Your lack of understanding about how science works (as shown by your spam) is irrelevant to the success or existence of quantum theory.

“Think&Care”

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#2024 Aug 6, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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LOL!!
"Time is a concept that we know relates to this universe at the atomic level. It may relate to other universes"
Other universes?
Do you even know what the definition of the word universe is?
Definition of UNIVERSE:
All matter, Space, And Energy.
That's ALL!
UNI - One
Not one of many. LOL
Try the words Multi verse next time junior.
"Time is a concept". Really a concept? LOL.
Time is a dimension and nothing can exist with out it in THE one and only Universe.
It is amusing to watch how you insist on being clueless.

“There is no god!”

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Södertälje, Sweden

#2025 Aug 6, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Don't be too sorry. I know more then you can imagine.
Shows that your imagination is strong and you still don't know anything about real science

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

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#2026 Aug 6, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Yup
Nope

(bible is not proof)
Thinking

UK

#2027 Aug 7, 2013
Will you ever get "past" being wrong?
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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What you can't read now?
"Last time I saw you, you had your tail between your legs and you were running for the hills. LOL.
THOUGHT you would show your face around here so soon. Wow. "

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#2029 Aug 7, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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No. I stated it as I wished to.
Yet it was still a lie and attempting to cover it up does your credibility not the slightest good

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#2030 Aug 7, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Just. Bit Of Hate detected here.
Nope just fact, simply because the facts do not agree with your belief in the sanctity of paedophiles in no way implies hate.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#2031 Aug 7, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL!!
"Time is a concept that we know relates to this universe at the atomic level. It may relate to other universes"
Other universes?
Do you even know what the definition of the word universe is?
Definition of UNIVERSE:
All matter, Space, And Energy.
That's ALL!
UNI - One
Not one of many. LOL
Try the words Multi verse next time junior.
"Time is a concept". Really a concept? LOL.
Time is a dimension and nothing can exist with out it in THE one and only Universe.
Yes, do you? Or do you simply agree with the outdated explanation taught to you in the 9th grade?

So we can assume judging by your statement that there is nothing outside the (for example) fashion universe? or the “media” universe”?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/univer...
Universe :
1/ The totality of “known” or “supposed” objects and phenomena throughout space; the cosmos; macrocosm.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/uni...
1/ the whole body of things and phenomena “observed” or “postulated”

Note I included the quotes. I consider both these definitions to be scientifically more accurate than the limited, old fashioned and increasingly more inaccurate “All matter, Space, And Energy.”

Then of course you could consider keeping up to date by doing a little research using papers published by people who actually study the universe and the possibility of “other” universes, try http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/ to begin educating yourself. They do not say other universes exist but they do not preclude the possibility. The old fashioned idea of “one” is just that, an old fashioned idea, both scientifically and mathematically the idea of one makes little sense. However in the godbot world it’s the only thing that can make sense of goddidt with magic.

If our universe is not the only universe then could you please advise of the fundamental laws of those alternate universes. Do those laws allow such niceties as gravity, space and time? who knows? Or do they even allow cause and effect as defined by the second law of thermodynamics? Which incidentally did not completely resolve in our universe until around 10^-23th of a second after the event of the BB. Time as we know it (the arrow of time) could not have existed in our universe until the second law of thermodynamics resolved completely. So according to you our universe could not exist. This of course may be a little way above your intelligence level but that’s not my problem.

The idea of time you moron, the idea of time. Time is space and you appear to be defining space as what is observed to the exclusion of what is unknown so please advise how you know that nothing can exists in the unknown? By definition it is unknown, yet you claim to know what the world leading cosmologist don’t know. Is this godmagic?

This of course is just one problem with godbots, they assume faith is fact and make stupid statements about subjects on which they are clueless based on their belief that faith has “truthiness”(not truth but truthiness) and so they screw everything else.

And you being a condescending moron only compounds your stupidity.

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