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<quoted text>Bollocks.
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>What percentage of the time is that wrong?
Nearly 50%.
So I don't really think you're an authority on "Pluto's place", twart.

50%. LMFAO

What a dolt!

"Is Pluto sometimes closer to us than Neptune?

Because Pluto has an orbit around the sun which is very elliptical, there are times when it crosses Neptune's orbit and is actually closer to the sun than Neptune. This happened recently during a twenty year period from 1979 to 1999. For now, Pluto is back to being farther away from the sun than Neptune. It will be more than 230 years before Pluto and Neptune trade places again. Pluto slips inside of Neptune's orbit once every 248 Earth years for a period of twenty years."

That's less then 10%.

What a nut job.

Oh and it will be 230 more years that I'm right with my comment.

Ya you sure showed me. Bawhahaha

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The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>What percentage of the time is that wrong?
Nearly 50%.
So I don't really think you're an authority on "Pluto's place", twart.
50%. LMFAO
What a dolt!
"Is Pluto sometimes closer to us than Neptune?
Because Pluto has an orbit around the sun which is very elliptical, there are times when it crosses Neptune's orbit and is actually closer to the sun than Neptune. This happened recently during a twenty year period from 1979 to 1999. For now, Pluto is back to being farther away from the sun than Neptune. It will be more than 230 years before Pluto and Neptune trade places again. Pluto slips inside of Neptune's orbit once every 248 Earth years for a period of twenty years."
That's less then 10%.
What a nut job.
Oh and it will be 230 more years that I'm right with my comment.
Ya you sure showed me. Bawhahaha
Spamming the forum with creationist propaganda will not make your mental illness apply to atheists. All you need to do is become brave and prove the god you're here to lie about.

That way you will convert us all, instead of looking like an insane freak.

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"Such a scenario isn’t as crazy as it sounds. Our universe is expanding and becoming increasingly dilute, and the high-entropy future will be one in which space is essentially empty. But quantum mechanics assures us that empty space is not a quiet, boring place; it’s alive and bubbling with quantum fluctuations—ephemeral, virtual particles flitting in and out of existence. According to a theory known as the “inflationary universe scenario,” all we need is for a tiny patch of space to be filled with a very high density of dark energy—energy that is inherent in the fabric of space itself. That dark energy will fuel a spontaneous, super-accelerated expansion, stretching the infinitesimal patch to universal proportions.
Empty space, in which omnipresent quantum fields are jiggling back and forth, is a natural, high-entropy state for the universe. Eventually (and we’re talking about a really, really big eventually) the fluctuations will conspire in just the right way to fill a tiny patch of space with dark energy, setting off the ultra-fast expansion. To any forms of life arising afterward, such as us, the inflation would look like a giant explosion from which the universe originated, and the quiescent background—the other universes—would be completely unobservable. Such an occurrence would look exactly like the Big Bang and the universe we experience.
The most appealing aspect of this idea, Chen and I have argued, is that over the vast scale of the entire universe, time is actually symmetric and the laws truly don’t care about which direction it is moving. In our patch of the cosmos, time just so happens to be moving forward because of its initial low entropy, but there are others where this is not the case. The far past and the far future are filled with these other baby universes, and they would each think that the other had its arrow of time backwards. Time’s arrow isn’t a basic aspect of the universe as a whole, just a hallmark of the little bit we see. Over a long enough period of time, a baby universe such as ours would have been birthed into existence naturally. Our observable universe and its hundred billion galaxies is just one of those things that happens every once in a while, and its arrow of time is just a quirk of chance due to its beginnings amid a sea of universes.
Such a scenario is obviously speculative, but it fits in well with modern ideas of a multiverse with different regions of possibly distinct physical conditions. Admittedly, it would be hard to gather experimental evidence for or against this idea. But science doesn’t only need evidence, it also needs to make sense, to tell a consistent story. We can’t turn eggs into omelets, even though the laws of physics seem to be perfectly reversible, and this brute fact demands an explanation. It’s intriguing to imagine that the search for an answer would lead us to the literal ends of the universe."
http://seedmagazine.com/content/article/time_...
Love it when creationists try to sound smart, write a whole paragraph ( or copy paste it)

But then produce NO EVIDENCE that the mental illness they call a religion is actually true or verified. They actually run away SCARED by the verification process.

This is because they know that they are liars. Why would anyone want to be part of such a dishonest cult that cannot product evidence and instead insults its prospective memenrs when asked?
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#1952
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You thick twart.
Uranus and Pluto are on opposite sides of the Sun half of the time.
Why did you use the word "past" when "further" is what you meant?

So, yes, bollocks to you and all the errors you regurgitate on this forum.
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>What percentage of the time is that wrong?
Nearly 50%.
So I don't really think you're an authority on "Pluto's place", twart.
50%. LMFAO
What a dolt!
"Is Pluto sometimes closer to us than Neptune?
Because Pluto has an orbit around the sun which is very elliptical, there are times when it crosses Neptune's orbit and is actually closer to the sun than Neptune. This happened recently during a twenty year period from 1979 to 1999. For now, Pluto is back to being farther away from the sun than Neptune. It will be more than 230 years before Pluto and Neptune trade places again. Pluto slips inside of Neptune's orbit once every 248 Earth years for a period of twenty years."
That's less then 10%.
What a nut job.
Oh and it will be 230 more years that I'm right with my comment.
Ya you sure showed me. Bawhahaha

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#1953
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Your 3 BIG Myths:
1) the Big Bang when nothing exploded
and created everything.
2) rain falling on rocks and settling in a mud puddle and spontaneous self generating life sprang forth.
3) plants evolving into plant eating animals.
And when I snap my fingers you will wake up and believe these 3 myths as if they were fact.
"SNAP"
Your 3 big lies

1/ who said it was an explosion? The event of the big bang is proven in more than one way that it was a massif and violent expansion. Unlike goddidit (by magic from the same nothing that you decry science for) that is proven in no way.

2/ Who said it was mud? Thats what creatards think more intelligent people should believe, the fact that it is total hogwash is beside the point. There are several theories as to how life came into being and as far as I know none of them involve mud and most certainly none involve puddles. But hey, you continue spouting your hateful lies if such lies make you feel better in the eyes of your god.

3/ Yes, evolution is also proven in more than one way including DNA which the average godbot is quite happy to use its accuracy to convict a suspected criminal to execution but denies its accuracy in organic development

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Bollocks.
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I could not have put it better myself
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Cheers. Went to see Henning Wehn in a tiny room above a London pub last Saturday. He's a charming and funny man, had a lovely chat with him.
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I could not have put it better myself

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Cheers. Went to see Henning Wehn in a tiny room above a London pub last Saturday. He's a charming and funny man, had a lovely chat with him.
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Cool, never seen him live but would not object to an evening in his company. I remember watching QI when he was on the panel, and heard him of R4, such a wacky view of the world.

I heard he is doing the Edinburgh festival this year, I was making plans to go this weekend and hoped to see him there but unfortunately something came up (major meeting next Thursday) that requires quite a lot of work for the next few days.
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This was his final tryout for "The Comedy Trade Fair" (which is what he calls Edinburgh). Henning considers himself Cockney Westphalian. He's started to make up his own Cockney Westphalian slang.

"The Greek economy is in a right old Rudolf"
"I'm thirsty. Put on the Sebastian"

Some misses in with the hits but he is so likeable, almost vulnerable, that you just don't mind.
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Cool, never seen him live but would not object to an evening in his company. I remember watching QI when he was on the panel, and heard him of R4, such a wacky view of the world.
I heard he is doing the Edinburgh festival this year, I was making plans to go this weekend and hoped to see him there but unfortunately something came up (major meeting next Thursday) that requires quite a lot of work for the next few days.

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Thinking wrote:
This was his final tryout for "The Comedy Trade Fair" (which is what he calls Edinburgh). Henning considers himself Cockney Westphalian. He's started to make up his own Cockney Westphalian slang.
"The Greek economy is in a right old Rudolf"
"I'm thirsty. Put on the Sebastian"
Some misses in with the hits but he is so likeable, almost vulnerable, that you just don't mind.
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almost vulnerable yes, good description
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Without naming any names, Henning was talking about comedians writing shows about their dead or dying parents. We went to see Mark Thomas' "Bravo Figaro!" as an example of the genre.

Henning's dad had a terrible stroke back in May. "He's no good now he's not adding to Germany's GDP." But you could tell Henning was genuinely devastated. He can't do that material, he's just not hardened enough. I don't think he's got a nasty bone in his body. Now Linda Smith is dead, the only other quality comedian I can think of that isn't a piece of work is Mark Watson.
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Thinking wrote:
Without naming any names, Henning was talking about comedians writing shows about their dead or dying parents. We went to see Mark Thomas' "Bravo Figaro!" as an example of the genre.
Henning's dad had a terrible stroke back in May. "He's no good now he's not adding to Germany's GDP." But you could tell Henning was genuinely devastated. He can't do that material, he's just not hardened enough. I don't think he's got a nasty bone in his body. Now Linda Smith is dead, the only other quality comedian I can think of that isn't a piece of work is Mark Watson.
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Saw Mark Watson at the Apollo (Manchester) about 3 years ago, I was not too well at the time and dont really remember a great deal about it though.

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Your 3 BIG Myths:
1) the Big Bang when nothing exploded
and created everything.
Not what is believed. The Big Bang is NOT an explosion in any typical sense. And, if time began at the Big Bang (not known), then there was no existence 'before' the Big Bang. If time did NOT begin at the Big Bang, then there was something before it.
2) rain falling on rocks and settling in a mud puddle and spontaneous self generating life sprang forth.
Not what is believed. The most likely scenario for the origin of life is probably the chemistry around hydrothermal vents.
3) plants evolving into plant eating animals.
Again, not what is believed. Animals did not evolve from plants or vice versa. They both evolved from single-celled ancestors.
And when I snap my fingers you will wake up and believe these 3 myths as if they were fact.
"SNAP"
You keep lying about the beliefs of others even after your lies have been pointed out to you. That makes you both dishonest and dishonorable.
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That's a shame. I saw him in our Town Hall (200 seats) and then the Swan (1000 seats). I like the way he works the audience himself ages before the show starts.
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Saw Mark Watson at the Apollo (Manchester) about 3 years ago, I was not too well at the time and dont really remember a great deal about it though.

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<quoted text>Spamming the forum with creationist propaganda will not make your mental illness apply to atheists. All you need to do is become brave and prove the god you're here to lie about.

That way you will convert us all, instead of looking like an insane freak.
I have proven Gods existence.

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<quoted text>Love it when creationists try to sound smart, write a whole paragraph ( or copy paste it)

But then produce NO EVIDENCE that the mental illness they call a religion is actually true or verified. They actually run away SCARED by the verification process.

This is because they know that they are liars. Why would anyone want to be part of such a dishonest cult that cannot product evidence and instead insults its prospective memenrs when asked?
Oh little one (Septic) you fail in so many areas where do I begin...

Sorry you're not worth the effort.

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<quoted text>You thick twart.
Uranus and Pluto are on opposite sides of the Sun half of the time.
Why did you use the word "past" when "further" is what you meant?

So, yes, bollocks to you and all the errors you regurgitate on this forum.
LOL

Squirming trying to cover your big goof.

LOL

Pluto is outside (Past) Neptune's orbit over 80% of the time. Dolt.

Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>What percentage of the time is that wrong?
Nearly 50%.
So I don't really think you're an authority on "Pluto's place", twart.

50%. LMFAO

What a dolt!

"Is Pluto sometimes closer to us than Neptune?

Because Pluto has an orbit around the sun which is very elliptical, there are times when it crosses Neptune's orbit and is actually closer to the sun than Neptune. This happened recently during a twenty year period from 1979 to 1999. For now, Pluto is back to being farther away from the sun than Neptune. It will be more than 230 years before Pluto and Neptune trade places again. Pluto slips inside of Neptune's orbit once every 248 Earth years for a period of twenty years."

That's less then 10%.

What a nut job.

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<quoted text>Your 3 big lies

1/ who said it was an explosion? The event of the “big bang” is proven in more than one way that it was a massif and violent expansion. Unlike goddidit (by magic from the same nothing that you decry science for) that is proven in no way.

2/ Who said it was mud? That’s what creatards think more intelligent people should believe, the fact that it is total hogwash is beside the point. There are several theories as to how life came into being and as far as I know none of them involve mud and most certainly none involve puddles. But hey, you continue spouting your hateful lies if such lies make you feel better in the eyes of your god.

3/ Yes, evolution is also proven in more than one way including DNA which the average godbot is quite happy to use it’s accuracy to convict a suspected criminal to execution but denies it’s accuracy in organic development
"who said it was an explosion?"

The event of the “big bang” is proven in more than one way that it was a massif and violent expansion. Unlike goddidit (by magic from the same nothing that you decry science for) that is proven in no way.

"Who said it was mud? "

Not me. I said it was Goo!

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<quoted text>I could not have put it better myself
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<quoted text>Not what is believed. The Big Bang is NOT an explosion in any typical sense. And, if time began at the Big Bang (not known), then there was no existence 'before' the Big Bang. If time did NOT begin at the Big Bang, then there was something before it.

[QUOTE]2) rain falling on rocks and settling in a mud puddle and spontaneous self generating life sprang forth."

Not what is believed. The most likely scenario for the origin of life is probably the chemistry around hydrothermal vents.

[QUOTE]3) plants evolving into plant eating animals."

Again, not what is believed. Animals did not evolve from plants or vice versa. They both evolved from single-celled ancestors.

[QUOTE]And when I snap my fingers you will wake up and believe these 3 myths as if they were fact.
"SNAP""

You keep lying about the beliefs of others even after your lies have been pointed out to you. That makes you both dishonest and dishonorable.
"The Big Bang is NOT an explosion in any typical sense"

About 15 billion years ago a tremendous explosion started the expansion of the universe. This explosion is known as the Big Bang

http://www.umich.edu/~gs265/bigbang.htm

Astronomers Detect Most Powerful Explosion Since Big Bang

18 May 1998

The energy released in a cosmic gamma-rayburst detected in December 1997 is the most energy ever detected from an explosion in theUniverse, perhaps making it the most powerful explosion since the creation of the Universe in the Big Bang.

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/features/ne...

big bang

(bg)
The explosion of an extremely small, hot, and dense body of matter that, according to some cosmological theories, gave rise to the universe between 12 and 20 billion years ago.

Most astronomers now believe that the universe began around 12 billion years ago in a cataclysmic explosion we call the Big Bang

Most astronomers now believe that the universe began around 12 billion years ago in a cataclysmic explosion we call the Big Bang

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-1...

"Animals did not evolve from plants or vice versa"

Agreed. Because Macro Evolution is just a pipe dream with no testable fact behind it.

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