The Myth of the Big Bang
Thinking

Barnsley, UK

#1846 Mar 17, 2013
And I said WWII Germany was majority protestant.
You don't have to appeal to insipid language to justify your misunderstanding of what you read.
Just focus more seriously next time.
Shibolet wrote:
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I said MOST OF THEM WERE ATHEISTS. I did not say that Hitler was an atheist. I know he was a Catholic. You don't have to appeal to barbarian language to justify your misunderstanding of what you read. Just focus more seriously next time.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#1847 Mar 18, 2013

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#1848 Mar 18, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Reading books will not nullify your atheism
unless you are afraid of the printed page.
John Lukacs books on World War II
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…
sorry not instant gratification from the webs sites
Say what? You make a suggestion hoping to gain god points. I tell you that I have already (probably long before you were even a twinkle in your dads eye) have acted on that suggestion so you then poo poo that suggestion that you suggested on the grounds that I do not believe in your god? You really are pathetic, assuming you had any credibility before it’s all gone now.

Did you see the words I wrote –“verified documents”? I realise that being a godbot the term “verified”(like morality, theory, truth and witness) probably mean something completely different to you but that does not really make any difference to fact.

We are not interested in self confessed “personal views” of one author, but verified, documented facts. What Lukacs offers is a selected critique of Hitler that is based on very careful cherry picking and third hand comment. However he is a convincing writer with a good following in the chistian USA, he seems to have convinced you.

When asked about why he (Lukacs) repeatedly stated that “this is not a biography of Adolf Hitler” in the book “The Hitler of History," he replied “Because it might be misinterpreted.…” Looks like you misinterpret it or at least misinterpreted the title.

I’m not interested in the www either, except that the www allows access to academic and scholarly articles. Perhaps you should make use of this little known aspect of the web, it would save you looking so silly.

Hitler himself wrote,(which can be verified by official records) that he was baptised as Roman Catholic, he attended a monastery school, was an alter boy, confirmed as a “soldier of Christ and wanted to become a priest.

Many of his speeches are officially documented and reported by independent sources. So far have you anything that disproves this? Nope ok, I’ll carry on

How about the Vatican? Is that good enough for you? Pope Pius XII worked closely with Hitler, he allowed him (as well as Franco and Mussolini) several privileges. The German catholic church absorbed and preached Nazi ideals as part of their sermons.

Hitler’s birthday bashes were frequented by cardinals and other high church officials. Every year on April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin sent “warmest congratulations to the Hitler in the name of the bishops and the dioceses in Germany with “fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are sending to heaven on their altars.”

Hitler included christian doctrine in some of the laws he passed, for example he made all abortion and homosexuals illegal.

He regularly addressed the church and promised that Germany would implement its teachings. On 26 June 1934 “The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines, and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today.”

Finally the clincher is that he was never be excommunicated or in any other way officially censured by the Catholic Church

I am pretty certain that the Vatican knows a little but more about who is/isn’t was/wasn’t christian than you. But correct me it I am wrong.
Siro

Auburn, Australia

#1849 Mar 18, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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bitch, whinge,whine.....
You have a mouth like a bag of chips sprayed with mayonnaise.
You 50p slapper from the scabs bin in Tescos
Thinking

Barnsley, UK

#1850 Mar 18, 2013
You're a mess.
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a mouth like a bag of chips sprayed with mayonnaise.
You 50p slapper from the scabs bin in Tescos
Thinking

Barnsley, UK

#1851 Mar 18, 2013
Actually I'm already in a stand off on another car. I won't drive her husband's R8 V10 until she drives my Se7en. And he and I both know my older sister will never get hands dirty driving a Caterham...

All good natured fun, but the barracking is full on.
ChristineM wrote:
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Don’t get popups but ads, usually to the right of the page, one half way down and one at the bottom. Maybe I need to get our tecky to test out firefox
I changed it last December for another XKR.
Pauls Aston is a dream, he’s due to change in next December (change every 2 years one years apart), was thinking of an AMG black but these new Astons have him thinking.
I wish her well to drive it and pray that she gives you a go (best on a track)
<quoted text>
No. Just dark and sexy to go with the car;.

Since: Feb 13

El Monte, CA

#1852 Mar 18, 2013
Thinking wrote:
And I said WWII Germany was majority protestant.
You don't have to appeal to insipid language to justify your misunderstanding of what you read.
Just focus more seriously next time.<quoted text>
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Would Protestants ask "Where is your God Jew who doesn's come to the rescue" before torturing one or murdering him? I don't think so. This is akin to an atheistic way to blaspheme.
Thinking

Barnsley, UK

#1853 Mar 18, 2013
Would jewish israelis ask the same before firing white phosphorous at muslim Palestinian children?

Your argument is f**ked up.

Hitler was the catholic leader of a majority protestant Germany.
The holocaust was not Atheist.
Shibolet wrote:
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Would Protestants ask "Where is your God Jew who doesn's come to the rescue" before torturing one or murdering him? I don't think so. This is akin to an atheistic way to blaspheme.
Lincoln

United States

#1854 Mar 18, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Say what? You make a suggestion hoping to gain god points. I tell you that I have already (probably long before you were even a twinkle in your dads eye) have acted on that suggestion so you then poo poo that suggestion that you suggested on the grounds that I do not believe in your god? You really are pathetic, assuming you had any credibility before it’s all gone now.
Did you see the words I wrote –“verified documents”? I realise that being a godbot the term “verified”(like morality, theory, truth and witness) probably mean something completely different to you but that does not really make any difference to fact.
We are not interested in self confessed “personal views” of one author, but verified, documented facts. What Lukacs offers is a selected critique of Hitler that is based on very careful cherry picking and third hand comment. However he is a convincing writer with a good following in the chistian USA, he seems to have convinced you.
When asked about why he (Lukacs) repeatedly stated that “this is not a biography of Adolf Hitler” in the book “The Hitler of History," he replied “Because it might be misinterpreted.…” Looks like you misinterpret it or at least misinterpreted the title.
I’m not interested in the www either, except that the www allows access to academic and scholarly articles. Perhaps you should make use of this little known aspect of the web, it would save you looking so silly.
Hitler himself wrote,(which can be verified by official records) that he was baptised as Roman Catholic, he attended a monastery school, was an alter boy, confirmed as a “soldier of Christ and wanted to become a priest.
Many of his speeches are officially documented and reported by independent sources. So far have you anything that disproves this? Nope ok, I’ll carry on
How about the Vatican? Is that good enough for you? Pope Pius XII worked closely with Hitler, he allowed him (as well as Franco and Mussolini) several privileges. The German catholic church absorbed and preached Nazi ideals as part of their sermons.
Hitler’s birthday bashes were frequented by cardinals and other high church officials. Every year on April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin sent “warmest congratulations to the Hitler in the name of the bishops and the dioceses in Germany with “fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are sending to heaven on their altars.”
Hitler included christian doctrine in some of the laws he passed, for example he made all abortion and homosexuals illegal.
He regularly addressed the church and promised that Germany would implement its teachings. On 26 June 1934 “The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines, and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today.”
Finally the clincher is that he was never be excommunicated or in any other way officially censured by the Catholic Church
I am pretty certain that the Vatican knows a little but more about who is/isn’t was/wasn’t christian than you. But correct me it I am wrong.
"a twinkle in your dads eye.."

You are Truly
a Legend in
Your own Mind.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#1855 Mar 18, 2013
Hooray for Volkswagen and highways.
Lincoln

United States

#1856 Mar 18, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Would jewish israelis ask the same before firing white phosphorous at muslim Palestinian children?
Your argument is f**ked up.
Hitler was the catholic leader of a majority protestant Germany.
The holocaust was not Atheist.
<quoted text>
You may be too modest,
atheists were involved in the SS.

“Sweden more democratic thanUSA”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#1857 Mar 19, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
You may be too modest,
atheists were involved in the SS.
atheism was outlawed in christian nazi germany

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#1858 Mar 19, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a mouth like a bag of chips sprayed with mayonnaise.
You 50p slapper from the scabs bin in Tescos
Chips with mayo, hmmm, a Belgian delicacy…

Sprayed? Where wuz u brunged up? Can you really get spay on mayo? I know you can get spray on cheese in the US (the mind boggles) but spray on mayo? Must be an aussie thing.

What’s a scabs bin, sounds like something you are familiar with? Is that where you get your spray on mayo?

I don’t shop as Tescos except online when bulk buying coffee for the office, I just can’t get a decent supply of one cup etienne filters anywhere.

But you are welcome to your guesses and christian fuelled hatred, you will be able to intimately whisper all about it next time flossie the sheep allows you to screw her,(probably after church).

P.S. How’s you search for good porn getting on?

Hypocritical moron.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#1859 Mar 19, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Actually I'm already in a stand off on another car. I won't drive her husband's R8 V10 until she drives my Se7en. And he and I both know my older sister will never get hands dirty driving a Caterham...
All good natured fun, but the barracking is full on.
<quoted text>
I know which I prefer. Took a Se7en out at Castle Combe last year,(and later in the day a V8 Atom - wow)

Not really built for comfort on the road though.

Both have nothing on my birthday present – 10 laps in a Zonda R, that really was wow.

Was never too keen on Audi, the handling just does not seem right

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#1860 Mar 19, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
"a twinkle in your dads eye.."
You are Truly
a Legend in
Your own Mind.
Is that all you have to say?

Well I truly did not expect much more, egotestical (correct spelling) nuts like you never were able to argue with facts

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#1861 Mar 19, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
You may be too modest,
atheists were involved in the SS.
Wrong - The Reich and consequently the SS was a christian organisation, created by christians and run on christian principals. The SS were a group specially chosen from a population of christians inhabiting a country where atheism was banned by law

However there does seem to be a lot of christian/apologetics literature to deny this on the bases of “as christians we cannot condone what those German christians did so they cannot be christian as we are christian – I say so” and no evidence what so ever.

The holocaust was the direct result of a combination of his christianity and his disturbed personality. His religion fuelled hatred of the descendants of those he considered killed jesus who were also instrumental in the fall of Germany in WW1
Thinking

Barnsley, UK

#1862 Mar 19, 2013
The Audi has one saving grace, despite having a Lamborghini engine, it works as an everyday car. It even worked in the recent snow on summer tyres. But it doesn't have character.

The Zonda is a pretty car. I saw one in unpainted fibre. Looked great, but it rains too much here to keep bare fibre looking crisp.

You'll have to drive a Huayra next birthday.:)
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
I know which I prefer. Took a Se7en out at Castle Combe last year,(and later in the day a V8 Atom - wow)
Not really built for comfort on the road though.
Both have nothing on my birthday present – 10 laps in a Zonda R, that really was wow.
Was never too keen on Audi, the handling just does not seem right

“Sweden more democratic thanUSA”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#1863 Mar 19, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
atheism was outlawed in christian nazi germany
"We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."

-- Adolf Hitler, Speech in Berlin, October 24, 1933

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#1864 Mar 19, 2013
Thinking wrote:
The Audi has one saving grace, despite having a Lamborghini engine, it works as an everyday car. It even worked in the recent snow on summer tyres. But it doesn't have character.
The Zonda is a pretty car. I saw one in unpainted fibre. Looked great, but it rains too much here to keep bare fibre looking crisp.
You'll have to drive a Huayra next birthday.:)
<quoted text>
It rains too much here to keep most things looking crisp, you should see me after a days hiking in the lakes.

The R was literally orgasmic and the Huayra looks interesting but we’ll just have to wait and see, up to now Paul’s given no hint and it’s less than a month away, am I fretting? No way… not me…

Since: Feb 13

El Monte, CA

#1865 Mar 19, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Would jewish israelis ask the same before firing white phosphorous at muslim Palestinian children?
Your argument is f**ked up.
Hitler was the catholic leader of a majority protestant Germany.
The holocaust was not Atheist.<quoted text>
------

Most definitely yes. And every time to defend our children and civilians that they keep in uproar with their rockets fired at our towns almost daily. And BTW, all the five major wars we have fought
against them were wars of self defense started by themselves. What did you think that we are supposed to sit duck and be aimed at? That kind of holocaust Jew is possible only in the Diaspora. Don't worry, the Americans did worse to eliminate the native Indians when
they robbed them of their country.

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