The Myth of the Big Bang

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Mikko wrote:
God did it is enough for true believers (tm)
Yup.
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Mar 6, 2013
 
Has this been settled yet?

Or are there still idiots who think nothing exploded and created everything?
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Mar 7, 2013
 
Straw man.
KJV wrote:
Has this been settled yet?
Or are there still idiots who think nothing exploded and created everything?

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Shibolet wrote:
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After reading this post of yours, I have been left with the honest opinion that theists have the upper hand over the miscelaneous beliefs atheists are confused by.
Since christianity in North America alone has about 38,000 variations of what god is, I hardly think it is any christians place to suggest anyone is confused!
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The only one thing atheists seem to be sure of is that it is impossible that a Divine Creator could exist for the origin of the universe. Well, if not for any other reason, by default, theists have the upper hand.
Theists will take any answer to anything providing it supports their delusion.
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Regarding your "who created the Creator" what was there before the big bang which caused the universe to begin?
What was there before god, any idea? It is suggested that god has always been. If it is possible for something like god to always be then perhaps the universe has always been.

If a god was required to create everything, where did the matter to create come from?.........did god pull it all out of his ass?
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If you can answer that
question some theist could give you a reply about who created the Creator.
Theists are too stupid to reply to "who created the creator". When they get confused they sound just like you!

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KJV wrote:
Has this been settled yet?
Or are there still idiots who think nothing exploded and created everything?
Perhaps, but for sure there are idiots who think a god created everything.

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This is interesting.
http://phys.org/news126955971.html
One of the big debates currently in theoretical physics is between Loop Quantum Gravity and String Theory. Both purport to be quantum theories of gravity, but they make different predictions about the very early universe and/or what was before our universe. The 'Big Bounce' of LQG is only one of the possibilities.

But yes, it is interesting. It would be nice if we could figure out a way to test between the different possibilities.

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Since christianity in North America alone has about 38,000 variations of what god is, I hardly think it is any christians place to suggest anyone is confused!
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Theists will take any answer to anything providing it supports their delusion.
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What was there before god, any idea? It is suggested that god has always been. If it is possible for something like god to always be then perhaps the universe has always been.
If a god was required to create everything, where did the matter to create come from?.........did god pull it all out of his ass?
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Theists are too stupid to reply to "who created the creator". When they get confused they sound just like you!
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This time, the only thing I have learned from you is that there is absolutely no truth in hostility. When a debator uses hostility with his or her words, it only proves that he or she is desperately
verbal juggling to promote balderdash. The arrogance of atheists has never ceased amazing me. I would like to understand why atheists need to show how arrogant they can be. A message pushed forward with arrogance will never find a heart to consider what it
is trying to convey.

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Shibolet wrote:
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This time, the only thing I have learned from you is that there is absolutely no truth in hostility. When a debator uses hostility with his or her words, it only proves that he or she is desperately
verbal juggling to promote balderdash. The arrogance of atheists has never ceased amazing me. I would like to understand why atheists need to show how arrogant they can be. A message pushed forward with arrogance will never find a heart to consider what it
is trying to convey.
You seem to have found a way to avoid the argument; deflect.

Too bad, you are so weak.
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Ozada wrote:
<quoted text>If the bible has been right about anything it will have been entirely by chance and not inspiration.

The bible that we know was written by men for their own purpose and and not contracted out nor inspired by some god.

The idea that the bible was written by some divine inspiration has never been properly investigated nor has it been proved.

God, itself has never been proved to exist either, for that matter. To assume a book has been divinely inspired will require first a proof of there being a god....then we can decide if the bible has any value to it.
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And how did George Lemaitre find out the big bang in 1922, by inspiration or by chance? Besides, you seem to have been listening to too many theists of "talking serpents". God did not inspire anyone to write anything. The writers of the books in the Bible were inspired to write what they did. Then for the sake of piety they attributed it to "The Great Spirit" Creator of the universe.

Do you know why Carl Sagan referred to the big bang as "our modern myth" in his book "Cosmos" p. 285? Because it has never been investigated beyond the shadow of a doubt that the universe has indeed come out of a bang.
Don't wake them up. Let them keep on dreaming of this thing they call the big bang. It won't be anything like the big burst. That will be right after they die then their self inflated worth will be the first thing to pop in the flames.
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Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>Straw man.
No I'm the Tin Man!!
And the lion is right next to me.
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Ozada wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps, but for sure there are idiots who think a god created everything.
Yes even an idiot can tell what is real and what is made up by man.

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KJV wrote:
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Yes even an idiot can tell what is real and what is made up by man.
Don't be so hard on yourself.

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KJV wrote:
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Yes even an idiot can tell what is real and what is made up by man.
An idiot cannot see that man makes god in his own image.

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polymath257 wrote:
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One of the big debates currently in theoretical physics is between Loop Quantum Gravity and String Theory. Both purport to be quantum theories of gravity, but they make different predictions about the very early universe and/or what was before our universe. The 'Big Bounce' of LQG is only one of the possibilities.
But yes, it is interesting. It would be nice if we could figure out a way to test between the different possibilities.
Agreed

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KJV wrote:
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Yes even an idiot can tell what is real and what is made up by man.
Well, we agree on one thing, you are an idiot, there is hope for you yet.
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Ozada wrote:
<quoted text>An idiot cannot see that man makes god in his own image.
I guess you would be the expert on that.
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Mar 8, 2013
 
Ozada wrote:
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You seem to have found a way to avoid the argument; deflect.
Too bad, you are so weak.
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The truth is that I can discuss anything when I have to try to understand barbarian language.
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KJV wrote:
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Don't wake them up. Let them keep on dreaming of this thing they call the big bang. It won't be anything like the big burst. That will be right after they die then their self inflated worth will be the first thing to pop in the flames
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Thank you KJV but I am sorry to contradict you by saying that what expects us all after we die is the grave. That's what hell means according to Judaism. It is because of this kind of Christian literal beliefs that atheists laugh at all theists without distinction.
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Mar 8, 2013
 
Ozada wrote:
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An idiot cannot see that man makes god in his own image.
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And another idiot refuses to understand metaphorical language. God does not have image. Jesus himself said that God is pure Spirit. Spirits don't have image.(John 4:24) Man was created in the metaphorical image of God's attributes. Hence the reference is only to man and not to animals.

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