The Myth of the Big Bang

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Lil Ticked wrote:
I doubt it, but it is possible.
Here maybe this will help.
Stephen Hawking's "theories" on blackholes are about as valid in their proof as the Koran.
Lying Creationist poser ousted again for her stupidity and lies.

Nobody believes in your cult, go home, the show is over. Pray your kind spawn anothers palin creature that slips through the net and gets laughed down again by rational and sane society.

Typical - you can't come right up and say what you have to say, you hide behind the veil of your moniker and pretend to be agnostic.

Snivelling cowardly lying yet wholly inneffective cult scum.

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-Skeptic- wrote:
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Lying Creationist poser ousted again for her stupidity and lies.
Nobody believes in your cult, go home, the show is over. Pray your kind spawn anothers palin creature that slips through the net and gets laughed down again by rational and sane society.
Typical - you can't come right up and say what you have to say, you hide behind the veil of your moniker and pretend to be agnostic.
Snivelling cowardly lying yet wholly inneffective cult scum.
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The Myth of the Big Bang
Before you jump into the conclusion that I am about to bash the believers of this myth, I need to bring to your attention that the title of this thread, I have borrowed it from the great Astrophysicist Carl Sagan in his book "Cosmos," page 258.
After going through some quotations about the myths of creation, Carl Sagan refers to them as tributes to human audacity, being the chief difference between them and "our modern scientific myth of the big bang, that science is self-questioning through the performance of experiments and observations to test our ideas." Never mind how a myth can be tested or experimented upon.
The bottom line is that it was rather magnanimous of Carl Sagan to admit the big bang as no more, no less, a myth, just like any other mythological account of creation, which, nevertheless, is "equally worthy our deep respect." Here, Carl Sagan implies, IMHO, that the concept of probability is as good as gold in both cases: Creation and the big bang.
There are two modalities of beliefs: To believe by faith, when we don't know much about what we believe in, and to believe on the basis of probability, when even imaginable things move from zero to some possibility. To believe by faith, which leads to a claim or denial of anything as a fact, Carl Sagan calls it audacity, while king David calls it foolishness.(Psalm 14:1)
No wonder some theists charge atheists with equal need of faith to believe or to deny as both do each other. So, the only solution to this predicament is to believe on the basis of the concept of probability. Thus, audacity and foolishness are replaced by wisdom.
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You know what else is a myth?

Your everlasting fixation with your imaginary hallucination you call 'god'.

(god doesn't deserve a capital 'G')

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Just got my certificate of ordination. Anyone want to get married? I may or may not show up to preside over the services.

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Just got my certificate of ordination. Anyone want to get married? I may or may not show up to preside over the services.
What if I send a private jet to pick you up?

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<quoted text>What if I send a private jet to pick you up?
Depends on who you are getting married to.

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<quoted text>Depends on who you are getting married to.
Can we forget the marry part and enjoy the ride?

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<quoted text>Can we forget the marry part and enjoy the ride?
Fair enough. So, where is that jet?

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Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Dork
Piece of sh*t Creationist with no proof of god. Gets beaten in ewery single argument then f*cks off every two weeks.

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Piece of sh*t Creationist with no proof of god. Gets beaten in ewery single argument then f*cks off every two weeks.
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Good come back failed creationist liar with nothing of worth to dribble.

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Except.....there is no proof of this. None, just words in a old book.
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The proofs have been in the Scriptures for thousands of years. Since the Scriptures mean nothing to you, how about concrete proofs
that the universe came about as a result of the big bang?

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<quoted text>You know what else is a myth?
Your everlasting fixation with your imaginary hallucination you call 'god'.
(god doesn't deserve a capital 'G')
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How about your evelasting fixation with the imaginary hallucination
to claim that the big bang gave origin to the universe? Further more, why print Big Bang and not big bang? There are all kinds of hallucinations my friend, including that illusion. Anyway, what is life without illusions? That's what makes of it worthy living.

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Ben_Masada wrote:
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The proofs have been in the Scriptures for thousands of years. Since the Scriptures mean nothing to you, how about concrete proofs
that the universe came about as a result of the big bang?
Ben
How about concrete proofs that the people who wrote the scriptures are there to witness it? What, you can’t supply any, yet you want concrete proof of the opposing argument – how very hypocritical of you.

A Belgian priest named Georges Lemaître first suggested the big bang idea based on the observations of Edwin Hubble. It continues to be validated in different ways on a regular basis. But hey, we have been here several times and you ignored it so in you typical godbot way you go round and round again and get nowhere.

Evidence of the big bang

Hubble Diagram
Redshift (Large-scale homogeneity)
CMB and fluctuations in the CMB
Makeup of the Elements, the abundance of lighter elements
Observations of far galaxies and the Evolution of galaxies
Large-scale structure of the universe
Age of stars
Time dilation in supernova brightness curves

So lets look at your view of evidence from the scriptures – no one saw it, no one measured it but obviously godidit because god said so in the bronze age, that’s what you believe and that what you are sticking to – right?

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Good come back failed creationist liar with nothing of worth to dribble.
At least what I said was true.

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Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>At least what I said was true.
What part you lying creationist piece of sh*t troll.

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What part you lying creationist piece of sh*t troll.
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What part you lying creationist piece of sh*t troll.
I think that you meant.
What part? You lying piece of sh*t troll.

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P.s. Sam Harris is a self important douche bag.

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Lil Ticked wrote:
P.s. Sam Harris is a self important douche bag.
keep posting creationist scum, you look ridiculous.

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