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#1545
Oct 23, 2012
 
Langoliers wrote:
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I never left!
You maybe laughing but I never left so again you lie. No surprise a atheist lying.
Failed Creationist with no evidence of god, continuing to lie to intelligent people as though they don't remember a pathetic religious troll like yourself.

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Assume all you want. It makes no difference if you believe that I'm one person or many. I know my lighting fast wit makes it looks like I am many people.
I don't see how posting under two or more name accomplishes anything.
Why would? What's the advantage?
Sorry I don't get it.
Well enough on that let's get to atheist bashing, now that's fun!!
2.3% what a joke your religion is!
You claim all humans are born atheist.
Ok that means at one time you had 100% of the human population. The current percentage of the world population is at 2.3%.
That means that 97.7% of your congregation has left your faith!!
WTF is wrong with you guys?
97.7%!!!!!!!
Do you realize how many people that is?
Man your not just losing them at that rate there running from you! LMFAO
What wit? I must agree with VCP, you suffer delusions

If you were not posting under another sock and you were not posting under Langoliers then you weren’t here and so Sceptic was pointing out fact. Basically you lied.

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Where did you get your 2.3% from? Another christian lie? You do realise that lying does the decline of you faith no favours don’t you?

Take the US first - A 2004 BBC poll showed the number of people in the US who don't believe in a god to be about 9%. The most recent ARIS report, released March 9, 2009, found in 2008, 34.2 million Americans (15.0%) claim no religion. According to Yahoo News 19% American public now spurns organised religion in favour of a nondefined scepticism about faith. The Washington Post says -“The Global Index of Religiosity and Atheism,” found that the number of Americans who say they are “religious” dropped from 73 percent in 2005 to 60 percent.

Now combine the US with the rest of the world so you can’t forget Hindu, Buddhism, Sikhism, Shinto, Bahai and the hundreds of other non abrahamic faiths that have no belief in the abrahamic god

World wide there are around 18% of people who consider that they are not religious and that number is increasing plus 31% who have no belief on the abrahamic god. That’s 49% who have no belief in your god.

The 2.1 billion christians in the world (approx 33% and not 97.7%) comprise of over 38000 different squabbling sects and more than 60% of them are lying about it because they don’t believe in god but just follow a tradition.

World wide christianity has lost 8% of it’s following between 2000 and 2005

Islam is the only abrahamic faith that is increasing, the decline of christianity is outstripping it’s growth so as a whole faith in your god is going down the pan

What a joke your lying christianity is and what a joke you are.

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Indoctrination is a particularly insidious thing yet you seem to revel in it.

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WTF is wrong with deliberately ignorant morons like you? Are you really that delusional?– of course you are, you dream of incorrect assumption about 97.7% or is it 82% or is it 51% or is it 33% or is or is it 13.8% are all godbothering christians. See how you figures can be knocked down as lies when you include facts.

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BTW - According to the social attitudes survey in Europe in 2008the number of non religious people surpassed the number of christians for the first time in 1300 years

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

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Failed Creationist joke who lies about science.
Failed and delusional 97.7% wow, that’s not just delusional, that’s certifiably insane

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Oct 24, 2012
 
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Universe - Uni - one - Verse - spoken
Let there be light!
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LET THERE BE LIGHT, AND THERE WAS LIGHT

It has been an a "tohu vavohu" among many questioners, especially Christians, even many Jews, to come up with an explanation for that kind of light in Genesis 1:3 wen the sun, which gives light by day was created only on the 4th day of creation. The embarrassment is that at both, Atheists laugh. And not because they know any better in terms of an adequate answer, but for two other reasons: First, because they look for answer only in Science; and of course it is not there but in Theology. And in Theology, they laugh at us for they think that we are all speaking about an anthropomorphic god, which, as I don't blame them: It indeed never existed.

But what light is indeed the Torah writer referring to when he reports of God as declaring, "Let there be light?"

Since before the creation of the universe it was already in the designs of God to provide for salvation of Mankind a People whom salvation would come from, in the words of Jesus himself in John 4:22, that salvation comes from the Jews.

When for good, the Assyrians removed Israel from existence by replacing the Northern population of the Galilee with Gentiles, and after the Jews or Southern pupulation was taken for an temporary exile of 70 years in Babylon, and the time had arrived for their return to the Land of Israel, Prophet Isaiah said that the people who walked in darkness, he meant the Gentiles in Galilee, had seen a great light as the Jewish People was returning to the Land of Israel.(Isa. 9:2)

Then, later, he confirms that light of Genesis 1:3 when he explained that Israel had been assigned as light to the nations.(Isa. 42:6) But the light was to remain divided from the darkness, so that both should exist in the same world; although, in the language of the Essenes, there would always be a conflict between the children of Light and the children of darkness. Between Jews and Gentiles. Just as light cannot coexist together with darkness. Wheneverlight is come, dakness is gone.

Jesus was aware of this Light as he delivered his famous Sermon of the Mount to a crowd of Jews, when he said to them: "You are the Light of the world." (Mat. 5:14) The reason why he said "you are" and not "you have" is that what one has, it can be taken away, but what one is, he is no matter what. Individually, we have the light the world needs to know God. But as a People, we are that light of Genesis 1:3, which the world needs for salvation.

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Oct 24, 2012
 
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What would really make me happy is for you to admit you lied rather than making pathetic excuses for it. However I can see that is not going so another pleasing idea would be for you to butt out but there is not really much chance of that happening either.
You don’t like others to have views different from your that thought for you, not for anyone else.
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You are right; there is no chance I will ever butt out. Listen Christine, do you hate Jews? I am asking because that's what you are conveying with this hostile attitude towards me. And for your last statement above, you have rather described yourself as a frustrating person who just can't score one willing to admit your views. Sorry honey, but this way you have chosen to debate an issue will never give you that chance. In my case, nine persons have accepted Judaism. Seven from the Seventh-Day Adventist
Christian denomination and two from "Messianic Judaism."

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#1550
Oct 24, 2012
 
Langoliers wrote:
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Ben I think you misunderstood him.
He was just letting you know who you were dealing with. An atheist puppet.
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You are right. I misunderstood him.

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#1551
Oct 24, 2012
 
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>Failed Creationist joke who lies about science.
Do You believe all science is accurate?
Is your God Darwin?

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#1552
Oct 24, 2012
 
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>What wit? I must agree with VCP, you suffer delusions

Where did you get your 2.3% from? Another christian lie?

Now combine the US with the rest of the world so you canÂ’t forget Hindu, Buddhism, Sikhism, Shinto, Bahai and the hundreds of other non abrahamic faiths that have no belief in the abrahamic god

World wide there are around 18% of people who consider that they are not religious and that number is increasing plus 31% who have no belief on the abrahamic god. ThatÂ’s 49% who have no belief in your god.

The 2.1 billion christians in the world (approx 33% and not 97.7%) comprise of over 38000 different squabbling sects and more than 60% of them are lying about it because they donÂ’t believe in god but just follow a tradition.

World wide christianity has lost 8% of itÂ’s following between 2000 and 2005

Islam is the only abrahamic faith that is increasing, the decline of christianity is outstripping itÂ’s growth so as a whole faith in your god is going down the pan

What a joke your lying christianity is and what a joke you are.

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Indoctrination is a particularly insidious thing yet you seem to revel in it.

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WTF is wrong with deliberately ignorant morons like you? Are you really that delusional?– of course you are, you dream of incorrect assumption about 97.7% or is it 82% or is it 51% or is it 33% or is or is it 13.8% are all godbothering christians. See how you figures can be knocked down as lies when you include facts.

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BTW - According to the social attitudes survey in Europe in 2008the number of non religious people surpassed the number of christians for the first time in 1300 years

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
A survey published in the 2005 Encyclopedia Britannica stated that 2.3% of the world's population consists of individuals who profess "atheism, skepticism, disbelief, or irreligion, including the militantly antireligious." In regards to the 2.3% figure just mentioned, the 2005 survey cited by Encyclopedia Britannica survey did not include Buddhist in regards to the 2.3% figure and Buddhism can be theistic or atheistic."

Wikipedia:

"Another survey attributed to Britannica shows the population of atheists at around 2.4% of the world's population.[citation needed] It is difficult to determine whether atheism is growing or not"

Wikipedia :

"2005 poll by AP/Ipsos surveyed ten countries. Of the developed nations, people in the United States were most sure of the existence of God or a higher power (2% atheist, 4% agnostic)"

Wikipedia :

"According to one estimate, atheists make up about 2.3% of the world's population"

"In 2007, a Pew Forum survey found that the atheist population in the United States was 1.6% of the American population."

"Global atheism is shrinking and demographic changes in the United States and the world are expected to shrink the influence of American secularism.
In 2012, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary reported that globally every day there are 800 less atheists per day, 1,100 less non-religious (agnostic) people per day and 83,000 more people professing to be Christians per day.
In 2011, the American Spectator declared concerning research published in the International Bulletin of

Missionary Research:
The report estimates about 80,000 new Christians every day, 79,000 new Muslims every day, and 300 fewer atheists every day. These atheists are presumably disproportionately represented in the West, while religion is thriving in the Global South, where charismatic Christianity is exploding."

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Oct 24, 2012
 
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>Failed and delusional 97.7% wow, thatÂ’s not just delusional, thatÂ’s certifiably insane
No that's fact!

Posted earlier by derek4

Study: Atheists Have Lowest 'Retention Rate' Compared to Religious Groups

Only about 30 percent of those who grow up in an atheist household remain atheists as adults. This "retention rate" was the lowest among the 20 separate categories in the study.

There were 1,387 atheists (weighted) in the survey. Four-hundred thirty-two weighted respondents said they were raised atheist. Of those, 131 self-identified as atheist.

Continued:

Gray also noted that, "of those raised as atheists, 30% are now affiliated with a Protestant denomination, 10% are Catholic, 2% are Jewish, 1% are Mormon, and 1% are Pagan."

Jehovah's Witness, congregationalist and holiness churches had the next lowest retention rates at 37 percent, 37 percent and 32 percent, respectively. Thirty-eight percent of those who grew up with no particular religious faith or belief system remained that way.

Hindus had the highest retention rate at 84 percent, followed by Jews (76 percent), Muslims (76 percent), Greek Orthodox (73 percent), Mormons (70 percent) and Catholics (68 percent).

Baptists had the highest retention rate of the Protestant Christian categories at 60 percent, followed by Lutheran (59 percent) and Pentecostal (50 percent).
http://www.christianpost.com/news/study-athei...

[Right; NO thinking people don't want to be atheists.]

From: Deseret News / Salt Lake City, UT

July, 2012

“Atheists abandon their beliefs more often than people in other religious groups, study finds”

A new study has found that people raised in an atheist home abandon those beliefs as adults more often than people raised with other religious belief systems, putting atheism at a 30 percent retention rate. Conclusions and interpretations of the study are that atheists are more often "made" as adults rather than "raised." The highest retention rates are in the Hindu faith, which holds onto about 84 percent of adherents.

Those who grow up in an atheist household are least likely to maintain their beliefs about religion as adults, according to a study by Georgetown University's Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (CARA).

Only about 30 percent of those who grow up in an atheist household remain atheists as adults. This "retention rate" was the lowest among the 20 separate categories in the study.

There were 1,387 atheists (weighted) in the survey. Four-hundred thirty-two weighted respondents said they were raised atheist. Of those, 131 self-identified as atheist.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765589392/...

[Who would want to be an atheist? LOL]

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Oct 24, 2012
 
Ben_Masada wrote:
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LET THERE BE LIGHT, AND THERE WAS LIGHT

It has been an a "tohu vavohu" among many questioners, especially Christians, even many Jews, to come up with an explanation for that kind of light in Genesis 1:3 wen the sun, which gives light by day was created only on the 4th day of creation. The embarrassment is that at both, Atheists laugh. And not because they know any better in terms of an adequate answer, but for two other reasons: First, because they look for answer only in Science; and of course it is not there but in Theology. And in Theology, they laugh at us for they think that we are all speaking about an anthropomorphic god, which, as I don't blame them: It indeed never existed.

But what light is indeed the Torah writer referring to when he reports of God as declaring, "Let there be light?"

Since before the creation of the universe it was already in the designs of God to provide for salvation of Mankind a People whom salvation would come from, in the words of Jesus himself in John 4:22, that salvation comes from the Jews.

When for good, the Assyrians removed Israel from existence by replacing the Northern population of the Galilee with Gentiles, and after the Jews or Southern pupulation was taken for an temporary exile of 70 years in Babylon, and the time had arrived for their return to the Land of Israel, Prophet Isaiah said that the people who walked in darkness, he meant the Gentiles in Galilee, had seen a great light as the Jewish People was returning to the Land of Israel.(Isa. 9:2)

Then, later, he confirms that light of Genesis 1:3 when he explained that Israel had been assigned as light to the nations.(Isa. 42:6) But the light was to remain divided from the darkness, so that both should exist in the same world; although, in the language of the Essenes, there would always be a conflict between the children of Light and the children of darkness. Between Jews and Gentiles. Just as light cannot coexist together with darkness. Wheneverlight is come, dakness is gone.

Jesus was aware of this Light as he delivered his famous Sermon of the Mount to a crowd of Jews, when he said to them: "You are the Light of the world." (Mat. 5:14) The reason why he said "you are" and not "you have" is that what one has, it can be taken away, but what one is, he is no matter what. Individually, we have the light the world needs to know God. But as a People, we are that light of Genesis 1:3, which the world needs for salvation.

Ben
Thanks for the post. I enjoyed it and found it enlightening.

Yes he spoke all into existence.
UNI VERSE

Origin: Middle English, from Latin universum, from neuter of universus entire, whole, from uni-+ versus turned toward, from past participle of vertere to turn — more at worth.
First use: 14th century

uni-
prefix
: one : single <unicellular>
Origin: Latin, from unus — more at one.

verse[ vurs ]
noun
1.(not in technical use) a stanza.
2. a succession of metrical feet written, printed, or orally composed as one line; one of the lines of a poem.

The spoken word that created everything.

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You are right. I misunderstood him.
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You are right; there is no chance I will ever butt out. Listen Christine, do you hate Jews? I am asking because that's what you are conveying with this hostile attitude towards me. And for your last statement above, you have rather described yourself as a frustrating person who just can't score one willing to admit your views. Sorry honey, but this way you have chosen to debate an issue will never give you that chance. In my case, nine persons have accepted Judaism. Seven from the Seventh-Day Adventist
Christian denomination and two from "Messianic Judaism."
Ben
Why would I hate Jews? I dislike liars, whatever their belief, I hate terrorists, murderers and paedophiles, liars are not quite in the same category, but not far off. Just because you are Jewish does not make you a liar, what makes you a lair is your personality.

You can of course claim the religion card or the race card or any card you like, it makes no difference to fact that you have been caught lying and were challenged on the lie. For which you refuse even to acknowledge your lies and have now tried five different excuses to offload your guilt.

If truth is anathema to your debating method of :-
* see it your way or your opponent is using ad hominem’s,(most common)
* or you claim hyperbolism
* or you post sexist comments
* or offer sarcasm (something you are not suited to)
* or you claim racial or religious hatred
Then we can only assume that nine persons in your case is a lie too. Or perhaps you lied to them as you lie to everyone on topix in which case we are not talking religious conversion here but fraudulent abduction.

I have never seen anyone wriggle as much as you in the face of facts, you may think it clever but I can assure you most people can see right through you. You don’t like the facts of the matter then maybe you should have thought about that before LYING – or at least been man enough to accept those facts.

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Langoliers wrote:
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A survey published in the 2005 Encyclopedia Britannica stated that 2.3% of the world's population consists of individuals who profess "atheism, skepticism, disbelief, or irreligion, including the militantly antireligious." In regards to the 2.3% figure just mentioned, the 2005 survey cited by Encyclopedia Britannica survey did not include Buddhist in regards to the 2.3% figure and Buddhism can be theistic or atheistic."
Wikipedia:
"Another survey attributed to Britannica shows the population of atheists at around 2.4% of the world's population.[citation needed] It is difficult to determine whether atheism is growing or not"
Wikipedia :
"2005 poll by AP/Ipsos surveyed ten countries. Of the developed nations, people in the United States were most sure of the existence of God or a higher power (2% atheist, 4% agnostic)"
Wikipedia :
"According to one estimate, atheists make up about 2.3% of the world's population"
"In 2007, a Pew Forum survey found that the atheist population in the United States was 1.6% of the American population."
"Global atheism is shrinking and demographic changes in the United States and the world are expected to shrink the influence of American secularism.
In 2012, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary reported that globally every day there are 800 less atheists per day, 1,100 less non-religious (agnostic) people per day and 83,000 more people professing to be Christians per day.
In 2011, the American Spectator declared concerning research published in the International Bulletin of
Missionary Research:
The report estimates about 80,000 new Christians every day, 79,000 new Muslims every day, and 300 fewer atheists every day. These atheists are presumably disproportionately represented in the West, while religion is thriving in the Global South, where charismatic Christianity is exploding."
I still see no link to your source, your word is not enough however I have done the job for you, here are some links that actually quote the Encyclopaedia Britannica

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_...
1995 survey attributed to the Encyclopćdia Britannica indicates that the non-religious are about 14.7%… Another survey attributed to Britannica shows the population of atheists at around 2.4% of the world's population

Are you confused yet?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism
A 2005 survey published in Encyclopćdia Britannica found that the non-religious made up about 11.9% of the world's population, and atheists about 2.3%. This figure did not include those who follow atheistic religions, such as some Buddhists.[

Nor other non religious and believers in other deities to Abrahamic god, note that there are over 3700 other deities

More confusion?

So you see quoting figures out of context is not really the way forward is it? it just means that you are quoting figures out of context and makes you look silly(er)

And then making up other figures (97.7%) assuming that your out of context 2.3% means that everyone else thinks you way is just pathetic

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Langoliers wrote:
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No that's fact!
Posted earlier by derek4
Study: Atheists Have Lowest 'Retention Rate' Compared to Religious Groups
Only about 30 percent of those who grow up in an atheist household remain atheists as adults. This "retention rate" was the lowest among the 20 separate categories in the study.
There were 1,387 atheists (weighted) in the survey. Four-hundred thirty-two weighted respondents said they were raised atheist. Of those, 131 self-identified as atheist.
Continued:
Gray also noted that, "of those raised as atheists, 30% are now affiliated with a Protestant denomination, 10% are Catholic, 2% are Jewish, 1% are Mormon, and 1% are Pagan."
Jehovah's Witness, congregationalist and holiness churches had the next lowest retention rates at 37 percent, 37 percent and 32 percent, respectively. Thirty-eight percent of those who grew up with no particular religious faith or belief system remained that way.
Hindus had the highest retention rate at 84 percent, followed by Jews (76 percent), Muslims (76 percent), Greek Orthodox (73 percent), Mormons (70 percent) and Catholics (68 percent).
Baptists had the highest retention rate of the Protestant Christian categories at 60 percent, followed by Lutheran (59 percent) and Pentecostal (50 percent).
http://www.christianpost.com/news/study-athei...
[Right; NO thinking people don't want to be atheists.]
From: Deseret News / Salt Lake City, UT
July, 2012

Removed because of topic character count limitations

There were 1,387 atheists (weighted) in the survey. Four-hundred thirty-two weighted respondents said they were raised atheist. Of those, 131 self-identified as atheist.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765589392/...
[Who would want to be an atheist? LOL]
What fact? That 2.3% are declared atheist according to one survey? 14.09% are non religious, 13.26% are Hindu, 5.84% are Buddhist, 12.48% belong to none abrahamic religions

However other surveys say different
The BSA survey shows that over Europe the percentage of atheists varies between 1% in the most religious (and smaller/least inhabited countries to 33%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_...

Another says that atheism has increased by 9% in America since 2005
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/...

What study? A study carried out by on behalf of christian organisation by a committed christian on such a small sample is not a valid study.

Atheism is growing (particularly in America), Islam is growing, agnosticism is growing, wicca is growing, the pagan religions are growing again. In fact the only faith that I know to be shrinking is christianity

http://theweek.com/article/index/226625/the-r...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/01/a...
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2008-03-02/en...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index...
http://blog.californiapsychics.com/blog/2011/...
http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_nbr1.ht...
http://www.30-days.net/muslims/statistics/isl...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claims_to_be_the...

http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtop...
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/how...

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ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>I still see no link to your source, your word is not enough however I have done the job for you, here are some links that actually quote the Encyclopaedia Britannica

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_...
1995 survey attributed to the Encyclopædia Britannica indicates that the non-religious are about 14.7%… Another survey attributed to Britannica shows the population of atheists at around 2.4% of the world's population

Are you confused yet?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism
A 2005 survey published in Encyclopædia Britannica found that the non-religious made up about 11.9% of the world's population, and atheists about 2.3%. This figure did not include those who follow atheistic religions, such as some Buddhists.[

Nor other non religious and believers in other deities to Abrahamic god, note that there are over 3700 other deities

More confusion?

So you see quoting figures out of context is not really the way forward is it? it just means that you are quoting figures out of context and makes you look silly(er)

And then making up other figures (97.7%) assuming that your out of context 2.3% means that everyone else thinks you way is just pathetic
Your nuts!!!

You post that atheist make up 2.3% of the world population then claim it was taken out of context.

Your post "atheists about 2.3%."
Non believers and the others are no atheist I know you wish you had better number so you try and draw as many other into your clan. But that's just a lie. It says atheist 2.3% and that is about where it's at. I don't include all theist into Christianity.

Fact atheist claim everyone is born atheist. So atheist claim 100% of the human population was at one time atheist.

Fact the percentage of the population is at or around 2.3% today.
That would mean you have list 97.7% of you congregation. That is a very very very high rate of lose.

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ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>What fact? That 2.3% are declared atheist according to one survey? 14.09% are non religious, 13.26% are Hindu, 5.84% are Buddhist, 12.48% belong to none abrahamic religions

However other surveys say different
The BSA survey shows that over Europe the percentage of atheists varies between 1% in the most religious (and smaller/least inhabited countries to 33%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_...

Another says that atheism has increased by 9% in America since 2005
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/...

What study? A study carried out by on behalf of christian organisation by a committed christian on such a small sample is not a valid study.

Atheism is growing (particularly in America), Islam is growing, agnosticism is growing, wicca is growing, the pagan religions are growing again. In fact the only faith that I know to be shrinking is christianity

http://theweek.com/article/index/226625/the-r...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/01/a...
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2008-03-02/en...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index...
http://blog.californiapsychics.com/blog/2011/...
http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_nbr1.ht...
http://www.30-days.net/muslims/statistics/isl...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claims_to_be_the...

http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtop...
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/how...
Yes but we are talking about your faith atheist. Not Hindus.

Atheist 2.3%
Non-atheist 97.7%

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Your nuts!!!
You post that atheist make up 2.3% of the world population then claim it was taken out of context.
Your post "atheists about 2.3%."
Non believers and the others are no atheist I know you wish you had better number so you try and draw as many other into your clan. But that's just a lie. It says atheist 2.3% and that is about where it's at. I don't include all theist into Christianity.
Fact atheist claim everyone is born atheist. So atheist claim 100% of the human population was at one time atheist.
Fact the percentage of the population is at or around 2.3% today.
That would mean you have list 97.7% of you congregation. That is a very very very high rate of lose.
What are you on??

My wording was directly copied from you post - you post that 2.3% of the population are atheist.

Can you not even remember what you wrote – how sad

“I started out with nothing”

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Yes but we are talking about your faith atheist. Not Hindus.
Atheist 2.3%
Non-atheist 97.7%
You were talking about atheists as indicated in one survey, I showed you several others with different conclusions

Did you actually look at any of those links are can we assume that you are as ignorant as you were yesterday?

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2.3% what a joke your religion is!
You claim all humans are born atheist.
Ok that means at one time you had 100% of the human population. The current percentage of the world population is at 2.3%.
That means that 97.7% of your congregation has left your faith!!
WTF is wrong with you guys?
97.7%!!!!!!!
Do you realize how many people that is?
Man your not just losing them at that rate there running from you! LMFAO
Well I have already given you four independent and unbiased surveys, no one is really interested in christian faith websites and their deceptions and lies made in an effort to comfort christians. They just give people like you a warm and fluffy pink feeling that things are better then they really are, but you are welcome to delude yourself.

Here’s one comprising of either unbiased government surveys, censuses and national polls that tells a somewhat different and unbiased tale, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_...

In Europe the incidence of no belief on god varies from country to county between 1% and 33%, an average of 18% of three quarters of a billion people.(or almost 2% of the world population, are you telling me that countries like China will have no effect on that?)

A poll in 2004 by the BBC put the number of people in the UK who do not believe in a god at 39%, while a YouGov poll in the same year put the percentage of non-believers at 35%

Czech Statistical Office provided census information on the ten million people in the Czech Republic. 59% had no religion

France polls indicate 33% as atheist, 14% as agnostic, and 26% as "indifferent”

Note that the wikipedia BSA survey counted Britain, the Czech Republock and France as 20%, 30%and 33% respectively so you can say that the wikipedia figures are rather low but never mind, lets stick to wiki

Canadia - 23% said they did not believe in a god

America (USA) 16% declared they have no religious affiliation.

4.9% of Mexicans have no religion

South America varies from country to country from as low as 1.1% in Paraguay to between 8% and 17.2% for the more highly populated countries

How about Israel, surely there must not be any atheists there?– nope 5% claim to be anti-religious

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China 59% of the population claim to be non-religious. That’s 59% of 18% of the worlds population – that equals 10.6% of the WORLD population in one country so I guess your surveys forgot to count china or perhaps they were done with christian bias
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Vietnam, up to 81% of the population are atheists, agnostics, or non-believers

Australia 22.3% reported no religion

New Zealand 34.7% indicated no religion

So we can only assume your are lying for you god or your christian websites are lying for your god. Which is it?

China on it’s own proves you wrong and I have shown unbiased figures much of the remainder of the world, including the USA with it’s babble belt. Even if you exclude the rest of the world from US figures your numbers don’t add up facts prove you wrong therefore you are a LIAR.

You do realise that your church teaches that satan is the father of lies, why are you worshipping your father?

No wonder christianity is the fasted declining religion in the world – the worlds leading bishops from the major sects of christianity are seriously concerned about it, they have regular inter denominational meetings in an effort to alleviate the haemorrhaging of believers. The answer is so simple, I can’t believe they have missed it, all they need to do is stop good christian LIARS like you from LYING

You really are as pathetic excuse for a delusional christian
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

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Doctor Who Two wrote:
Ok let's get this straight. Your Science claims there was a Big Bang and it happened (so far) one of two ways
1) when nothing exploded and created everything (this statement is one of Einstein's)
2) when a singularity (black hole) started to expand.
I'll deal with number two sense the first definition it ludicrous.
Well, it's your bogus, cartoonish definition. You admitting you believe and say "ludicrous things?
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Science tells us now, that the universe started when a singularity started to expand. This of course is also ludicrous sense we know many laws of physics this would break.
Funny how these very same scientists who are explaining the BB to you are unaware of all the laws of physics supposedly being broken. I mean, you would think they would have factored that into their explanation, right?

Instead we have you, an ignorant, uneducated Jesus Freak, telling scientists what science is! LOL, right?
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The universe started once the singularity started to expand this would also mean that the laws of phyics also started at that Exact same time.
Yes, it would. What's your point?

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