The Myth of the Big Bang

[Ben_Masada]

ChristineM wrote:

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Why because it’s not contradictory BS like yours?
You are trying to get rid of me just because you want to like more – right?
Simple things like misrepresenting low hundreds with billions?
“ad hominems” you do love that phrase don’t you when you cannot have your own way? I have seem you uses it quite often.
Honey, when people like you stop lying then I will gladly leave it entirely up to you to play with yourself.

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Oh! Does it meant that, as long as I keep lying, you won't leave me? All right, in that case I'll keep lying. I hate to play alone.

Ben

[ChristineM]

Ben_Masada wrote:

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Oh, I see! Now, you sound like my wife. She always wants me to take her word for it, no matter what I think. You also remind me of Christian preachers who expect us to accept their gospels as if we don't have a mind of our own. Exchange of ideas must be the theme of our discussions and not replacement of mine by those of yours.
Ben

Did I say you should take my word for it? NO, you made assumptions just as so many christian funnymentalist do. I said you are unwilling to acknowledge my answers.

I said that I had offered a considerable amount of cosmological knowledge but you completely ignored it. To the extent that you mocked and made fun of it. That is a problem with you own personality rather then the knowledge I offered.

Where is it that I said you should take my word for it? Nowhere. I did of course expect you to look into what I said and make your own mind up based on your research but you are too closed minded for that. You are unable to even recognize that other views to your own exist.

Ben_Masada wrote:

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Oh! Does it meant that, as long as I keep lying, you won't leave me? All right, in that case I'll keep lying. I hate to play alone.
Ben

So you have not answered the questions but you have admitted that you lie. That’s fine.

[Richie T]

"He who has an ear, let him hear":
www.scribd.com/doc/106586592/Eternal ...

[Monkeys Paw]

ChristineM wrote:

<quoted text>Ahh rather like you appear to be

Doctor Who Two
Master
Monkey's Paw

On this thread alone using the same outdated scientific arguments, same grammatical style, same person

You want to sock the donÂ’t throw stones in glass houses

I'm three people? Cool
I know the good Doctors post but Master is one I'm not familiar with.
I got it..... Nice side track. Lets get back on target.

Could have the Big Bang really have happened?

I'll quote someone else here.

http://www.odec.ca/projects/2004/khak4a0/publ...

[-Skeptic-]

Monkeys Paw wrote:

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I'm three people? Cool
I know the good Doctors post but Master is one I'm not familiar with.
I got it..... Nice side track. Lets get back on target.
Could have the Big Bang really have happened?
I'll quote someone else here.
http://www.odec.ca/projects/2004/khak4a0/publ...

Failed Creationist with no intellectual ammunition.

[Ben_Masada]

ChristineM wrote:

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Did I say you should take my word for it? NO, you made assumptions just as so many christian funnymentalist do. I said you are unwilling to acknowledge my answers.
I said that I had offered a considerable amount of cosmological knowledge but you completely ignored it. To the extent that you mocked and made fun of it. That is a problem with you own personality rather then the knowledge I offered.
Where is it that I said you should take my word for it? Nowhere. I did of course expect you to look into what I said and make your own mind up based on your research but you are too closed minded for that. You are unable to even recognize that other views to your own exist.
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So you have not answered the questions but you have admitted that you lie. That’s fine.

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As long as it makes you happy, I can do anything but one: To adopt your views if they do not make sense to me. No offense meant, of course.

Ben

[KJV]

Universe

Uni - one
Verse - spoken

Let there be light!

[ChristineM]

Ben_Masada wrote:

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As long as it makes you happy, I can do anything but one: To adopt your views if they do not make sense to me. No offense meant, of course.
Ben

What would really make me happy is for you to admit you lied rather than making pathetic excuses for it. However I can see that is not going so another pleasing idea would be for you to butt out but there is not really much chance of that happening either.

You don’t like others to have views different from your that thought for you, not for anyone else.

[ChristineM]

KJV wrote:

Universe
Uni - one
Verse - spoken
Let there be light!

Language does not work that way I am afraid but you are welcome you your ignorance

Otherwise we could do silly things like braking in the letters KJV and making it sound like a book (of several books put together by committee) put to gather by committee on the world of a 17the century king.

[ChristineM]

Monkeys Paw wrote:

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I'm three people? Cool
I know the good Doctors post but Master is one I'm not familiar with.
I got it..... Nice side track. Lets get back on target.
Could have the Big Bang really have happened?
I'll quote someone else here.
http://www.odec.ca/projects/2004/khak4a0/publ...

Well you write like 3 people (at least), you show the same sentence structure as 3 people, the same grammatical structure of 3 people, you argue with the same deliberate ignorance as 3 people. That’s not conclusive proof but it is pretty damming evidence.

However the evidence for the expansion of the universe is unquestionable. The big bang theory on the other hand is old hat, very few scientist now believe the big bang idea, they now have the means to look further and are daring to think of before the event. The event itself is now seen as a rapid and accelerating expansion.

You can quote who the hell you want, that will not make any difference to the fact that the universe is expanding (physically measured). The rate of measurable expansion indicates that it was considerably smaller when I started this post.

This indicates that it was fantastically smaller a million years ago

And this indicates that it was even smaller still a billion years ago

The logical conclusion to those (more than one method) measurements is that approximately 13.7 billion years ago the universe was a singularity.

However until recently science prior to 10^-20 (approx) of a second after the event that brought forth this universe is uncertain and prior to 10^-34th is unknown.

From 10^-20 (approx) following the event it is known how the universe progressed to its present state and prior to 10^-34th it is unknown. The 10^-14 of a second between is uncertain in that a train of events is known to have occurred beginning at 10^-34th of a second with the formation of the fundamental physical laws that govern this universe. However scientific and mathematical advances now allow the means to theorize what happened before those points.

Note that each of the times quoted are millions of times faster then the fasted clock tick of the fasted computer humanity can currently build

I’ll quote the people who know and work in the subject of cosmology (not an unattributed godbothering excuse as you supplied) here

http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/

[Langoliers]

Ben_Masada wrote:

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In this case though, I am not using a thread of his to harass him in this forum. He is rather the one who harasses me by using my thread to spew his ad hominems on me. Therefore, he is the one harassing me on topix all day.

Ben

Ben I think you misunderstood him.
He was just letting you know who you were dealing with. An atheist puppet.

[-Skeptic-]

Langoliers wrote:

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Ben I think you misunderstood him.
He was just letting you know who you were dealing with. An atheist puppet.

Failed creationist liar back for another failed attempt at converting intelligent atheists who laughed him out last time.

[Langoliers]

-Skeptic- wrote:

<quoted text>Failed creationist liar back for another failed attempt at converting intelligent atheists who laughed him out last time.

I never left!
You maybe laughing but I never left so again you lie. No surprise a atheist lying.

[ChristineM]

Langoliers wrote:

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I never left!
You maybe laughing but I never left so again you lie. No surprise a atheist lying.

Do we assume then that you were posting with another sock on?

I suppose that’s one way of trying to trick atheists you can claim to your god when you meet him that you were giving it to them twice as hard and so deserve extra “do good in the name of god” points ::><::

[ChristineM]

Langoliers wrote:

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Ben I think you misunderstood him.
He was just letting you know who you were dealing with. An atheist puppet.

How the hell do you know what other people are thinking, is this a power that god gave you? Or is it your basic, everyday christian delusion?

[Very Cynical Person]

ChristineM wrote:

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How the hell do you know what other people are thinking, is this a power that god gave you? Or is it your basic, everyday christian delusion?

My vote is delusion.

[Langoliers]

ChristineM wrote:

<quoted text>Do we assume then that you were posting with another sock on?

I suppose that’s one way of trying to trick atheists you can claim to your god when you meet him that you were giving it to them twice as hard and so deserve extra “do good in the name of god” points ::><::

Assume all you want. It makes no difference if you believe that I'm one person or many. I know my lighting fast wit makes it looks like I am many people.

I don't see how posting under two or more name accomplishes anything.
Why would? What's the advantage?
Sorry I don't get it.

Well enough on that let's get to atheist bashing, now that's fun!!

2.3% what a joke your religion is!

You claim all humans are born atheist.
Ok that means at one time you had 100% of the human population. The current percentage of the world population is at 2.3%.

That means that 97.7% of your congregation has left your faith!!

WTF is wrong with you guys?
97.7%!!!!!!!
Do you realize how many people that is?

Man your not just losing them at that rate there running from you! LMFAO

[Lil Ticked]

Langoliers wrote:

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Assume all you want. It makes no difference if you believe that I'm one person or many. I know my lighting fast wit makes it looks like I am many people.
I don't see how posting under two or more name accomplishes anything.
Why would? What's the advantage?
Sorry I don't get it.
Well enough on that let's get to atheist bashing, now that's fun!!
2.3% what a joke your religion is!
You claim all humans are born atheist.
Ok that means at one time you had 100% of the human population. The current percentage of the world population is at 2.3%.
That means that 97.7% of your congregation has left your faith!!
WTF is wrong with you guys?
97.7%!!!!!!!
Do you realize how many people that is?
Man your not just losing them at that rate there running from you! LMFAO

I just feel bad for the .7% of a person. Hard knock life I guess.

[-Skeptic-]

Langoliers wrote:

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Assume all you want. It makes no difference if you believe that I'm one person or many. I know my lighting fast wit makes it looks like I am many people.
I don't see how posting under two or more name accomplishes anything.
Why would? What's the advantage?
Sorry I don't get it.
Well enough on that let's get to atheist bashing, now that's fun!!
2.3% what a joke your religion is!
You claim all humans are born atheist.
Ok that means at one time you had 100% of the human population. The current percentage of the world population is at 2.3%.
That means that 97.7% of your congregation has left your faith!!
WTF is wrong with you guys?
97.7%!!!!!!!
Do you realize how many people that is?
Man your not just losing them at that rate there running from you! LMFAO

Failed Creationist joke who lies about science.

[-Skeptic-]

Langoliers wrote:

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I never left!
You maybe laughing but I never left so again you lie. No surprise a atheist lying.

Failed Creationist with no evidence of god, continuing to lie to intelligent people as though they don't remember a pathetic religious troll like yourself.