Why is bigotry towards atheists

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Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1 Feb 8, 2013
In today's society as a rule barring some exceptions we are growing more tolerant of others. We see great strides being made in the treatment of women, racial minorities, cultures, gay rights, even how we treat people with disabilities.

If we see a person come out saying vile bigoted statements about a certain race or gender of people as a whole they will be looked down on and ostracized by semi-reasonable people for their intolerance.

Yet when it comes to atheists this doesn't seem to apply. People feel free to viciously attack an atheist with vile bigoted intolerant statements even threatening them and as a whole society doesn't seem to come down on this. Many of the same people who are intolerant of atheists wouldn't dream of saying such things to a person for being a certain race or gender. Worse after repeatedly attacking the atheist with insults and bigoted remarks the believer gasps in shock when the atheist has enough and retaliates! Seriously what else do they expect?

Let's imagine if you saw someone approach a racial minority and ask them, so you are ( insert random racial minority here ) yes? Well since you aren't the majority how could you possibly have morals? How could you know killing is wrong?

If this were done the person would look like a complete inbreed stewing in their bigotry. Yet this is acceptable when asked of an atheist? I know some very open minded accepting people otherwise, who will do just that. They will march for equal rights but turn red faced bigot when presented with an atheist.

Perhaps one day believers can at least accept that not everyone believes as they do yet deserve to be treated equally. If not well, don't get upset when you reap what your bigotry has sown.
Siro

Sydney, Australia

#3 Feb 10, 2013
blah blah blah you PC whiner

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#4 Feb 10, 2013
Siro wrote:
blah blah blah you PC whiner
Sum's up most theist's response to facts.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#5 Feb 10, 2013
No. I use MacBook Pros.
Siro wrote:
blah blah blah you PC whiner
Siro

Sydney, Australia

#6 Feb 10, 2013
Thinking wrote:
No. I use MacBook Pros.
<quoted text>
Wow what a hipster you are.....

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#7 Feb 10, 2013
Cheers! I am a Mac man myself.
Thinking wrote:
No. I use MacBook Pros.
<quoted text>

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#8 Feb 11, 2013
I think we can't stress too often that the word "theist" encompasses many dogmas and sects.

The theist are preferring the worshippers of insane god myths whom they are loathe to even qualify as human beings over who the newborn human is.,

Atheist is not a word they even understand, and somehow they equate it to a rejection of their god, and their god only, while it is actually not rejection of any of the gods, it is simply the absence of theism.

Atheist says that we are not theist, that we are not encumbered by dogma, nor creed. While it says who we are not, it doesn't say who we are. It just doesn't say enough.

We need another word to identify ourselves. A word that means not only non-believer, but additionally means the rejection of any god claims and dogmas.

Atheist doesn't cover it, Brights doesn't cover it, non-believer, sceptic, rationalist, none of these say what needs to be said. We are humans who reject all god claims and since this is ours to define not thiers, we need to come up with that defining term.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#9 Feb 11, 2013
Took a long time for my wife to convert me, but once you Mac, you don't go back.

I particularly like the two finger scroll which allows me to zoom through cult and paste whilst giving it the two fingers so beloved of my culture.
Givemeliberty wrote:
Cheers! I am a Mac man myself.
<quoted text>
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#10 Feb 11, 2013
"Why is bigotry towards atheists"... my guess is because people dont like having their bubble burst, and prefer to cling to comforting myths, even though they know they are being stupid and lying to themselves.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#11 Feb 11, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Took a long time for my wife to convert me, but once you Mac, you don't go back.
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I think we'll get a Mac this year. Seem a bit pricey, but guess you get what you pay for.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#12 Feb 11, 2013
If you're talking laptops, yes Macbooks are pricey. But they are very well made and Mac OS is pretty resilient.

I treat laptops harshly. I got through a Dell in 3 years, and a Vaio in 15 months. The Dell lasted because it was so easy to rebuild. My MacBook Pro is 4 years old now, and I'll wait for the next hand me down rather than buy a new one. I've just replaced the battery, and that's it.

Sadly I've got one Windows application I still need, it's Radio Downloader which makes .mp3s of BBC radio programmes that are not podcasted. So I still need to boot into Windows from time to time. I didn't fancy running Fusion or Parallels.
Adam wrote:
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I think we'll get a Mac this year. Seem a bit pricey, but guess you get what you pay for.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#13 Feb 11, 2013
People will discriminate towards atheists with bald faced rare bigotry and not think a second thought. And these are often people who would bristle at someone doing this to another race or group. It's interesting in a way and shows society still has a long way to go.

Yet the same people will naturally throw a temper tantrum demanding to know why atheists are so ruse, if the atheists they are discriminating against won't just sit there and take it.

Lmfao!

Oh and macs are great! Yes they cost a bit more but hey my cousin still runs his business from an old iMac 4!
Adam wrote:
"Why is bigotry towards atheists"... my guess is because people dont like having their bubble burst, and prefer to cling to comforting myths, even though they know they are being stupid and lying to themselves.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#14 Feb 11, 2013
We gave a G4 away a few years ago and its still serving its new owner well. Credit where credit is due. Apple make their competition smarten up their act.
Givemeliberty wrote:
People will discriminate towards atheists with bald faced rare bigotry and not think a second thought. And these are often people who would bristle at someone doing this to another race or group. It's interesting in a way and shows society still has a long way to go.
Yet the same people will naturally throw a temper tantrum demanding to know why atheists are so ruse, if the atheists they are discriminating against won't just sit there and take it.
Lmfao!
Oh and macs are great! Yes they cost a bit more but hey my cousin still runs his business from an old iMac 4!
<quoted text>

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#15 Feb 11, 2013
I assert that essentially all deity beliefs, and the methods of worshiping those deities, IE: Religion, creates a type or variation of racism. You might call it bigotry. I'll call it a "divine racism", however, in which all are equal and equally loved by the deity, unless, you don't worship whatever particular deity happens to be being worshiped. Theists even use terminology that denotes a seeming type of "race". The "chosen people", "gods children", "this is my gods country and we are his people" etc.

If you don't worship that deity, then you are suddenly and for no other reason less than those who do.

A faith based belief that is no more substantial than waking up in the morning, looking at the sky and for whatever reason, you decide it will certainly and beyond a doubt rain that day. But not on you.

This holy *club*, and I want to emphasize the usage of *club* on purpose, is then used to bludgeon those who don't worship the specific deity and even further, within the various flavors or denominations of the specific religion, even the followers of the deity will discriminate against, castigate, and openly despise adherents of other denominations devoted to the same deity.

Just look at the comments you see and hear from the members of Catholicism, Protestantism, Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses, et al. Each against the another. Each declaring a divine superiority and authority. Each boldly claiming that all others who are not a member of their holy club are most certainly going to die or suffer retribution in some way. Because they and only they are members of the true method of worship that the deity prefers.

Each of those denominations being based upon the exact same book that the roughly 30,000 other denominations within Christianity also use. I've used Christianity to example this, but you can find the same types of, "divine racism", within Islam, Judaism, Hinduism and numerous other deity beliefs, methods of worship and practices.

Within religion, the color of your skin matters very little, but the thoughts within the mind becomes the deciding factor for acceptance or rejection by the religious racists. A racism that encompasses the entire world. There is no tribe, border, or boundary involved here.

Woe to the heathen. That person who doesn't worship or have a deity belief at all. I've found that, suddenly, if you happen to fall into that category, those of different deity beliefs will at times find a common bond among themselves. Each of them suddenly find a unifying element based on nothing more than, at the least, they do worship a deity.

Any deity. It doesn't matter if the deities are different they each worship,*AT LEAST THEY BELIEVE IN ONE*. The non believer is at the bottom rung of divine racism. The holy clubs of the god(S) smite all heathens equally, and I imagine that each deity will take its turn in punishing the heathen in various ways, with various punishments. In order of popularity~/. Of course~~/.

The adherents of the particular deity all are certain the heathen is the most reviled creature, all based upon the beliefs of the theist. A belief that is held and supported solely within the mind, that their deity swings the biggest club.

If the deity doesn't swing that club, and it never does, the believer will because the deity ~obviously~ has left it up to the believer to declare the heathen less than all others since the deity is always preoccupied with some other task and relies upon the follower to decide what it means and intends.

Additionally, if the follower does something wrong or not within the deity plan, no worries, all is forgiven by a ritual or some method that, again, the follower believes absolves them of wrong doing.

All they need do is confess to the *busy* deity that they were either wrong or doing the deities job in its stead and it is forgiven.

They're still in the club, and they'll use it again.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#16 Feb 11, 2013
Very well said!
scaritual wrote:
I assert that essentially all deity beliefs, and the methods of worshiping those deities, IE: Religion, creates a type or variation of racism. You might call it bigotry. I'll call it a "divine racism", however, in which all are equal and equally loved by the deity, unless, you don't worship whatever particular deity happens to be being worshiped. Theists even use terminology that denotes a seeming type of "race". The "chosen people", "gods children", "this is my gods country and we are his people" etc.
If you don't worship that deity, then you are suddenly and for no other reason less than those who do.
A faith based belief that is no more substantial than waking up in the morning, looking at the sky and for whatever reason, you decide it will certainly and beyond a doubt rain that day. But not on you.
This holy *club*, and I want to emphasize the usage of *club* on purpose, is then used to bludgeon those who don't worship the specific deity and even further, within the various flavors or denominations of the specific religion, even the followers of the deity will discriminate against, castigate, and openly despise adherents of other denominations devoted to the same deity.
Just look at the comments you see and hear from the members of Catholicism, Protestantism, Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses, et al. Each against the another. Each declaring a divine superiority and authority. Each boldly claiming that all others who are not a member of their holy club are most certainly going to die or suffer retribution in some way. Because they and only they are members of the true method of worship that the deity prefers.
Each of those denominations being based upon the exact same book that the roughly 30,000 other denominations within Christianity also use. I've used Christianity to example this, but you can find the same types of, "divine racism", within Islam, Judaism, Hinduism and numerous other deity beliefs, methods of worship and practices.
Within religion, the color of your skin matters very little, but the thoughts within the mind becomes the deciding factor for acceptance or rejection by the religious racists. A racism that encompasses the entire world. There is no tribe, border, or boundary involved here.
Woe to the heathen. That person who doesn't worship or have a deity belief at all. I've found that, suddenly, if you happen to fall into that category, those of different deity beliefs will at times find a common bond among themselves. Each of them suddenly find a unifying element based on nothing more than, at the least, they do worship a deity.
Any deity. It doesn't matter if the deities are different they each worship,*AT LEAST THEY BELIEVE IN ONE*. The non believer is at the bottom rung of divine racism. The holy clubs of the god(S) smite all heathens equally, and I imagine that each deity will take its turn in punishing the heathen in various ways, with various punishments. In order of popularity~/. Of course~~/.
The adherents of the particular deity all are certain the heathen is the most reviled creature, all based upon the beliefs of the theist. A belief that is held and supported solely within the mind, that their deity swings the biggest club.
If the deity doesn't swing that club, and it never does, the believer will because the deity ~obviously~ has left it up to the believer to declare the heathen less than all others since the deity is always preoccupied with some other task and relies upon the follower to decide what it means and intends.
Additionally, if the follower does something wrong or not within the deity plan, no worries, all is forgiven by a ritual or some method that, again, the follower believes absolves them of wrong doing.
All they need do is confess to the *busy* deity that they were either wrong or doing the deities job in its stead and it is forgiven.
They're still in the club, and they'll use it again.
Siro

Sydney, Australia

#17 Feb 11, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Very well said!
<quoted text>
Whatever.....now put on your Che Guevara t-shirt and red beret and sing 'the internationale'
Assuming you havent done it since you first were woken from your royal slumber in the local dumpster.
Hows the library internet speed BTW?
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#18 Feb 11, 2013
I own this Che t-shirt.

www.redmolotov.com/images/designs/thatcherrev...
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever.....now put on your Che Guevara t-shirt and red beret and sing 'the internationale'
Assuming you havent done it since you first were woken from your royal slumber in the local dumpster.
Hows the library internet speed BTW?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#19 Feb 11, 2013
Lol :)
Thinking wrote:
I own this Che t-shirt.
www.redmolotov.com/images/designs/thatcherrev...
<quoted text>

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#20 Feb 12, 2013
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever.....now put on your Che Guevara t-shirt and red beret and sing 'the internationale'
Assuming you havent done it since you first were woken from your royal slumber in the local dumpster.
Hows the library internet speed BTW?
It looks like you are really really bitter about having absolutely no proof of god.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#21 Feb 12, 2013
And the fact that he has a sub 80 IQ.
-Skeptic- wrote:
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It looks like you are really really bitter about having absolutely no proof of god.

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