6 Common Myths About Atheism

Nov 16, 2012 Full story: Truthdig 294

If you want to piss off an atheist, tell him or her that atheism is a religion just like any other.

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#84 Dec 2, 2012
Occupy this wrote:
Yeah, I thought so... Now you dumb atheists have something to think about.
Occupy this

San Francisco, CA

#85 Dec 2, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =qY9boztp7FYXX
Obviously you're from the shallow end of the gene pool. Your limited intellect fails to comprehend the impact of choosing a belief in something vs. a belief in nothing at all. You ASSume that I'm advocating Christianity, when in fact, I'm merely demonstrating that it is atheism that is the true destructive force in society.

You are your own worst enemy. America is coming apart at the seams. Atheist-liberalism (not Christianity) is the blame.

Many people must suffer before they can learn - and suffer they will. America is done.

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Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#86 Dec 2, 2012
Occupy this wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously you're from the shallow end of the gene pool. Your limited intellect fails to comprehend the impact of choosing a belief in something vs. a belief in nothing at all. You ASSume that I'm advocating Christianity, when in fact, I'm merely demonstrating that it is atheism that is the true destructive force in society.
You are your own worst enemy. America is coming apart at the seams. Atheist-liberalism (not Christianity) is the blame.
Many people must suffer before they can learn - and suffer they will. America is done.
I honestly do not care what you are advocating. Neither Atheism nor Religion has anything to do with the state of America today. It is the shallow apathetic masses who care more about what Justin Bieber had for breakfast than what the power hungry elites in Washington are doing to keep the population under "control". Liberals, Conservatives, Left, Right, Republican, or Democrat, it does not matter. It is all a shell game.

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#87 Dec 3, 2012
From the onset of the Christian europeans coming to the Americas. There is an estimate of 50 to 60 million indians were killed by these Christians. With about another 100 to 120 million killed by smallpox brought to the Americas with the Christians.
Christopher Columbus said of the Indians "they are a people who were so friendly that all one would have to do is ask and they would give anything they have to the one asking." Columbus was a Catholic. Later Columbus said in Christ name we will kill and enslave and do whatever is necessary to take this land.
In North America the same was done all in the name of Christ. It was said that the Indians were just human animals and did not have a soul. So killing them was done in Christs name to cleans the lands of these vermin.
The indians had their own religion, unknown to the Christians. They believed that God created everything and that everyone was their Brother and a part of themselves. An idea that sounds savage? Not at all!
Does the remainder of the American indian complain? No
They still live lives of great respect for all God created. Yes they have problems alcohol abuse abounds in the Indian community.
But these people who still believe that everyone is their brother and a part of them live on, some now Christians, but a different kind of Christian. A Christian who sees his brothers as sacred and a part of God.
Lil Ticked wrote:
Hey! Now you people got me doing it. MYTHSssss!
Atheists want religion removed from schools so they can push the homosexual agenda upon our children. That is exactly why there are more and more stories in the news about teacher molesting children.

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#88 Dec 3, 2012
swerty wrote:
From the onset of the Christian europeans coming to the Americas. There is an estimate of 50 to 60 million indians were killed by these Christians. With about another 100 to 120 million killed by smallpox brought to the Americas with the Christians.
Christopher Columbus said of the Indians "they are a people who were so friendly that all one would have to do is ask and they would give anything they have to the one asking." Columbus was a Catholic. Later Columbus said in Christ name we will kill and enslave and do whatever is necessary to take this land.
In North America the same was done all in the name of Christ. It was said that the Indians were just human animals and did not have a soul. So killing them was done in Christs name to cleans the lands of these vermin.
The indians had their own religion, unknown to the Christians. They believed that God created everything and that everyone was their Brother and a part of themselves. An idea that sounds savage? Not at all!
Does the remainder of the American indian complain? No
They still live lives of great respect for all God created. Yes they have problems alcohol abuse abounds in the Indian community.
But these people who still believe that everyone is their brother and a part of them live on, some now Christians, but a different kind of Christian. A Christian who sees his brothers as sacred and a part of God.
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Why do you keep posting christian crap? Also, your post is not entirely true. The Native Americans did not all hold the same beliefs. Each tribe was different.
http://are.as.wvu.edu/ruvolo.htm
That doesn't cover them all but it is a start.

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#89 Dec 3, 2012
Christianity borrowed its central myths and ceremonies from other ancient religions. The ancient world was rife with tales of virgin births, miracle-working saviors, tripartite gods, gods taking human form, gods arising from the dead, heavens and hells, and days of judgment. In addition to the myths, many of the ceremonies of ancient religions also match those of that syncretic latecomer, Christianity. To cite but one example (there are many others), consider Mithraism, a Persian religion predating Christianity by centuries. Mithra, the savior of the Mithraic religion and a god who took human form, was born of a virgin; he belonged to the holy trinity and was a link between heaven and Earth; and he ascended into heaven after his death. His followers believed in heaven and hell, looked forward to a day of judgment, and referred to Mithra as "the Light of the World." They also practiced baptism (for purification purposes) and ritual cannibalism—the eating of bread and the drinking of wine to symbolize the eating and drinking of the god’s body and blood. Given all this, Mithra’s birthday should come as no surprise: December 25th; this event was, of course, celebrated by Mithra’s followers at midnight.
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you keep posting christian crap? Also, your post is not entirely true. The Native Americans did not all hold the same beliefs. Each tribe was different.
http://are.as.wvu.edu/ruvolo.htm
That doesn't cover them all but it is a start.

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Since: May 08

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#90 Dec 3, 2012
swerty wrote:
Christianity borrowed its central myths and ceremonies from other ancient religions. The ancient world was rife with tales of virgin births, miracle-working saviors, tripartite gods, gods taking human form, gods arising from the dead, heavens and hells, and days of judgment. In addition to the myths, many of the ceremonies of ancient religions also match those of that syncretic latecomer, Christianity. To cite but one example (there are many others), consider Mithraism, a Persian religion predating Christianity by centuries. Mithra, the savior of the Mithraic religion and a god who took human form, was born of a virgin; he belonged to the holy trinity and was a link between heaven and Earth; and he ascended into heaven after his death. His followers believed in heaven and hell, looked forward to a day of judgment, and referred to Mithra as "the Light of the World." They also practiced baptism (for purification purposes) and ritual cannibalism—the eating of bread and the drinking of wine to symbolize the eating and drinking of the god’s body and blood. Given all this, Mithra’s birthday should come as no surprise: December 25th; this event was, of course, celebrated by Mithra’s followers at midnight.
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A History of the Blue Movie is a 1970 Graffiti Productions/Sherpix, Inc. documentary pornographic movie.

Directed by Alex de Renzy, this compilation of early shorts combines blue movies, dating from 1915 to 1970, with an uncredited narrator.

One of the first attempts to compile some of the oldest available American porn movies for a theater audience, A History of the Blue Movie includes scenes from Grass Sandwich (1915), which is one of the earliest known blue movies in existence, along with several classics in their entirety, such as the controversial The Nun Story, Ever Ready, The Janitor, Peeping Tom, and Smart Alec (1951) with legendary stripper Candy Barr.

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#91 Dec 3, 2012
Christianity produces sexual misery. In addition to the misery produced by authoritarian Christian intrusions into the sex lives of non-Christians, Christianity produces great misery among its own adherents through its insistence that sex (except the very narrow variety it sanctions) is evil, against God’s law. Christianity proscribes sex between unmarried people, sex outside of marriage, homosexual relations, bestiality,(3) and even “impure” sexual thoughts. Indulging in such things can and will, in the conventional Christian view, lead straight to hell.

Given that human beings are by nature highly sexual beings, and that their urges very often do not fit into the only officially sanctioned Christian form of sexuality (monogamous, heterosexual marriage), it’s inevitable that those who attempt to follow Christian “morality” in this area are often miserable, as their strongest urges run smack dab into the wall of religious belief. This is inevitable in Christian adolescents and unmarried young people in that the only “pure” way for them to behave is celibately—in the strict Christian view, even masturbation is prohibited. Phillip Roth has well described the dilemma of the religiously/sexually repressed young in Portnoy’s Complaint as “being torn between desires that are repugnant to my conscience and a conscience repugnant to my desires.” Thus the years of adolescence and young adulthood for many Christians are poisoned by “sinful” urges, unfulfilled longings, and intense guilt (after the urges become too much to bear and are acted upon).
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>
A History of the Blue Movie is a 1970 Graffiti Productions/Sherpix, Inc. documentary pornographic movie.
Directed by Alex de Renzy, this compilation of early shorts combines blue movies, dating from 1915 to 1970, with an uncredited narrator.
One of the first attempts to compile some of the oldest available American porn movies for a theater audience, A History of the Blue Movie includes scenes from Grass Sandwich (1915), which is one of the earliest known blue movies in existence, along with several classics in their entirety, such as the controversial The Nun Story, Ever Ready, The Janitor, Peeping Tom, and Smart Alec (1951) with legendary stripper Candy Barr.
Thinking

Saffron Walden, UK

#92 Dec 3, 2012
Buying sh!t you won't pay for is more to blame than belief or non belief in sky pixies.
Occupy this wrote:
<quoted text>
Obviously you're from the shallow end of the gene pool. Your limited intellect fails to comprehend the impact of choosing a belief in something vs. a belief in nothing at all. You ASSume that I'm advocating Christianity, when in fact, I'm merely demonstrating that it is atheism that is the true destructive force in society.
You are your own worst enemy. America is coming apart at the seams. Atheist-liberalism (not Christianity) is the blame.
Many people must suffer before they can learn - and suffer they will. America is done.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#93 Dec 3, 2012
swerty wrote:
Christianity produces sexual misery. In addition to the misery produced by authoritarian Christian intrusions into the sex lives of non-Christians, Christianity produces great misery among its own adherents through its insistence that sex (except the very narrow variety it sanctions) is evil, against God’s law. Christianity proscribes sex between unmarried people, sex outside of marriage, homosexual relations, bestiality,(3) and even “impure” sexual thoughts. Indulging in such things can and will, in the conventional Christian view, lead straight to hell.
Given that human beings are by nature highly sexual beings, and that their urges very often do not fit into the only officially sanctioned Christian form of sexuality (monogamous, heterosexual marriage), it’s inevitable that those who attempt to follow Christian “morality” in this area are often miserable, as their strongest urges run smack dab into the wall of religious belief. This is inevitable in Christian adolescents and unmarried young people in that the only “pure” way for them to behave is celibately—in the strict Christian view, even masturbation is prohibited. Phillip Roth has well described the dilemma of the religiously/sexually repressed young in Portnoy’s Complaint as “being torn between desires that are repugnant to my conscience and a conscience repugnant to my desires.” Thus the years of adolescence and young adulthood for many Christians are poisoned by “sinful” urges, unfulfilled longings, and intense guilt (after the urges become too much to bear and are acted upon).
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That is better. At least that has something to do with what I posted. Even though that is not entirely accurate either. Mormons are considered christian.

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Since: May 08

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#94 Dec 3, 2012
swerty wrote:
From the onset of the Christian europeans coming to the Americas. There is an estimate of 50 to 60 million indians were killed by these Christians. With about another 100 to 120 million killed by smallpox brought to the Americas with the Christians.
Christopher Columbus said of the Indians "they are a people who were so friendly that all one would have to do is ask and they would give anything they have to the one asking." Columbus was a Catholic. Later Columbus said in Christ name we will kill and enslave and do whatever is necessary to take this land.
In North America the same was done all in the name of Christ. It was said that the Indians were just human animals and did not have a soul. So killing them was done in Christs name to cleans the lands of these vermin.
The indians had their own religion, unknown to the Christians. They believed that God created everything and that everyone was their Brother and a part of themselves. An idea that sounds savage? Not at all!
Does the remainder of the American indian complain? No
They still live lives of great respect for all God created. Yes they have problems alcohol abuse abounds in the Indian community.
But these people who still believe that everyone is their brother and a part of them live on, some now Christians, but a different kind of Christian. A Christian who sees his brothers as sacred and a part of God.
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

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#95 Dec 3, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>I honestly do not care what you are advocating. Neither Atheism nor Religion has anything to do with the state of America today. It is the shallow apathetic masses who care more about what Justin Bieber had for breakfast than what the power hungry elites in Washington are doing to keep the population under "control". Liberals, Conservatives, Left, Right, Republican, or Democrat, it does not matter. It is all a shell game.
Would I hear the ocean if I placed my ear against your navel?

“It's all about the struggle”

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#96 Dec 3, 2012
swerty wrote:
Christianity produces sexual misery. In addition to the misery produced by authoritarian Christian intrusions into the sex lives of non-Christians, Christianity produces great misery among its own adherents through its insistence that sex (except the very narrow variety it sanctions) is evil, against God’s law. Christianity proscribes sex between unmarried people, sex outside of marriage, homosexual relations, bestiality,(3) and even “impure” sexual thoughts. Indulging in such things can and will, in the conventional Christian view, lead straight to hell.
Given that human beings are by nature highly sexual beings, and that their urges very often do not fit into the only officially sanctioned Christian form of sexuality (monogamous, heterosexual marriage), it’s inevitable that those who attempt to follow Christian “morality” in this area are often miserable, as their strongest urges run smack dab into the wall of religious belief. This is inevitable in Christian adolescents and unmarried young people in that the only “pure” way for them to behave is celibately—in the strict Christian view, even masturbation is prohibited. Phillip Roth has well described the dilemma of the religiously/sexually repressed young in Portnoy’s Complaint as “being torn between desires that are repugnant to my conscience and a conscience repugnant to my desires.” Thus the years of adolescence and young adulthood for many Christians are poisoned by “sinful” urges, unfulfilled longings, and intense guilt (after the urges become too much to bear and are acted upon).
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Atheist doctrine also insinuates that there is shame in sexual behaviour.
Crooked liberal media

Concord, CA

#97 Dec 3, 2012
Occupy this wrote:
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Thanks.
Very good posts of your own as well.
This rediculous article reads as if it were written by a college freshman - fresh out of first quarter philosophy class...Having just had his mushy soft brains sculpted by his atheist professor. But supposedly, this guy is an adult? LOL.
Atheists do employ faith in order to embrace their dark world view. And the inherant message is in fact, that life is meaningless. They get very upset and swear up and down, that their lives are meaningful. But when pressed to explain how, they become indignant and childishly insulting...which is why this article reads like a child wrote it.
Atheists refuse to see the obvious impact of their faith. Life is meaningless, morals are nothing but social constructs created by human groups...so, ultimately, there is no judgement for your actions.
The atheist golden rule? "Only do unto others, as long as you know that you can get away with it." Not exactly the kind of message that builds great societies and super powers. The atheist will swear again and again, that even though they believe these things, their "human spirit" keeps them in line...somehow.
Atheists are a joke. Atheist-liberalism is a social cancer.
Excellent insight.
Crooked liberal media

Concord, CA

#98 Dec 3, 2012
Occupy this wrote:
These atheist clowns believe in mankind's "natural morality." Have they looked around? Not only has atheist america demonstrated zero morality lately, but nature itself is not moral - it is opportunistic and cruel.
Atheists beleive that they are just flatulent, hairless monkeys.
http://www.google.com/imgres...
Have these farting monkey atheists seen what monkeys do to each other if and when the opportunity presents itself?
Brilliant analysis.
Crooked liberal media

Concord, CA

#99 Dec 3, 2012
Atheists worship humanity...not humans but what they consider the human spirit.

Well we all know how flawed the human spirit is. There are no more effectively evil mass killers than atheists. History proves this fact. It truly is an indictment of atheist liberalism.
Thinking

Saffron Walden, UK

#100 Dec 3, 2012
BS
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Atheist doctrine also insinuates that there is shame in sexual behaviour.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#101 Dec 3, 2012
The atheist doctrine? Do list all the atheist doctrines my sub 80 IQ reject.

I see you are working damn hard to keep your ignorant c@cks@cker title in place. Just when we thought you couldn't get any dumber.
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Atheist doctrine also insinuates that there is shame in sexual behaviour.

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Atlanta, Georgia

#102 Dec 3, 2012
Humanism is a progressive philosophy of life that, without supernaturalism, affirms our ability and responsibility to lead ethical lives of personal fulfillment that aspire to the greater good of humanity.

The lifestance of Humanism—guided by reason, inspired by compassion, and informed by experience—encourages us to live life well and fully. It evolved through the ages and continues to develop through the efforts of thoughtful people who recognize that values and ideals, however carefully wrought, are subject to change as our knowledge and understandings advance.

This document is part of an ongoing effort to manifest in clear and positive terms the conceptual boundaries of Humanism, not what we must believe but a consensus of what we do believe. It is in this sense that we affirm the following:

Knowledge of the world is derived by observation, experimentation, and rational analysis. Humanists find that science is the best method for determining this knowledge as well as for solving problems and developing beneficial technologies. We also recognize the value of new departures in thought, the arts, and inner experience—each subject to analysis by critical intelligence.

Humans are an integral part of nature, the result of unguided evolutionary change. Humanists recognize nature as self-existing. We accept our life as all and enough, distinguishing things as they are from things as we might wish or imagine them to be. We welcome the challenges of the future, and are drawn to and undaunted by the yet to be known.

Ethical values are derived from human need and interest as tested by experience. Humanists ground values in human welfare shaped by human circumstances, interests, and concerns and extended to the global ecosystem and beyond. We are committed to treating each person as having inherent worth and dignity, and to making informed choices in a context of freedom consonant with responsibility.

Life's fulfillment emerges from individual participation in the service of humane ideals. We aim for our fullest possible development and animate our lives with a deep sense of purpose, finding wonder and awe in the joys and beauties of human existence, its challenges and tragedies, and even in the inevitability and finality of death. Humanists rely on the rich heritage of human culture and the lifestance of Humanism to provide comfort in times of want and encouragement in times of plenty.

Humans are social by nature and find meaning in relationships. Humanists long for and strive toward a world of mutual care and concern, free of cruelty and its consequences, where differences are resolved cooperatively without resorting to violence. The joining of individuality with interdependence enriches our lives, encourages us to enrich the lives of others, and inspires hope of attaining peace, justice, and opportunity for all.

Working to benefit society maximizes individual happiness. Progressive cultures have worked to free humanity from the brutalities of mere survival and to reduce suffering, improve society, and develop global community. We seek to minimize the inequities of circumstance and ability, and we support a just distribution of nature's resources and the fruits of human effort so that as many as possible can enjoy a good life.

Humanists are concerned for the well being of all, are committed to diversity, and respect those of differing yet humane views. We work to uphold the equal enjoyment of human rights and civil liberties in an open, secular society and maintain it is a civic duty to participate in the democratic process and a planetary duty to protect nature's integrity, diversity, and beauty in a secure, sustainable manner.

Thus engaged in the flow of life, we aspire to this vision with the informed conviction that humanity has the ability to progress toward its highest ideals. The responsibility for our lives and the kind of world in which we live is ours and ours alone.

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Atlanta, Georgia

#103 Dec 3, 2012
An Atheist loves his fellow man instead of god. An Atheist believes that heaven is something for which we should work now; here on earth for all men together to enjoy.

An Atheist believes that he can get no help through prayer but that he must find in himself the inner conviction, and strength to meet life, to grapple with it, to subdue it and enjoy it.

An Atheist believes that only in a knowledge of himself and a knowledge of his fellow man can he find the understanding that will help to a life of fulfillment.

He seeks to know himself and his fellow man rather than to know a god. An Atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church. An Atheist believes that a deed must be done instead of a prayer said. An Atheist strives for involvement in life and not escape into death. He wants disease conquered, poverty vanquished, war eliminated. He wants man to understand and love man.

He wants an ethical way of life. He believes that we cannot rely on a god or channel action into prayer nor hope for an end of troubles in a hereafter.

He believes that we are our brother's keepers; and are keepers of our own lives; that we are responsible persons and the job is here and the time is now.

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