Evangelical Atheism: Good or Bad?

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I am an atheist who is a former evangelical Christian, and that evangelical impulse has never really left me.

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“you must not give faith”

Since: Jul 12

Nottingham, UK

#1 Feb 7, 2014
"Evangelical Atheism: Good or Bad?" Wrong question, the better question would be "under what circumstances is it good to be evangelical?"

After all it isn't good to be very vocal when you are the majority as then evangelicalism is called propaganda, how ever if you are the minority who gets beaten up belittled and bullied evangelicalism is necessary.

This doesn't just apply to atheism, it applies to everything thus it is much more interesting than the original question.

“Tell it as it is.”

Since: Jun 12

Australia

#2 Feb 8, 2014
Anything which causes people to question and examine fundamental issues has to be "good" in the long term.
If something is built on fact and logic it will stand. If not, then it doesn't deserve to.
NightSerf

Knoxville, TN

#3 Feb 9, 2014
For me, one of the benefits of atheism is that I feel no obligation, much less any pressure, to "spread the word." While it is gratifying to see that every year, a larger proportion of American adults has come to the conclusion that no deities exist, I don't think that I could hasten the process even if I wanted to.

I agree with the old Motown hit:

You've go to think
for yourself
for yourself and nobody else...
EdSed

Wishaw, UK

#4 Feb 10, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
For me, one of the benefits of atheism is that I feel no obligation, much less any pressure, to "spread the word." While it is gratifying to see that every year, a larger proportion of American adults has come to the conclusion that no deities exist, I don't think that I could hasten the process even if I wanted to.
I agree with the old Motown hit:
You've go to think
for yourself
for yourself and nobody else...
I've always paid attention to your posts and found them amongst the most valuable, but your latest contributions might imply that anyone who criticises religion or atheism is 'guilty' of being evangelical, or something other than constructive?(Or so it seems to me).

Everyone offers different points of view. Most of us just respond to what we find on the forums and threads. One of my motives is to point out what is wrong with superstition and I regard religion as the last bastion of superstition. I think religion/atheism teaches humanity no end of a lesson - that we can all get caught-up in divisive, unfounded nonsense.

I agree with the old Motown hit too, but I'm sure you'll agree that doesn't preclude agreement with John Lennon's 'Imagine'.
NightSerf

Knoxville, TN

#5 Feb 11, 2014
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>I've always paid attention to your posts and found them amongst the most valuable, but your latest contributions might imply that anyone who criticises religion or atheism is 'guilty' of being evangelical, or something other than constructive?(Or so it seems to me).
Everyone offers different points of view. Most of us just respond to what we find on the forums and threads. One of my motives is to point out what is wrong with superstition and I regard religion as the last bastion of superstition. I think religion/atheism teaches humanity no end of a lesson - that we can all get caught-up in divisive, unfounded nonsense.
I agree with the old Motown hit too, but I'm sure you'll agree that doesn't preclude agreement with John Lennon's 'Imagine'.
There's nothing wrong with that in its place--here, for instance, in letters columns, or other forums where ideas are discussed. Evangelism goes one step further, i.e., invading social settings where most people who are looking for friendship, not debate, and by invading people's privacy. Evangelism is the skunk at the picnic.

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#6 Feb 12, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
For me, one of the benefits of atheism is that I feel no obligation, much less any pressure, to "spread the word." While it is gratifying to see that every year, a larger proportion of American adults has come to the conclusion that no deities exist, I don't think that I could hasten the process even if I wanted to.
I agree with the old Motown hit:
You've go to think
for yourself
for yourself and nobody else...
Little known truth about atheism: there is no word, no message, to spread.
EdSed

Wishaw, UK

#7 Feb 13, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>
There's nothing wrong with that in its place--here, for instance, in letters columns, or other forums where ideas are discussed. Evangelism goes one step further, i.e., invading social settings where most people who are looking for friendship, not debate, and by invading people's privacy. Evangelism is the skunk at the picnic.
Thanks for clarifying that for me. Nice to read your comments again.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#8 Mar 6, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Little known truth about atheism: there is no word, no message, to spread.
...well apart from the delusions of certain aspects of religion
Old Pom wrote:
Anything which causes people to question and examine fundamental issues has to be "good" in the long term.
If something is built on fact and logic it will stand. If not, then it doesn't deserve to.
...yep questioning is good.
your logic presupposes that to base 'correct' on logical facts is in itself correct

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#9 Mar 11, 2014
Velvet MJK wrote:
<quoted text>
...well apart from the delusions of certain aspects of religion
<quoted text>
...yep questioning is good.
your logic presupposes that to base 'correct' on logical facts is in itself correct
Facts are neither logical nor illogical--they simply are. They are one of the materials from which logic is constructed.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#10 Mar 11, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>
Facts are neither logical nor illogical--they simply are. They are one of the materials from which logic is constructed.
yep, I didn't need both logical and facts ...english overkill.

Think I was trying to say something along the lines of there being a presupposition that the reality/truth/theory is based on logic rather than illogical randomness

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#11 Mar 11, 2014
Velvet MJK wrote:
<quoted text>
yep, I didn't need both logical and facts ...english overkill.
Think I was trying to say something along the lines of there being a presupposition that the reality/truth/theory is based on logic rather than illogical randomness
Randomness is also neither logical nor illogical. When it exists, it is also a fact, but perceived randomness is often failure to discern a pattern or patterns that do,in fact exist. But I do see what you mean, and I agree.

Some would suggest that true randomness does not exist and that cause and effect are present whether they are identifiable or not. I'm not so sure. I'd need much a deeper understanding of statistics and physics than I've attained to puzzle that one out.

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