Is the bible a fairy tale?
KJV

United States

#1874 May 28, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Sorry I have the Library card. "

You also could be,
the most ignorant person on the planet.
Salute!
Talk about ignorant.

The library card in the game "Clue"

You must be pretty short for that one to go over your head.
KJV

United States

#1878 May 28, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>Because you actually see the explosion.

Nobody has observed dark matter.
"Nobody has observed dark matter"

And lived to tell about it. LOL

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#1879 May 28, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Talk about ignorant.
The library card in the game "Clue"
You must be pretty short for that one to go over your head.[/QUOTE]
No I meant in REALITY, it's not a game.
Get a clue.
KJV

United States

#1880 May 28, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Buck I heard they are building a bigger flash light to look for that dark matter."

They describe it mathematically, then say they "observed" it.

It's bull shit.

Just like when they claimed that guy Ventor created life in the lab.

The religion of materialist science.

It's a miraculous thing.
Yes indeed.

We let atheist believe they created life it makes them so happy!

I'm creating life the old fashion way, my sprinkler is running 24 x 7 on a big pile of rocks should have new life any day now. Watch for me receiving the Noble prize for Science.
KJV

United States

#1881 May 28, 2013
susanblange wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Prove that God did not create a mature earth 6000 years ago. "

Each day of creation was 6000 years and we are living at the end of the seventh day. It is the year 6018 and we are starting a new week. The Messiah made her first appearance almost 30 years ago and the new week has unofficially commenced. The earth was renewed 42,000 years ago but is actually much older. The earth has also been renewed by ice ages and Noahs' flood. Genesis 2:4 "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth..." Modern man was created at the end of the sixth day and is unrelated to other species of man, like Neanderthals.
Why call 6000 years a day?

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#1882 May 28, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
An attempt to try and save face for science.
They found out that the universe expansion made no sense so they came up with the "DARK SIDE"
Wow are we ever impressed. Not.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure about impressions , but I'm pretty sure you are gargantuan stupid.
Dark matter has nothing to do with expansion, rather with how and why gravity works on a large scale.
KJV

United States

#1883 May 28, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>The problem is that you are completely insane...
She doesn't fit the definition of being insane.

in·sane\(ˌ)in-ˈsān\
adjective
1 : mentally disordered : as in believing in the Big Bang myth

2 : grouped by, typical of, or insane persons <all atheist are insane>

3 : absurd <an insane scheme for making the universe (big bang)>

4 : topix atheist posters.
KJV

United States

#1884 May 28, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
But science doesn't know if dark matter attracts or repels."

Yes, it does. Dark matter attracts. It forms clumps and can be detected through gravitational lensing.

[QUOTE]All they really know is gravity should be slowing down the expanding Universe and its not, so there must be something the opposite of gravity out there and they can't see it (or have a clue about it) so they call it "DARK MATTER" that would be the brother of "DARK ENERGY" most stuff they are clueless about. "

Dark matter and dark energy, in spite of the similar names, are very different things. The easiest aspect to explain is what happens to them when they expand. Just like ordinary matter, dark matter becomes less dense when it expands. In fact, dark matter acts like ordinary matter except for the fact that it doesn't interact with light (more specifically electromagnetic forces). It clumps like ordinary matter and can typically be found around galaxies and clusters of galaxies. We can map it out using its gravitational effects. We have some ideas what it is made from, but need confirmation from accelerators to be sure.

Dark energy is another beast entirely. It does not become less dense upon expansion. A very strange property, if you think about it. It was originally proposed by Einstein as a modification to his theory of gravity. because of its property of keeping density upon expansion, it is often called the energy of the vacuum. It always comes in as a repulsive term gravitationally and is the reason the expansion of the universe is accelerating.
"Yes, it does. Dark matter attracts. It forms clumps and can be detected through gravitational lensing."

So your dark matter is what causing the universe to expand by attraction? This would mean your dark matter is outside of the universe so it can attract matter to cause the expansion of the universe.
In other words dark matter does not exist in our universe.

If dark matter was in the universe and its attraction was stronger then gravity, the universe expansion would be slowing down or at least accelerating towards it.

98% of the universe is unknown.

So science is only sure about 2% of the universe. And yet you claim no God exist. 2%!!!!

Maybe that's why there is only 2% of the worlds population that are atheist?
KJV

United States

#1885 May 28, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
But science doesn't know if dark matter attracts or repels."

Yes, it does. Dark matter attracts. It forms clumps and can be detected through gravitational lensing.

[QUOTE]All they really know is gravity should be slowing down the expanding Universe and its not, so there must be something the opposite of gravity out there and they can't see it (or have a clue about it) so they call it "DARK MATTER" that would be the brother of "DARK ENERGY" most stuff they are clueless about. "

Dark matter and dark energy, in spite of the similar names, are very different things. The easiest aspect to explain is what happens to them when they expand. Just like ordinary matter, dark matter becomes less dense when it expands. In fact, dark matter acts like ordinary matter except for the fact that it doesn't interact with light (more specifically electromagnetic forces). It clumps like ordinary matter and can typically be found around galaxies and clusters of galaxies. We can map it out using its gravitational effects. We have some ideas what it is made from, but need confirmation from accelerators to be sure.

Dark energy is another beast entirely. It does not become less dense upon expansion. A very strange property, if you think about it. It was originally proposed by Einstein as a modification to his theory of gravity. because of its property of keeping density upon expansion, it is often called the energy of the vacuum. It always comes in as a repulsive term gravitationally and is the reason the expansion of the universe is accelerating.
"except for the fact that it doesn't interact with light (more specifically electromagnetic forces)"

EMF is not light. Not even close.
(By the way It's Electromotive Force)

"Electromotive force, also called emf[1](denoted and measured in volts), refers to voltage generated by a battery or by the magnetic force according to Faraday's Law, which states that a time varying magnetic field will induce an electric current.[2]

Electromotive "force" is not considered a force, as force is measured in newtons, but a potential, or energy per unit of charge, measured in volts.

In electromagnetic induction, emf can be defined around a closed loop as the electromagnetic work that would be transferred to a unit of charge if it travels once around that loop.[3](While the charge travels around the loop, it can simultaneously lose the energy via resistance into thermal energy.) For a time-varying magnetic flux impinging a loop, the electric potential scalar field is not defined due to circulating electric vector field, but nevertheless an emf does work that can be measured as a virtual electric potential around that loop.[4]"
KJV

United States

#1886 May 28, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
But science doesn't know if dark matter attracts or repels."

Yes, it does. Dark matter attracts. It forms clumps and can be detected through gravitational lensing.

[QUOTE]All they really know is gravity should be slowing down the expanding Universe and its not, so there must be something the opposite of gravity out there and they can't see it (or have a clue about it) so they call it "DARK MATTER" that would be the brother of "DARK ENERGY" most stuff they are clueless about. "

Dark matter and dark energy, in spite of the similar names, are very different things. The easiest aspect to explain is what happens to them when they expand. Just like ordinary matter, dark matter becomes less dense when it expands. In fact, dark matter acts like ordinary matter except for the fact that it doesn't interact with light (more specifically electromagnetic forces). It clumps like ordinary matter and can typically be found around galaxies and clusters of galaxies. We can map it out using its gravitational effects. We have some ideas what it is made from, but need confirmation from accelerators to be sure.

Dark energy is another beast entirely. It does not become less dense upon expansion. A very strange property, if you think about it. It was originally proposed by Einstein as a modification to his theory of gravity. because of its property of keeping density upon expansion, it is often called the energy of the vacuum. It always comes in as a repulsive term gravitationally and is the reason the expansion of the universe is accelerating.
"It always comes in as a repulsive term gravitationally and is the reason the expansion of the universe is accelerating"

You just posted that it is not a repulsive but attractions energy. Weird!

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#1891 May 28, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
"except for the fact that it doesn't interact with light (more specifically electromagnetic forces)"
EMF is not light. Not even close.
(By the way It's Electromotive Force)
"Electromotive force, also called emf[1](denoted and measured in volts), refers to voltage generated by a battery or by the magnetic force according to Faraday's Law, which states that a time varying magnetic field will induce an electric current.[2]
Electromotive "force" is not considered a force, as force is measured in newtons, but a potential, or energy per unit of charge, measured in volts.
In electromagnetic induction, emf can be defined around a closed loop as the electromagnetic work that would be transferred to a unit of charge if it travels once around that loop.[3](While the charge travels around the loop, it can simultaneously lose the energy via resistance into thermal energy.) For a time-varying magnetic flux impinging a loop, the electric potential scalar field is not defined due to circulating electric vector field, but nevertheless an emf does work that can be measured as a virtual electric potential around that loop.[4]"[/QUOTE] You should try to be acquainted with basics, before engaging masters. At personal
risk of looking stupid , but wth? Why would you care if people think it? The visible is only a part of a greater thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_...

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#1892 May 28, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Ummmm. Nope.[/QUOTE] Um Yes! and exactly.
Kenny

Katy, TX

#1893 May 28, 2013
Too much wisdom in the Bible. Must be of a Divine nature.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1894 May 28, 2013
Kenny wrote:
Too much wisdom in the Bible. Must be of a Divine nature.
"wisdom"?

Can you name.... ONE such thing? In the bible, I mean, that is ..."wise"?

No?

Interesting...
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#1895 May 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
"wisdom"?
Can you name.... ONE such thing? In the bible, I mean, that is ..."wise"?
According to Christians, Jesus is the incarnation of the creator of the universe. Let us examine the wisdom of the all-knowing all-wise creator.

In Matthew 15:26 he says to a gentile woman: "It is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs.” The all-wise, all-loving creator of the universe apparently is a xenophobe. He has an intense irrational dislike of people from other countries. Wow! Just like the religious peeps in that part of the world today! Wise my ass!:D
Andre

Durban, South Africa

#1896 May 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you SHOW the actual HISTORICAL EVIDENCE of your ... "jesus"?
Hint: if you resort to CHRISTIAN "historians"? You lose-- they have an agenda, and cannot be trusted to be objective about facts.
Can you do this? Cite a NON-CHRISTIAN (and non-Jew too) historian who can then show HISTORICAL facts that demonstrate your jesus was real?
I've got $100 that you cannot.....
Hi Bob. Please refer to my previous posts. Of course Christian historians can easily be accused of an agenda. However none of the references and historians I quoted were Christians and some of them were actually "anti-Christian". You may know that all new evidence always supports rather than disproves the Bible. Such is the case for instance with Nazareth (although evidence has already been found in 2009 of a society at the time of Jesus, it is still presented by some chappies as "evidence" of false information in the Bible.)

In fact, the issue that is really debated is the resurrection and ascension. Every now and then there are claims that they have "found Jesus' remains - which then dies a quiet death.
Andre

Durban, South Africa

#1897 May 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? If it was SO easy? WHY DID YOU FAIL?
Hmmmm.....
I asked for evidence for the claim - which was not forthcoming. Maybe you can suggest something? Do you agree with Peter Singer, a bioethicist from Princeton University that has suggested that parents should have the right to decide to kill their disabled or unhealthy newborn babies within 28 days of birth?
He is regarded as "the most important living (atheist) philosopher.
Andre

Durban, South Africa

#1898 May 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
All the bible "prophecies" are 100% false.
You claim, you prove.
Andre

Durban, South Africa

#1899 May 29, 2013
spudgun wrote:
<quoted text>
According to Christians, Jesus is the incarnation of the creator of the universe. Let us examine the wisdom of the all-knowing all-wise creator.
In Matthew 15:26 he says to a gentile woman: "It is not right to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs.” The all-wise, all-loving creator of the universe apparently is a xenophobe. He has an intense irrational dislike of people from other countries. Wow! Just like the religious peeps in that part of the world today! Wise my ass!:D
I think you have actually proved the opposite. Jesus used the language that typical Jews would use in respect of non-Jews, but it is stated in the very next verse, He healed her daughter (but that you would not accept, I suppose). This is already an indication that his salvation is for all nations, not the Jews only.
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#1900 May 29, 2013
Andre wrote:
<quoted text>He healed her daughter (but that you would not accept, I suppose).
You are correct I do not accept the existence of faith healing. Miracles do not happen today amongst educated and civilised people. Claims of miracles are common amongst the superstitious and ignorant people of antiquity. I think it likely that a single miracle has never happended in the whole of history. This is a reasonable conclusion on the basis that the laws of nature do not appear to change, and claims of miracles are of a highly dubious nature.

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