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Ray wrote:
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even as a christian, i had to give that explaination the picard 3 hand facepalm. its bad enough were accused of making everything religious, we dont need science being christified any more than whats appropriate.
What is that supposed to mean?

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May 27, 2013
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> What is that supposed to mean?
i was agreeing with u on the comment you made, sorry for making it seem like it was u i was directing it at lol. the post u commented on was enough to make me use the trusty facepalm.

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Aura Mytha wrote:
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You only observe the effects of an explosion.
When you see these effects you know it was an explosion.
Why then cannot seeing the effects of dark matter be considered seeing it as an explanation the same way as the explanation of seeing the explosion?
Because you actually see the explosion.

Nobody has observed dark matter.

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Once again, since dark matter doesn't interact strongly with light, we will never observe it using your definition of 'observe'. Fortunately, people understand that observation *always* requires a sequences of causal links, often quite long sequences.
Once again, is it an observation when we take a picture? How about if the camera uses infrared rather than visual light? Or when we use scintillation screens and chlorine to detect neutrinos?
Most scientists would consider *all* of those to be observations. And the observation of dark matter isn't qualitatively different than those.
"Detecting" is not "observing", and observing a picture of an object is not observing the object.

Nobody has observed dark matter.

If it cannot be observed, that's your problem, not mine.

I'm fine with admitting it hasn't been observed.

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Buck I heard they are building a bigger flash light to look for that dark matter.[/QUOTE]

They describe it mathematically, then say they "observed" it.

It's bull shit.

Just like when they claimed that guy Ventor created life in the lab.

The religion of materialist science.

It's a miraculous thing.

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In this sense, we have never observed a flower. We have observed an effect (light reflected) and attribute the effect to a flower.
No.

We didn't attribute some effect to a flower.

We form a visual image conceived in the brain as a flower.

Have we done that with dark matter?

No.

We have not done that with dark matter.

So it's not the same.

You are wrong again.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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Because you actually see the explosion.
Nobody has observed dark matter.
http://home.slac.stanford.edu/pressreleases/2...
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Prove that God did not create a mature earth 6000 years ago.[/QUOTE]Each day of creation was 6000 years and we are living at the end of the seventh day. It is the year 6018 and we are starting a new week. The Messiah made her first appearance almost 30 years ago and the new week has unofficially commenced. The earth was renewed 42,000 years ago but is actually much older. The earth has also been renewed by ice ages and Noahs' flood. Genesis 2:4 "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth..." Modern man was created at the end of the sixth day and is unrelated to other species of man, like Neanderthals.
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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>God you people are stupid!
Dark matter is the explanation of missing mass in the universe.
How do we know there is missing mass? Where did it go? Wasn't it drawn in to a planet or other celestial body by a gravitational pull? Hell is a black hole where there is an absence of energy. It is dark and cold and you're sucked into it and it flows in a straight line thru time and space forever.
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Imhotep wrote:
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Study the word fossil.
It's in the big book called an encyclopedia with pictures.
Study Cro-Magnon, Neanderthal Man.
Sorry I forgot you can't read anything except if it's in the Bible.
Better stick with the talking snake and donkey I think that's about as far as your intelligence is going let you go.
"The simple believe every word, but the prudent looks well to his going" The serpent itself did not speak, it was dick head Adam, the serpent was a part of his anatomy. The story of Adam and Eve is a parable and not meant to be taken literally. Balaams' donkey also did not speak as a human would, but it did communicate. Much in the same way I communicate with my cats and they with me.

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susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Each day of creation was 6000 years and we are living at the end of the seventh day. It is the year 6018 and we are starting a new week. The Messiah made her first appearance almost 30 years ago and the new week has unofficially commenced. The earth was renewed 42,000 years ago but is actually much older. The earth has also been renewed by ice ages and Noahs' flood. Genesis 2:4 "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth..." Modern man was created at the end of the sixth day and is unrelated to other species of man, like Neanderthals.
Since you made up this garbage, its your job to prove it, not our job to disprove it.

Start with a Google search for "the age of the universe". Here's some help:

https://www.google.co.uk/search...
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-Skeptic- wrote:
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Since you made up this garbage, its your job to prove it, not our job to disprove it.
Start with a Google search for "the age of the universe". Here's some help:
https://www.google.co.uk/search...
I don't know what the problem is, I can agree the earth is billions of years old and the universe even older. There existed also Neanderthal and Cro magnon peoples but they were unrelated to Homo sapiens. I believe in both creation and evolution and they are compatible. God will recreate and renew the heavens and the earth at least one more time.

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May 28, 2013
 
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know what the problem is, I can agree the earth is billions of years old and the universe even older. There existed also Neanderthal and Cro magnon peoples but they were unrelated to Homo sapiens. I believe in both creation and evolution and they are compatible. God will recreate and renew the heavens and the earth at least one more time.
The problem is that you are completely insane...

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#1845
May 28, 2013
 
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know what the problem is, I can agree the earth is billions of years old and the universe even older. There existed also Neanderthal and Cro magnon peoples but they were unrelated to Homo sapiens. I believe in both creation and evolution and they are compatible. God will recreate and renew the heavens and the earth at least one more time.
You're a mentally ill and are talking about a god that isn't real with no proof once again.

Evolution is a proven fact and creationism is a cult, they are not compatible and you know. Do yourself a favour and take your drunk a$$ off this forum.
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May 28, 2013
 
Just Think wrote:
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The problem is that you are completely insane...
Intellect and creativity causes mental illness. Most geniuses are insane. Psalm 38:7 "For my loins are filled with a loathsome disease, and there is no soundness in my flesh" Please do not respond to any more of my posts. BTW, my doctor of 36 years is Elijah, is Jewish, and he believes in me. Go figure...

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Buck Crick wrote:
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No.
We didn't attribute some effect to a flower.
We form a visual image conceived in the brain as a flower.
Have we done that with dark matter?
No.
We have not done that with dark matter.
So it's not the same.
You are wrong again.
Observation is not the same thing as seeing. You are describing seeing, not observation.

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May 28, 2013
 
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But science doesn't know if dark matter attracts or repels.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it does. Dark matter attracts. It forms clumps and can be detected through gravitational lensing.
All they really know is gravity should be slowing down the expanding Universe and its not, so there must be something the opposite of gravity out there and they can't see it (or have a clue about it) so they call it "DARK MATTER" that would be the brother of "DARK ENERGY" most stuff they are clueless about.
Dark matter and dark energy, in spite of the similar names, are very different things. The easiest aspect to explain is what happens to them when they expand. Just like ordinary matter, dark matter becomes less dense when it expands. In fact, dark matter acts like ordinary matter except for the fact that it doesn't interact with light (more specifically electromagnetic forces). It clumps like ordinary matter and can typically be found around galaxies and clusters of galaxies. We can map it out using its gravitational effects. We have some ideas what it is made from, but need confirmation from accelerators to be sure.

Dark energy is another beast entirely. It does not become less dense upon expansion. A very strange property, if you think about it. It was originally proposed by Einstein as a modification to his theory of gravity. because of its property of keeping density upon expansion, it is often called the energy of the vacuum. It always comes in as a repulsive term gravitationally and is the reason the expansion of the universe is accelerating.

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susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Intellect and creativity causes mental illness. Most geniuses are insane. Psalm 38:7 "For my loins are filled with a loathsome disease, and there is no soundness in my flesh" Please do not respond to any more of my posts. BTW, my doctor of 36 years is Elijah, is Jewish, and he believes in me. Go figure...
Even IF most geniuses are insane, it does not necessarily follow that all insane people are geniuses...

Exhibit A - you.
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#1850
May 28, 2013
 
Susanblange, you could perhaps get some secular counselling. Which doesnt mean you are mad. Just that you can get better control over your life, and achieve a better standard of mental health, which all of us need at some point in our lives.
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#1851
May 28, 2013
 
spudgun wrote:
Susanblange, you could perhaps get some secular counselling. Which doesnt mean you are mad. Just that you can get better control over your life, and achieve a better standard of mental health, which all of us need at some point in our lives.
I have seen the same psychiatrist for 36 years and have the best of care, I am also a famous case history. My doctor is Elijah, is Jewish, and he believes in me. I'm not as crazy as I seem but none the less I AM. Psalm 38:7 "For my loins are filled with a loathsome disease and there is no soundness in my flesh".

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