The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1415 May 16, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
Matthew 11:28-29
“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
Have a Godly day...:)
http://www.thebricktestament.com/king_saul/go...
KJV

United States

#1416 May 16, 2013
Misa wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
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Ok you got me,
Now name one item that exist and has no cause. "

The causally closed set of events we're part of.
You believe you have no cause?
KJV

United States

#1417 May 16, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]
http://www.rubak.com/article.cfm...
Part 7
The simple question that should come to mind then is: What is at the other side of the barrier?
With this basic understanding, we must conclude that anything on the other side of this "barrier", even if it's pure empty space must also be a part of the universe. Even if the other side consists of space/matter that doesn't conform to any law of physics currently known to man, it does still exist, and therefore must be included in the list of "Everything that exists anywhere" and therefore is part of the universe.
This means that any imagined barrier to the universe can not exist.
OK so just for thoroughness let's take away an assumption: Let's assume that the aforementioned "barrier" has no other side. To do this it must be a barrier of infinite thickness. Anything less would create another "side" as mentioned above.
OK so we now have a barrier of unknown composition and infinite thickness enclosing the entire universe.
What's wrong with this picture? Simple: Any barrier, no matter what it's made of, how impenetrable or how thick is still a part of this universe. Even a barrier of a thickness of 10,001,000 googolplex light-years (Trust me that's VERY thick) is still a part of this universe. The fact that we can't analyze it, penetrate it or get any information on its internal composition doesn't mean that isn't a part of the universe.
So if the barrier to the universe is infinite in thickness and since the barrier is part of the universe, the universe is also infinite in size.
If no barrier to the universe exists, then the universe is still infinite in size.
If the outermost edge of the universe is completely empty space then the universe is still infinite in size.
Ultimate conclusion: The universe is infinite in size at all times.
Since this is the case, the big bang becomes not the creation of the universe, but only a major occurrence during its existence.
The birth of a tree
How old would a tree be in the year 2002 if the seed start sprouting back in 1921? The obvious answer is 81 years old.
But how old is the seed? How long did it exist before it started sprouting? How long ago was it on the tree from which it sprouted? How old is the mother tree?
The basic information given can't give us the full picture in terms of multigenerational questions.
If a Big Bang actually occurred, the most likely scenario is that is part of a cycle of explosion, contraction, explosion and contraction ad infinitum. One explosion is simply one generation of an infinite life span. In fact, my guess is that Big Bangs happen in multiple places at different times.
The second purpose of this article is to layout other truths in conjunction with dispelling the theory.
The universe is infinite in size and time
Time had no beginning and will have no end
In other words, the universe is infinite in size, has always existed and will never end.
Why do I believe these concepts? Simply because any other explanation I've found runs into many of the same problems. Mainly: "But what happened before that?"
The funny part is that most opponents to these truths I show usually don't like the concept of an infinitely sized, never-beginning, never-ending universe. Then they try to hurt these arguments with rebuttal theories involving something equally large such as an infinite sized barrier or an infinitely powered deity.
I would like to hear if you have another plausible more logical explanation than a never-ending universe.
"

Here, read some real books on Physics:-
http://isohunt.com/torrents/physics+pdf...

Instead of the made up stuff.
Not as amusing sorry.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1418 May 16, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Quantum Mechanics the failed theory?
Geez, you still using that ancient quote-mine?
KJV

United States

#1419 May 16, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>So no answer.
Was there a question for me?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1420 May 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
God was not made. No where is there ever a claim that God once never existed. The same cannot be said for the universe. Science claims has only existed 13.7 billion years. Why that no time at all when compared to the national debt that's in the Trillions.[/QUOTE]

If the universe requires a cause then God requires a cause. Otherwise you are in the realm of hypocrisy of the highest order.

Of course being a fundie and all, there's no getting away from that, so...

(shrug)
KJV

United States

#1421 May 16, 2013
The Dude wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Sceptic
I've already posted ton of evidence and proof so get over it. "

http://manilovefilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2...
And that would be your proof of the Big Bang?

Buybull the great book on evolution!

B - bull crap
U - unproven theory
Y - yelled from the roof tops
B - beseeching all to listen to an
U - unscientific
L - loony toon
L - lie
Misa

Weymouth, UK

#1422 May 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
You believe you have no cause?[/QUOTE]

Did I say that? No.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1423 May 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
And that would be your proof of the Big Bang?
[/QUOTE]

Remind us again which was able to predict background radiation to an accuracy of three parts per million? You can apologise now.
Misa

Weymouth, UK

#1424 May 16, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Remind us again which was able to predict background radiation to an accuracy of three parts per million?...
And explain the relative abundances of light elements... and the redshift of distant galaxies... and the characteristics of the Lyman-alpha forest. Oh, and the fact that the sky is dark at night.

:-)

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#1425 May 16, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Not as amusing sorry.
Who said real science was funny.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#1426 May 16, 2013
CunningLinguist wrote:
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As a visitor to heaven you should be able to explain this as well...
Since their bodies only make use of half of the food they consume, the elephant must eat between 330 and 350 pounds of food each day.
For two Elephants to survive 40 days would require how much food?
Hmm - let's go LO-Ball
660 x 40 = 26400 pounds of food for these animals alone.
Where did Noah store the food?
And what kept the insects alive since so many animals eat them?
Were they all placed into hibernation for 40 days?
Who said elephants were on the ark? Noah and his family spent their time fishing (for food) and there were no insects on the ark. I hope the answers your questions.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1427 May 16, 2013
Misa wrote:
<quoted text>
And explain the relative abundances of light elements... and the redshift of distant galaxies... and the characteristics of the Lyman-alpha forest. Oh, and the fact that the sky is dark at night.
:-)
Goddidit with magic!

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#1428 May 16, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Who said elephants were on the ark? Noah and his family spent their time fishing (for food) and there were no insects on the ark. I hope the answers your questions.
Genesis 6 19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
Elephants are animals.
BTW it is your book of myths.
Misa

Weymouth, UK

#1429 May 16, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Who said elephants were on the ark? Noah and his family spent their time fishing (for food) and there were no insects on the ark. I hope the answers your questions.
I thought every kind of animal was represented, according to the myth? Why would that exclude elephants and insects?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1430 May 16, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Who said elephants were on the ark? Noah and his family spent their time fishing (for food) and there were no insects on the ark. I hope the answers your questions.
The Ark story is irrelevant. If we are to be generous and allow you to have Noah, his seven family members and a bunch of animals on a boat (despite the complete and total utter lack of historical evidence) then the scenario is moot because it was just a local event. Large floods have happened a lot during Earth's history.

But if you're invoking a global flood then it's too bad, as none of us were even born to be able to talk about it.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#1431 May 16, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
If you told me seriously that I would be thrown off a hovercraft into a giant p ssy with tentacles in the middle of the desert I'd probably take you much more seriously.
God gave you free will and your destiny is in your own hands. I would advise not doing anything I couldn't take back. Good luck !!
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#1432 May 16, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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No, you just see visions:
http://brian.carnell.com/wp-content/uploads/2...
I had one vision which was caused by the Holy Spirit. There is coming a time when God will "pour out his spirit upon all flesh, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions. So the whole world is going to go crazy.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1433 May 16, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>God gave you free will and your destiny is in your own hands.
Sorry, the concept of free will is incompatible with that of a God. You've been told why before.
susanblange wrote:
I would advise not doing anything I couldn't take back. Good luck !!
I make a habit of not taking advice off people who see things that are not there but tell us they will be maybe next year.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1434 May 16, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I had one vision which was caused by the Holy Spirit.
http://www.spirituosenworld.de/produkte/wodka...

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