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KJV

United States

#1393 May 16, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Riggggghhhhhhjtttttttt.
The Big Bang starts at the explosion and doesn't dare try to explain what exploded. There was nothing before the Big Bang and everything after the Big Bang how do you get from one to the other? Sure science can't tell you. "

Yes, proving the 'Big Bang' theory does not negate God...
Yes it's all about what created the Big Bang and cause it to exist and explode.

To this day not one (real) scientist will tell you that nothing can explode and create it all.
Misa

Weymouth, UK

#1394 May 16, 2013
KJV wrote:
Regardless of the size of the universe, let's pretend that we are at the edge where the "universe defining light" is speeding its way out.
I literally laughed out loud reading this nonsense. Whoever wrote this doesn't have the slightest idea about what the big bang theory actually says.

For heaven's sake, go and do some reading.
KJV

United States

#1395 May 16, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>There is no need for a god, regardless.

In any case, Quantum Mechanics does negate your idea of god.

An omniscient being would collapse the universe.

The universe is here, therefore your god isn't.
Quantum Mechanics the failed theory?

Wikipedia:
If anyone finds a case where all or part of a scientific theory is false, then that theory is either changed or thrown out.

A scientific theory in one branch of science must hold true in all of the other branches of science.

BRIAN GREENE: It's a little known secret but for more than half a century a dark cloud has been looming over modern science. Here's the problem: our understanding of the universe is based on two separate theories. One is Einstein's general theory of relativity—that's a way of understanding the biggest things in the universe, things like stars and galaxies. But the littlest things in the universe, atoms and subatomic particles, play by an entirely different set of rules called, "quantum Mechanics"

These two sets of rules are each incredibly accurate in their own domain but whenever we try to combine them, to solve some of the deepest mysteries in the universe, disaster strikes.

Take the beginning of the universe, the "big bang." At that instant a tiny nugget erupted violently. Over the next 14 billion years the universe expanded and cooled into the stars, galaxies and planets we see today. But if we run the cosmic film in reverse, everything that's now rushing apart comes back together, so the universe gets smaller, hotter and denser as we head back to the beginning of time.

As we reach the big bang, when the universe was both enormously heavy and incredibly tiny, our projector jams. Our two laws of physics, when combined, break down.

Wikipedia:
If anyone finds a case where all or part of a scientific theory is false, then that theory is either changed or thrown out.

A scientific theory in one branch of science must hold true in all of the other branches of science.

From Nova:

"For decades, every attempt to describe the force of gravity in the same language as the other forces—the language of quantum mechanics—has met with disaster

S. JAMES GATES, JR.: You try to put those two pieces of mathematics together, they do not coexist peacefully.

S. JAMES GATES, JR.: The laws of nature are supposed to apply everywhere. So if Einstein's laws are supposed to apply everywhere, and the laws of quantum mechanics are supposed to apply everywhere, well you can't have two separate everywheres.

RIGHT SIDE BRIAN GREENE: In the years since, physics split into two separate camps: one that uses general relativity to study big and heavy objects, things like stars, galaxies and the universe as a whole...

LEFT SIDE BRIAN GREENE:...and another that uses quantum mechanics to study the tiniest of objects, like atoms and particles. This has been kind of like having two families that just cannot get along and never talk to each other...

LEFT SIDE BRIAN GREENE: There just seemed to be no way to combine quantum mechanics...

RIGHT SIDE BRIAN GREENE:...and general relativity in a single theory that could describe the universe on all scales.

So here's the question: if you're trying to figure out what happens in the depths of a black hole, where an entire star is crushed to a tiny speck, do you use general relativity because the star is incredibly heavy or quantum mechanics because it's incredibly tiny?

Well, that's the problem. Since the center of a black hole is both tiny and heavy, you can't avoid using both theories at the same time. And when we try to put the two theories together in the realm of black holes, they conflict. It breaks down. They give nonsensical predictions. And the universe is not nonsensical; it's got to make sense.
Misa

Weymouth, UK

#1396 May 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Ok you got me,
Now name one item that exist and has no cause.[/QUOTE]

The causally closed set of events we're part of.
Misa

Weymouth, UK

#1398 May 16, 2013
Stupid quote tags. Let's have another go.
KJV wrote:
Ok you got me,
Now name one item that exist and has no cause.
The causally closed set of events we're part of.
KJV

United States

#1399 May 16, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>What!!

Sacrilege!

Of course there is a need for a god. We need a god to make the universe in the first place.

Then we need an uber-god to make the god that made the universe.

Then we need an uber-uber-god to make the gods that make the universes.

Oh oh, I think I might have opened up an ugly can of worms here.
God was not made. No where is there ever a claim that God once never existed. The same cannot be said for the universe. Science claims has only existed 13.7 billion years. Why that no time at all when compared to the national debt that's in the Trillions.
KJV

United States

#1400 May 16, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
<quoted text>Show me an example of how QM disproves God?

YOU, no one else...
I hope you don't die of laughter on this one.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#1401 May 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]
http://www.rubak.com/article.cfm...
Part 7
The simple question that should come to mind then is: What is at the other side of the barrier?
With this basic understanding, we must conclude that anything on the other side of this "barrier", even if it's pure empty space must also be a part of the universe. Even if the other side consists of space/matter that doesn't conform to any law of physics currently known to man, it does still exist, and therefore must be included in the list of "Everything that exists anywhere" and therefore is part of the universe.
This means that any imagined barrier to the universe can not exist.
OK so just for thoroughness let's take away an assumption: Let's assume that the aforementioned "barrier" has no other side. To do this it must be a barrier of infinite thickness. Anything less would create another "side" as mentioned above.
OK so we now have a barrier of unknown composition and infinite thickness enclosing the entire universe.
What's wrong with this picture? Simple: Any barrier, no matter what it's made of, how impenetrable or how thick is still a part of this universe. Even a barrier of a thickness of 10,001,000 googolplex light-years (Trust me that's VERY thick) is still a part of this universe. The fact that we can't analyze it, penetrate it or get any information on its internal composition doesn't mean that isn't a part of the universe.
So if the barrier to the universe is infinite in thickness and since the barrier is part of the universe, the universe is also infinite in size.
If no barrier to the universe exists, then the universe is still infinite in size.
If the outermost edge of the universe is completely empty space then the universe is still infinite in size.
Ultimate conclusion: The universe is infinite in size at all times.
Since this is the case, the big bang becomes not the creation of the universe, but only a major occurrence during its existence.
The birth of a tree
How old would a tree be in the year 2002 if the seed start sprouting back in 1921? The obvious answer is 81 years old.
But how old is the seed? How long did it exist before it started sprouting? How long ago was it on the tree from which it sprouted? How old is the mother tree?
The basic information given can't give us the full picture in terms of multigenerational questions.
If a Big Bang actually occurred, the most likely scenario is that is part of a cycle of explosion, contraction, explosion and contraction ad infinitum. One explosion is simply one generation of an infinite life span. In fact, my guess is that Big Bangs happen in multiple places at different times.
The second purpose of this article is to layout other truths in conjunction with dispelling the theory.
The universe is infinite in size and time
Time had no beginning and will have no end
In other words, the universe is infinite in size, has always existed and will never end.
Why do I believe these concepts? Simply because any other explanation I've found runs into many of the same problems. Mainly: "But what happened before that?"
The funny part is that most opponents to these truths I show usually don't like the concept of an infinitely sized, never-beginning, never-ending universe. Then they try to hurt these arguments with rebuttal theories involving something equally large such as an infinite sized barrier or an infinitely powered deity.
I would like to hear if you have another plausible more logical explanation than a never-ending universe.
[/QUOTE]

Here, read some real books on Physics:-
http://isohunt.com/torrents/physics+pdf...

Instead of the made up stuff.
KJV

United States

#1402 May 16, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>Just prove your god and stop lying, thats all we ask of you.

Practice what you preach.
Sceptic
I've already posted ton of evidence and proof so get over it.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#1404 May 16, 2013
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
Susan is harmless and very funny. I like her, even though I cannot agree with her bizarre views.
Of course she suffers from extreme religious dementia but is entertaining to chat with.
WHY?
This is an adventure into the seriously deluded religious mind.
For each question posed she must create a believable scenario, which will prove to be impossible, and unintentionally hilarious.
Naturally, she shall continue to pursue this endeavor until the indicated time expires and she is left wanting.
We she then admit, she has been wrong? No, No a 1000 times NO!
;)
We can thank Susan again for reminding us that Gods word is ANYTHING BUT eternal and unchanging as advertised.
Agree, the problem is that some fool out there might actually believe her.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1405 May 16, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Hell is a sea with a whirlpool that spins in a straight line thru time and space forever. Hell is also a black hole and you're sucked into it. There is an absence of energy, it is freezing cold and utter darkness. You've heard of the Bermuda and Devils triangle, there is a third one in the north atlantic off the coast of Finland. That will be your entrance to heaven and hell, each triangle serves two continents. But don't worry, hell isn't forever after your sentence is up your spirit (breath) will be snuffed out and drowned and you will cease to exist. I had a vision of my own death and I saw hell, that's how I know. People who have committed a deadly sin will only get one chance to repent.
If you told me seriously that I would be thrown off a hovercraft into a giant p ssy with tentacles in the middle of the desert I'd probably take you much more seriously.
KJV

United States

#1406 May 16, 2013
spudgun wrote:
<quoted text>Prove it.

Where is the real evidence? Stuff written by superstitious desert tribes doesnt count :)
Look in the mirror. Although it doesn't seem to last long in your case. I guess you need a soul to keep it working right.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#1407 May 16, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
I hope you don't die of laughter on this one.
So no answer.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1408 May 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
Sceptic
I've already posted ton of evidence and proof so get over it.[/QUOTE]

http://manilovefilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2...
KJV

United States

#1409 May 16, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>Your god sounds like a psychopathic douchebag.
You've heard him?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1410 May 16, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus was schizo too. He heard a voice that said, "This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased". But I doubt it ever really happened, unless it was Satan talking to him. By the way, I don't hear voices.
No, you just see visions:

http://brian.carnell.com/wp-content/uploads/2...
KJV

United States

#1411 May 16, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>Your god sounds like a psychopathic douchebag.
More importantly you've heard a psychopathic douchebag?

Weird!
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1412 May 16, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>How did you come up with those odds?
Easy. About 10,000 gods have been proposed during Earth's history. Leaving the other three possibilties:

1 - You believe in your own special idea of God and it just so happens to be that one.

2 - A God exists but is nothing at all whatsoever like what you expected.

3 - It doesn't exist at all.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#1413 May 16, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
If you told me seriously that I would be thrown off a hovercraft into a giant p ssy with tentacles in the middle of the desert I'd probably take you much more seriously.
Speaking of which...
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Instead of spending it on ass-lube like you do?
Misa

Weymouth, UK

#1414 May 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
More importantly you've heard a psychopathic douchebag?
Weird![/QUOTE]

Yeah, how weird! I mean, just because He carried out multiple genocides, condemns people to punishments far out of proportion to their crimes, demands that people worship Him but refuses to prove He even exists, and tortured innocent people just to see how they would react... Sheesh, how could anyone call that psychopathic?

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