Is the bible a fairy tale?

“Think&Care”

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#1086 May 11, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
How about you disprove god.
Sure. You tell me what public test would convince you of the non-existence of God, and I will do it. I can give you several tests that would convince me that the universe was created by an intelligence. Here's a couple:

1. A collection of millisecond pulsars at varying distances, but that appear to be synchronized at Earth that spell out YHWH in the sky.

2. A copy of the Hebrew version of Genesis encoded in the DNA of all humans.

See? Both of those would be unambiguous signals that the Biblical God created either the universe or life on Earth.

Now, it is your turn: what observation would convince you that you are wrong?
KJV

United States

#1087 May 11, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
<quoted text>So you are a Jew as well? I am a Jew, but converted to Christianity.

You say your practices though are not identical to those of the Jews, but if you abide by 613 laws, you must follow them all.

Christians aren't part of the covenant between G-d and Jews.

*You are very different. It's like you have your own set of rules... Hhhmmm
Snevaeh legna

If you've not watched it you should check out the DVD call "The Star of Bethlehem". Pretty assume.
KJV

United States

#1088 May 11, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
[QUOTE who="KJV
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Again bobby can't help but think of butts. You're a very sick individual. "

Jealous?

You know you are....
Sick

“Think&Care”

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#1089 May 11, 2013
Prophet of peace wrote:
<quoted text>You hallucinate that there is no God, but deep down you know there is. You are without excuse because his magnificence is characterized in all he's made.
No, we do NOT know there is a God. If anything, it seems an extremely unlikely scenario.

OK, so here's your assignment: Universe A is created by an intelligent deity. Universe B is not, but follow the laws of physics. Find some observation that is public and unambiguous that shows we are not in universe B. Notice that in both universes, there are trees, life, water, stars, etc.
KJV

United States

#1090 May 11, 2013
Lujan Khabadnitzkino wrote:
anyone who believe in God, is a total IDIOT, better try to study EVOLUTION sciences!. don't continue to be a typical Yankee (mean a RETARDED individual who's extremely immature)!
Note:^^^ the power of the atheist brain at work!
KJV

United States

#1091 May 11, 2013
Lujan Khabadnitzkino wrote:
Here in Covina S. California 99.9% of the POPULATION is totally RETARDED,(being RELIGIOUS), same foes for the rest of the USA&THE WORLD!.(AL Qaeda &Taliban, and all the Moslem/Muslim/Christian @Jews are included! The DUMMIES!
Wow must be pretty amazing to be the only enlightened one in town!

(Normally that's called the town fool)
KJV

United States

#1092 May 11, 2013
Lujan Khabadnitzkino wrote:
Intelligent folks are extremely rare,that's why atheist are few!
Well at least they have you.
KJV

United States

#1093 May 11, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>Why are you still ying to us about a god you have no proof of? This is the theist's disease.
We got the proof Septic.
KJV

United States

#1094 May 11, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't hallucinate god - you did.

You need to give us a good reason to believe your hallucinations and general mentally ill faith based babbling.
Don't believe! We're just yanking your chain. You win. It was fun. You can go now.

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#1095 May 11, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
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Which god?
The one who seems to offend you so much.

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#1096 May 11, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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No, we do NOT know there is a God. If anything, it seems an extremely unlikely scenario.
OK, so here's your assignment: Universe A is created by an intelligent deity. Universe B is not, but follow the laws of physics. Find some observation that is public and unambiguous that shows we are not in universe B. Notice that in both universes, there are trees, life, water, stars, etc.
I think you miss the larger picture. Neither Universe A or B could exist without an extremely intelligent life-form (God). The level of complexity and order we see in this physical reality demands an explanation that science cannot give.

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#1097 May 11, 2013
Prophet of peace wrote:
<quoted text>I think you miss the larger picture. Neither Universe A or B could exist without an extremely intelligent life-form (God). The level of complexity and order we see in this physical reality demands an explanation that science cannot give.
Liar with no proof of god who doesn't have any morals.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#1098 May 11, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
We got the proof Septic.[/QUOTE]

No, if any of the regular theistic contributors had proof of any of the many religious claims bandies about, one of them would have surely posted it here in the atheism forum. That no one has is pretty strong evidence that no such proof is known to anyone who posts here.

Buck Crick

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#1099 May 11, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure. You tell me what public test would convince you of the non-existence of God, and I will do it. I can give you several tests that would convince me that the universe was created by an intelligence. Here's a couple:
1. A collection of millisecond pulsars at varying distances, but that appear to be synchronized at Earth that spell out YHWH in the sky.
2. A copy of the Hebrew version of Genesis encoded in the DNA of all humans.
See? Both of those would be unambiguous signals that the Biblical God created either the universe or life on Earth.
Now, it is your turn: what observation would convince you that you are wrong?
Your list of tests seems less than exhaustive.

If the same standard were applied to scientific theory, few would have ever gained traction.

I'll give you a test:

What is the minimal evidence necessary to convert you to a theist?

Clearly, the list you provided is not it, unless you're stupid.

Would this test suffice:

A discovery of signature signs of intelligence in the DNA molecule.

Anthony Flew thought this evidence was significant. In fact it turned a lifelong atheist of revered intellect into a theist:

"The evidential situation of natural (as opposed to revealed) theology has been transformed in the more than fifty years since Watson and Crick won the Nobel Prize for their discovery of the double helix structure of DNA. It has become inordinately difficult even to begin to think about constructing a naturalistic theory of the evolution of that first reproducing organism".

-Anthony Flew, August 2004

As I mentioned, Flew's intellect as an atheist was revered, much more so than yours.
KJV

United States

#1100 May 11, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>The burden of proof is on the cowardly idiot who:

1. hallucinates gods,
2. lies to other people about them and then
3. attacks people when they don't agree with their own personal mental illness of faith.

All we are waiting for are theists who are not

1. Cowards
2. Liars about god
3. Willfully ignorant Liars who attack atheists & science.

If anyone can show me a theist who is not any of the above 3 classic theist characteristics 100% bet they are Atheist.
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>Atheists believe there are no gods.

Note the plural, wetpants.
Khatru:
"Atheists believe there are no gods."

Bingo!!

A positive belief!!
As in Religion!

A positive assertion in a belief put the burden of proof on "you" that there is no gods!

This is a perfect example of an Atheist that DOES believe there is no God.

Not an atheist that has an absence of all beliefs.

Merriam-Webster
athe·ist\ˈā-thē-ist\
noun
: one who believes that there is no deity

Point proven!

To easy.

LOL

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#1101 May 11, 2013
Prophet of peace wrote:
<quoted text>I think you miss the larger picture. Neither Universe A or B could exist without an extremely intelligent life-form (God). The level of complexity and order we see in this physical reality demands an explanation that science cannot give.
Thse assertions need further support in order to be credible outside of the creationist crowd. If you cannot provide that, why bother to post them at all to a community of skeptics?

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#1102 May 11, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Your list of tests seems less than exhaustive.
If the same standard were applied to scientific theory, few would have ever gained traction.
I'll give you a test:
What is the minimal evidence necessary to convert you to a theist?
Clearly, the list you provided is not it, unless you're stupid.
Would this test suffice:
A discovery of signature signs of intelligence in the DNA molecule.
Anthony Flew thought this evidence was significant. In fact it turned a lifelong atheist of revered intellect into a theist:
"The evidential situation of natural (as opposed to revealed) theology has been transformed in the more than fifty years since Watson and Crick won the Nobel Prize for their discovery of the double helix structure of DNA. It has become inordinately difficult even to begin to think about constructing a naturalistic theory of the evolution of that first reproducing organism".
-Anthony Flew, August 2004
As I mentioned, Flew's intellect as an atheist was revered, much more so than yours.
Immoral lying creationist who believes that jesus rode on the backs of dinosaurs.

Not to be trusted.

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#1103 May 11, 2013
You don't need to be a scientist to know that bucks beliefs are stupid and wrong.

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#1104 May 11, 2013
[QUOTE who="KJV
"]<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Khatru:
"Atheists believe there are no gods."
Bingo!!
A positive belief!!
As in Religion!
A positive assertion in a belief put the burden of proof on "you" that there is no gods!
This is a perfect example of an Atheist that DOES believe there is no God.
Not an atheist that has an absence of all beliefs.
Merriam-Webster
athe·ist\ˈā-thē-ist\
noun
: one who believes that there is no deity
Point proven!
To easy.
LOL[/QUOTE]

If you choose to hallucinate a god AND talk about it, it is your responsibility to PROVE.

If you cannot. You are LiAR.

It's very simple, but most theists have low intelligence and show cowardice when it comes t being honest and truthful.
KJV

United States

#1105 May 11, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>Which god?
You don't know?

Here is a English lesson for you then.

If the word God is capitalized then it is referring to the God of the Bible.

And here are those RULES:

http://www.libraryonline.com/default.asp...

"Capitalization Rules
There are many rules to capitalization. Most people know the basics of capitalization such as capitalizing the first letter of the first word at the beginning of a new sentence, but when is capitalization appropriate in other situations? Outlined below is a comprehensive guide providing rules and examples to proper capitalization.

Holy Bible

- Names for the Bible Capitalize all names for the Bible, for parts and versions of the Bible and all names of other sacred books.
Examples:
Bible -Scriptures -Word of God -Holy Bible -Old Testament -New Testament
-Gospels -Ten Commandments -Lord’s Prayer -Gospels -Gospel of Luke
-King James Version
- Creeds and Confessions Capitalize all names of creeds and confessions of faith and general Biblical terms.

Examples:
-Lord Supper - the Apostles Creed
-the Westminster Catechism -Nicene Creed

- Deity - Capitalize all names for Deity
Examples:
-Father -Almighty -God -Lord -Holy Spirit -Son of Man
-Messiah - Lord of Hosts -Redeemer -Savior - Holy Trinity

"Indeed, it would be rather juvenile to misspell God simply in order to insult theists. If such an atheist had so little respect for another person, why even waste the time writing to them in the first place, much less deliberately trying to hurt them at the same time? While that may actually be the case with some atheists who write the word 'god' with a lowercase 'g,' "

http://atheism.about.com/od/doesgodexist/a/ca...

"The use of capitalization, as for a proper noun, has persisted to disambiguate the concept of a singular God, specifically the Christian God, from pagan deities for which lower case god has continued to be applied, mirroring the use of Latin deus. Pronouns referring to God are also often capitalized and are traditionally in the masculine gender, i.e. "He", "Him", "His" etc. However, some people have referred to God in feminine terms, such as "She" and "Her". "

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_ (word)

"god- Lowercase this when used as a prefix. Examples: godchild, goddaughter, godfather, godlike, godliness, godmother, godsend, godson, godspeed. Do not hyphenate
gods and goddesses

Capitalize God and similar names of the deity of a monotheistic religion: Allah, God, God the Father, Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit, Jehovah, Jesus Christ, the Redeemer, the Son of God, the Son of Man, Yahweh.

http://www.gcsu.edu/communications/g.htm

Purdue OWLWriting LabOWL
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OWL Family of Sites > OWL > General Writing > Mechanics > Capital Letters

"The names of God, specific deities, religious figures, and holy books"

http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/59...

Capitalization

Sacred Writings/God/Religions:

ex.: Bible, Qur'an, Book of Job (not underlined)

God, Allah. The rules about pronouns referring to the deity vary; some reference works state that "He" or"His" or "Thee" are capitalized whenever "God" is capitalized. Some writers always put the pronouns in lower case. Check with your professors about their requirements.

Proper names of gods are capitalized: Krishna, Hera, Odin.

http://writing2.richmond.edu/writing/wweb/cap...

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