susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#856 May 8, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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Oh, so THESE are the last days.
You're sure about that?
All those other people over the centuries who swore we were in the last days were wrong - but you're right?
Riiiiiight
I know we're living in the last days because the God of Israel is here and the OT is being fulfilled. But we'll all find out soon enough. Everything that is happening in the middle east is prophecied it the OT, and the coming of the Messiah is imminent. Read Isaiah 19, it's about Egypt.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#857 May 8, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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An "all-powerful" creator could give you free will in any circumstance.
Or he would not be "all powerful".
Yet if he is "all-knowing" then it is not possible in any way whatsoever to surprise him. He already knows the outcome of each and every one of your decisions before you were even born. Thus "free-will" is an illusion. As pointed out, one of the numerous paradoxes of theism. So best to simply say "I have faith" and leave it at that, rather than have the details of your baseless theological opinions brought down to Earth and examined where they get eviscerated by their own axioms.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#858 May 8, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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We all know religion's right, you're just too afraid to admit it.
Of course it's right. And that religion is Noodly.

RAMEN!
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#859 May 8, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>God knows what's in the future but people don't and that doesn't negate our free will.
This sentence contradicts itself.
susanblange wrote:
We live in the present, not the future and we are all the authors of our own fate.
Not if this God thing of yours exists.
susanblange wrote:
God can change the future by changing the circumstances of the present which will affect the future.
Past, present, future, it's all the same to him.(shrug)
susanblange wrote:
It is also possible to change Gods mind.
So many fundies believe. That's why they invented prayer. And allegedly God's hippy son was able to change it too by telling him to chill out and stop being a complete d ck like he was in the old days while J came down saying "Peace, man!". But then God's due to change his mind and and become a total ahole again later.
susanblange wrote:
Bottom line is, we all determine our own destiny.
Bottom line, not if this God of yours exists. In fact even God can't even do that. As apparently it's already set in stone because of this old book that says donkeys and lizards talk.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#860 May 8, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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As long as education doesn't ban the Bible, the Bible is as healthy as fruit and vegetables.
Education doesn't ban the Bible. The Bible is just banned from education.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#861 May 8, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
This sentence contradicts itself.
<quoted text>
Not if this God thing of yours exists.
<quoted text>
Past, present, future, it's all the same to him.(shrug)
<quoted text>
So many fundies believe. That's why they invented prayer. And allegedly God's hippy son was able to change it too by telling him to chill out and stop being a complete d ck like he was in the old days while J came down saying "Peace, man!". But then God's due to change his mind and and become a total ahole again later.
<quoted text>
Bottom line, not if this God of yours exists. In fact even God can't even do that. As apparently it's already set in stone because of this old book that says donkeys and lizards talk.
The God of Israel is also called "Prince of Peace" but this does not refer to Jesus. Jesus admits he's brought war and division. If there was no Jesus, Islamic doctrine wouldn't have even materialized in the same form it is now. The Quran is based at least in part on the supposed validity of the new testament. I also do not believe the serpent spoke, it was Adam. Balaams' donkey also didn't literally speak, but it did communicate. "The simple believe every word..."

Since: Apr 09

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#862 May 8, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I know we're living in the last days because the God of Israel is here and the OT is being fulfilled. But we'll all find out soon enough. Everything that is happening in the middle east is prophecied it the OT, and the coming of the Messiah is imminent. Read Isaiah 19, it's about Egypt.
...and why were all of those others over the centuries wrong? Come on...you can do it...

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#863 May 8, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I know we're living in the last days because the God of Israel is here and the OT is being fulfilled. But we'll all find out soon enough. Everything that is happening in the middle east is prophecied it the OT, and the coming of the Messiah is imminent. Read Isaiah 19, it's about Egypt.
This I agree with... I was ready to go yesterday...:)
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#864 May 8, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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...and why were all of those others over the centuries wrong? Come on...you can do it...
They were wrong because what they said did not come to pass. A person who claims to speak for God is known when what they say happens. The words of the OT prophets are still being verified today. By this same criteria, Jesus was proven to be a false prophet.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#865 May 8, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The new testament is full of errors, not the old. It's important to separate the two, they are about different gods. Jesus did not fulfill anything in the OT, and he is in no way the God of Israel. He is the modern day idol of Israel and is identified as such in the OT.
Theists are dishonest by their very nature. People like yourself know that you have no proof of god, yet here you are immorally lying to us and telling us that your cult is correct.

And you wonder why we don't drop all our evidence to chase after your hallucination.

Theism is a voluntary disease that collects the stupid of society.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#866 May 8, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The God of Israel is also called "Prince of Peace" but this does not refer to Jesus. Jesus admits he's brought war and division. If there was no Jesus, Islamic doctrine wouldn't have even materialized in the same form it is now. The Quran is based at least in part on the supposed validity of the new testament. I also do not believe the serpent spoke, it was Adam. Balaams' donkey also didn't literally speak, but it did communicate. "The simple believe every word..."
You talk about god, but you have no evidence. This is your mental illness, not the illness of atheists.

Keep your disease to yourself or see a doctor about it.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#867 May 8, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>They were wrong because what they said did not come to pass. A person who claims to speak for God is known when what they say happens. The words of the OT prophets are still being verified today. By this same criteria, Jesus was proven to be a false prophet.
God isn't real yet here you are speaking for it.

Shame on you liars of decent honest society.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#868 May 8, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, so THESE are the last days.
You're sure about that?
All those other people over the centuries who swore we were in the last days were wrong - but you're right?
Riiiiiight
When you've sold believers on eternity, its very important to lie to them about the end of the earth.

Otherwise why would they fear anything at all?

Humans are pretty smart when it comes to inventing cults / religions.

The lies have been crafted carefully over the years.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#869 May 8, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Really? Based on science?
Leonard Mlodinow, quantum physicist and atheist,who recently co-authored a book with Stephen Hawking:
"As a scientist, I can tell you, science cannot tell you either way whether there is a god or not a god".
If you have answered the question, with science, of whether there is a god, you should contact Dr. Mlodinow and inform him that he needs to get up to date.
You moron.
I agree with Mlodonow. The arguments for and against the existence of the various gods, angels, demons, and demigods that people believe in against all reason lie outside of the realm of science, more the stuff of history, philosophy and the like. That's why I read with interest, but rarely weigh in on the discussions that focus on science that are often beyond the level at which I have anything useful to contribute.

We all have our strengths and weaknesses. Mine seems to be an ability to spot logical flaws and to evaluate statistical stuff. I'm not sure what yours is--perhaps to force more knowledgeable people to write in greater detail and with more precision than they would without the need to counter your usually flawed but often complex assertions. Even if I rarely agree with you, I have to say that your relentlessness definitely bring out the best in your adversaries.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#870 May 8, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Education doesn't ban the Bible. The Bible is just banned from education.
Not entirely. It's still an important part of world literature, and the KJV is an important work of English Lit., and comparative religion classes need to look at scriptures from all of the major faiths.
KJV

United States

#871 May 8, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>Not entirely. It's still an important part of world literature, and the KJV is an important work of English Lit., and comparative religion classes need to look at scriptures from all of the major faiths.
Why thank you!

;)

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#872 May 8, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Theists are dishonest by their very nature. People like yourself know that you have no proof of god, yet here you are immorally lying to us and telling us that your cult is correct.
And you wonder why we don't drop all our evidence to chase after your hallucination.
Theism is a voluntary disease that collects the stupid of society.
I have to disagree. All of the theists I know personally are quite honest and, as long as religion is avoided, quite normal and easy to deal with. Theism isn't a disease. It's just an incorrect belief, albeit a pervasive one, but one that doesn't affect daily life all that much. Most people aren't as religious as all that. They believe in a half-hearted way (unless one foolishly challenges them on it), but it doesn't affect they way they navigate life.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#873 May 8, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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As the poster says to Christians:
Your god was nailed to a cross. Thor carries a hammer. Think about it.
Oh, yes-- Thor and his Manly-Man Hammer.

I bet Thor would be okay with bacon, too.

I mean, the fact that Bible-God is NOT okay with bacon, just puts him in the "fussy eater" camp...

... not a god worthy of admiration, let alone worship..!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#874 May 8, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
Trees caused pollution Ronald Reagan was the first time this nation became a debtor nation.
... yeah... we are STILL suffering from the effects of that fiasco...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#875 May 8, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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Dummy conservatives want us to go back to the era before the progressive era(before all those crazy regulations) where people could expect rats in their food or children had to work in place of school.
Regulations for safety-no
Regulations for sex and marriage-yes.
Yep.

If the Conservatards had their way? Children could be enslaved just like in the "good old days"...

... make that POOR children.

Rich children get GUNS to play with and to shoot each other with...

....!!

... meh.

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