Is the bible a fairy tale?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#716 May 6, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Yes.
It's just that any insult or rudeness seems shocking when it's from you. It's uncommon and doesn't seem characteristic, if you don't mind the comment. And we non-believers seem to be getting a bit of a reputation for bad manners and disrespectful behavior.'Bad-mouthed atheist' seems to be becoming a stereotype and we could probably do without it here. JMHO.(Not that I'm guiltless, I just think we should blame you for everything :-)
Back in 2006? I took especial pains to write in such a way, that I was not insulting, and made it clear when I was expressing my opinion. I was careful to avoid absolute language too.

It was a complete waste of effort-- nobody appreciated my efforts to be careful, or humble, or to avoid hyperbole...

... and the god-robots would ignore my qualifying language, and zero in on my qualifying adjectives as me being uncertain or weak or not even having a valid point to make.

In short? They didn't get it, and those who were on my side, didn't care one way or the other, either.

There was one person-- who was a thoughtful theist, who did express appreciation. But she was an exceptional poster, and what was worse, she did not return the consideration--she frequently used absolute language against non-theists... so...

... I gave up being nice. There did not seem to be a point; my target audience mistook me being nice, as me being unsure and weak--a target (in other words).

And the formerly thoughtful theist turned on me like a rabid wolf, once when I made a thoughtful (but critical) observation of her religion--even though I took care to be polite.

So much for being nice, or being thoughtful.

It got me zip.

Oh well. The absolutist-language is much easier to write anyhow, as is the sarcastic tone I most often employ.

I find I prefer the sarcasm anyhow-- sarcasm is one of the things that helped ME to flush religious indoctrination after all....

... THANKS, Monty Python's Flying Circus! You have helped make my current world-view what it is today.

:D

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#717 May 6, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Yes.
It's just that any insult or rudeness seems shocking when it's from you. It's uncommon and doesn't seem characteristic, if you don't mind the comment. And we non-believers seem to be getting a bit of a reputation for bad manners and disrespectful behavior.'Bad-mouthed atheist' seems to be becoming a stereotype and we could probably do without it here. JMHO.(Not that I'm guiltless, I just think we should blame you for everything :-)
Oh... one more thing:

ALBATROSS!!!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#718 May 6, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Yes.
It's just that any insult or rudeness seems shocking when it's from you. It's uncommon and doesn't seem characteristic, if you don't mind the comment. And we non-believers seem to be getting a bit of a reputation for bad manners and disrespectful behavior.'Bad-mouthed atheist' seems to be becoming a stereotype and we could probably do without it here. JMHO.(Not that I'm guiltless, I just think we should blame you for everything :-)
Oh... one more thing:

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KJV

United States

#719 May 6, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>Who knows?
But I do know the story in the Buy-bull is crap.
I know plants can't grow without the sun.
I know the earth isn't flat.
I know men and women have different DNA.

Often fundies use the "god of the gaps" fallacy.
Basically, that's saying that since we don't have a full scientific explanation of something, then "God must have done it!".
Buybull is that a book on evolution?

"Basically, that's saying that since we don't have a full scientific explanation of something, then "God must have done it"

Please explain how a total absent of energy, matter, space & time , the complete absents of ANYTHING could account for the Big Bang?

Just maybe God did do it.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#720 May 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
" I DID set out to discover the FACTS of our reality, our Universe. "
Ok how did a total complete absents of anything explode and create everything?
Quantum Mechanics provides the explanation. It also proves that an omniscient god is IMPOSSIBLE in a Quantum Mechanical universe-- ours.

QM has long since been proven fact-- the evidence is overwhelming, and greater than most other sciences.

Our Universe was a Quantum Mechanics event-- uncaused in other words.

However, since you are obviously too much of a brain-damaged fool? You won't understand this at all.

Sad-- really-- you are a sad case of bankrupt mythology.

I pity you in your near-total ignorance.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#721 May 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
Just maybe God did do it.
Impossible. Your god? Your >>omniscient<< deity?

Cannot possibly exist-- to be omniscient would be to collapse the entire universe-- the entire quantum-mechanical universe, due to the omniscient effect of seeing everything.

So in OUR universe--our quantum-mechanical universe?

An omniscient god simply cannot exist--ever--not even "outside" it-- the very existence of such a being would collapse the entire universe, ending it in an instant.

So your god, proven to 100%, is myth.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#722 May 6, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Back in 2006? I took especial pains to write in such a way, that I was not insulting, and made it clear when I was expressing my opinion. I was careful to avoid absolute language too.
It was a complete waste of effort-- nobody appreciated my efforts to be careful, or humble, or to avoid hyperbole...
... and the god-robots would ignore my qualifying language, and zero in on my qualifying adjectives as me being uncertain or weak or not even having a valid point to make.
In short? They didn't get it, and those who were on my side, didn't care one way or the other, either.
There was one person-- who was a thoughtful theist, who did express appreciation. But she was an exceptional poster, and what was worse, she did not return the consideration--she frequently used absolute language against non-theists... so...
... I gave up being nice. There did not seem to be a point; my target audience mistook me being nice, as me being unsure and weak--a target (in other words).
And the formerly thoughtful theist turned on me like a rabid wolf, once when I made a thoughtful (but critical) observation of her religion--even though I took care to be polite.
So much for being nice, or being thoughtful.
It got me zip.
Oh well. The absolutist-language is much easier to write anyhow, as is the sarcastic tone I most often employ.
I find I prefer the sarcasm anyhow-- sarcasm is one of the things that helped ME to flush religious indoctrination after all....
... THANKS, Monty Python's Flying Circus! You have helped make my current world-view what it is today.
:D
Look! Just behave yourself - don't make me come over there!!
(Thanks Bob. I like the Simpsons and US sitcoms. Very insightful :-)
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Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#723 May 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Buybull is that a book on evolution?
No, say it out loud...
KJV wrote:
"Basically, that's saying that since we don't have a full scientific explanation of something, then "God must have done it"
Please explain how a total absent of energy, matter, space & time , the complete absents of ANYTHING could account for the Big Bang?
Just maybe God did do it.
I can't. I have no idea how any of that happened.

BUT I do know the story in the Genesis is a bunch of crap.
I know there can't be day and night without the sun.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#724 May 6, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Yes.
It's just that any insult or rudeness seems shocking when it's from you. It's uncommon and doesn't seem characteristic, if you don't mind the comment. And we non-believers seem to be getting a bit of a reputation for bad manners and disrespectful behavior.'Bad-mouthed atheist' seems to be becoming a stereotype and we could probably do without it here. JMHO.(Not that I'm guiltless, I just think we should blame you for everything :-)
Od, that.

We have our share of acerbic writers, to be sure, but we have writes like polymath257 and (when she does come around) Hidingfromyou, along with a few others, whose input from the academic corner of the net is always informative and refreshing. I'm probably the most polite of the less educated section of the tag-team, but statistics and cold logic can knock a phony out of the ring almost as fast as a lesson in math, physics, or biology can. It takes a village.

Or two villages. Unlike theirs, though, we seem to be missing a village idiot, just as they seem to be short on scholars. I am so glad to be here, not there.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#725 May 6, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Look! Just behave yourself - don't make me come over there!!
(Thanks Bob. I like the Simpsons and US sitcoms. Very insightful :-)
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/be...
I liked your brainy-quotes page.

A most enjoyable read, thank you.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#726 May 6, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>Od, that.
We have our share of acerbic writers, to be sure, but we have writes like polymath257 and (when she does come around) Hidingfromyou, along with a few others, whose input from the academic corner of the net is always informative and refreshing. I'm probably the most polite of the less educated section of the tag-team, but statistics and cold logic can knock a phony out of the ring almost as fast as a lesson in math, physics, or biology can. It takes a village.

Or two villages. Unlike theirs, though, we seem to be missing a village idiot, just as they seem to be short on scholars. I am so glad to be here, not there.
Somewhere in Texas, there is a village who has got their village idiot back...

... to sighs of relief all across the land ...

...(grin)
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#727 May 6, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
No, say it out loud...
<quoted text>
I can't. I have no idea how any of that happened.
BUT I do know the story in the Genesis is a bunch of crap.
I know there can't be day and night without the sun.
The first thing God created was light, on the first day. God called the light day and the darkness he called night. This was the light brought by the holy Spirit and is akin to the skin of Moses face shining after his encounter with God.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#728 May 6, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Impossible. Your god? Your >>omniscient<< deity?
Cannot possibly exist-- to be omniscient would be to collapse the entire universe-- the entire quantum-mechanical universe, due to the omniscient effect of seeing everything.
So in OUR universe--our quantum-mechanical universe?
An omniscient god simply cannot exist--ever--not even "outside" it-- the very existence of such a being would collapse the entire universe, ending it in an instant.
So your god, proven to 100%, is myth.
Why would the existence of God collapse the universe? The universe is an astral projection of the mind and imagination of God which is ever expanding and limitless. The absence of God would cause the universe to literally collapse. Energy is ubiquitous, that is one of Gods attributes. Without Energy, there would be nothing.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#729 May 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Buybull is that a book on evolution?
"Basically, that's saying that since we don't have a full scientific explanation of something, then "God must have done it"
Please explain how a total absent of energy, matter, space & time , the complete absents of ANYTHING could account for the Big Bang?
Just maybe God did do it.
The big bang was the revelation, "I think, therefore I am" That is Gods name forever and the first name given to Moses from God to identify an attribute of God. That translated into the first commandment, "You shall have no other gods before me".
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#730 May 6, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
God did not create himself. He aways was and aways will be.
God in a way, did create herself. She gave herself a soul (body) which she did not have until she was born on this earth. The soul is a temporary abode of the Spirit. Prior to her incarnation, God was a Spirit and she will return to spirit form upon the death of her soul. All angels are spirits.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#731 May 6, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
She's just inconsistent enough to make me suspect she's only pretending to be this much of an idiot.
I could be wrong-- it is possible that she has suffered some sort of brain damage or exposure to toxic chemicals at some point.
I hope not-- really-- that much brain damage would be tragic.
I really hate to see people suffer from brain damage-- that was one of the first things, way-back when, that made me doubt the whole idea of a "loving god".... what sort of ugly deity would allow a baby to be born with only a partial brain?
... meh.
I am not brain damaged and have a near genius IQ. The problem is I was raised by Satan (the reincarnation of Adam) and his wicked witch of a wife and that drove me insane. I was abused, neglected and tortured as a child and the "crucifixion" is past. It happened on 10/22 (Psalm 22) 1969 (Psalm 69). It says in Psalm 22:30 "...it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation" A generation is 40 years so VWD Day could come at any time now. My psychiatrist is Jewish, he believes in me and he is my savior, he is a child psychiatrist, is Elijah and he knows it. I am "travailing in birth" and "crying in the wilderness". The "Antichrist" is supposed to have a deadly head wound that is healed by the "false prophet". I am the promised one and the savior of the world.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#732 May 6, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The first thing God created was light, on the first day. God called the light day and the darkness he called night. This was the light brought by the holy Spirit and is akin to the skin of Moses face shining after his encounter with God.
BS.
The light was day, and the dark was night.
The story in Genesis was made up by ignorant Bronze Age goat herders who didn't know the earth is a sphere that rotates. And that the rotation causes day and night. They didn't know plants need the sun to grow. Their ignorance can be excused. What about yours?

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#733 May 6, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I am not brain damaged and have a near genius IQ. The problem is I was raised by Satan (the reincarnation of Adam) and his wicked witch of a wife and that drove me insane. I was abused, neglected and tortured as a child and the "crucifixion" is past. It happened on 10/22 (Psalm 22) 1969 (Psalm 69). It says in Psalm 22:30 "...it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation" A generation is 40 years so VWD Day could come at any time now. My psychiatrist is Jewish, he believes in me and he is my savior, he is a child psychiatrist, is Elijah and he knows it. I am "travailing in birth" and "crying in the wilderness". The "Antichrist" is supposed to have a deadly head wound that is healed by the "false prophet". I am the promised one and the savior of the world.
Muy loco.

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#734 May 6, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I sincerely believe the word of God, and what I write but I am not delusional. I am a nut (Psalm 38:7) but haven't bee hospitalized since January 1986. I know the truth is hard to swallow and I'm actually very lucid. The belief in God in and of itself is crazy.
You are just a little misinformed my lil' troll...:)
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#735 May 6, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
BS.
The light was day, and the dark was night.
The story in Genesis was made up by ignorant Bronze Age goat herders who didn't know the earth is a sphere that rotates. And that the rotation causes day and night. They didn't know plants need the sun to grow. Their ignorance can be excused. What about yours?
Plants need light to grow. The scripture says that God "hangs the earth upon nothing" and "it is he who sits upon the circle of the earth". These were written by God long before Columbus. You are the one who is ignorant Rose.

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