susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#42 Apr 26, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
I heard many atheists say, the Bible is a fairy tale, it's a 2000year old fairy designed by some man who wanted to free his imagination, and write stories.
But is the Bible really a fairy tale. A fairy tale is a book written for small children, so why is it banned in 53countries of the world. Who bans a fairy tale story.
When the Messiah comes and literally fulfills that "fairy tale" we'll all know just how real it is. You can say the NT is a fairy tale, it's a book of lies, delusions and myth. It's important to separate the Old Testament from the new.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#43 Apr 26, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct, so if you can't disprove any of these Gods, then that means that's only one is real, but that disproves atheism, doesn't it.
No.

But I see there is little point in trying to explain anything to you when you come up with doozy's like this:

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#44 Apr 26, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct, so if you can't disprove any of these Gods, then that means that's only one is real, but that disproves atheism, doesn't it.
??? Wow you are off the rails.

If you have the same lack of proof for all teh gods why would you assume that only one is real and that by sheer coincidence it happens to be yours

“Reason's Greetings!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#45 Apr 26, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct, so if you can't disprove any of these Gods, then that means that's only one is real, but that disproves atheism, doesn't it.
Atheism is nothing more than a lack of belief. How would You go about disproving that?
think about it

Fayetteville, PA

#46 Apr 26, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
??? Wow you are off the rails.
If you have the same lack of proof for all teh gods why would you assume that only one is real and that by sheer coincidence it happens to be yours
So this is where you are hiding out? Too afraid to show your nutty name on Chambersburg,Pa. Forum? Look who's talking about the lack of proof! Guess what everyone? This nut was on the Chambersburg,Pa forum thread about a gun rally in Chambersburg square. He'd been there for several weeks, maybe a month or two.

He has become the laughing stock. First he said he talks to James Madison, he dislikes mentally retarded people. Now get ready for these...he accused a female poster of pro rape, and then he accused a male poster of having him on film having sex with children. He was demanded to present proof..he never did and never could, because none of it happened.
He has run with his tail between his legs on the Chambersburg, Pa forum. Hasn't been there all day. Because he has been exposed as a nut. One more thing..has he told you he makes movies and TV shows? He's a piece of work.. a real nut job!
The guy lives on a funny farm somewhere...so beware.....

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#47 Apr 26, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all, something can't be "a fact based on current evidence". It's either a fact or it isn't.
God is not real is a fact. All facts are based on current evidence.

As the evidence updates, so do the facts. I haven't contradicted you.

And you haven't highlighted any irrational claims I made.
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Facts don't change with evidence.
Yes they do. If the evidence is more accurate and more reliable, then the fact is updated according to the latest evidence.

This is fact.

Just like Evolution wasn't a fact UNTIL it was proven. And it still remains a fact today.
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
CONCLUSIONS change with evidence.
And conclusions are based on facts, which are based on evidence.
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Second, there is no such thing as negative proof. Negative proof is a contradiction.
Wrong. Proof negative does exist.

If a person claims that god is real, we can easily disprove it by using evidence and logic.

All these gods that are claimed real have real world properties and there is proof negative that these properties cannot co-exist in a "god".

As I said, god is not real, is a fact. Whether you like it or not.
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Third, you ARE making a claim. You are making several unsupported claims about facts and proof.
Like I said before, if you think I am making a claim, why can't you succinctly state it??

You fail.
<quoted text>
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
I could give a crap about the runs on some wordpress blog. I'm talking about science.
If you're talking about science you would know that scientific facts are ultimately based upon observational and experimentational evidence, NOT on conclusions are you rather ignorantly state.
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
You are making scientific claims, you need to adhere to the rules of science.
Once again, if you think I am making a claim, it is up to you to state it clearly.

The fact is god isn't real.

YOU claim that "god is possible" yet provide precisely ZERO EVIDENCE for YOUR claim.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#48 Apr 26, 2013
think about it wrote:
<quoted text>So this is where you are hiding out? Too afraid to show your nutty name on Chambersburg,Pa. Forum? Look who's talking about the lack of proof! Guess what everyone? This nut was on the Chambersburg,Pa forum thread about a gun rally in Chambersburg square. He'd been there for several weeks, maybe a month or two.
He has become the laughing stock. First he said he talks to James Madison, he dislikes mentally retarded people. Now get ready for these...he accused a female poster of pro rape, and then he accused a male poster of having him on film having sex with children. He was demanded to present proof..he never did and never could, because none of it happened.
He has run with his tail between his legs on the Chambersburg, Pa forum. Hasn't been there all day. Because he has been exposed as a nut. One more thing..has he told you he makes movies and TV shows? He's a piece of work.. a real nut job!
The guy lives on a funny farm somewhere...so beware.....
wow i am so important to you
you must have no life at all

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#49 Apr 26, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
Just like Evolution wasn't a fact UNTIL it was proven. And it still remains a fact today.
your understanding of reality is weak
think about it

Fayetteville, PA

#50 Apr 26, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
wow i am so important to you
you must have no life at all
Nope not at all. Just warning other posters what a nut case you are. Also a coward. You accuse other posters of things you made up, yet you will not and cannot prove what you accused them of. Why? Because you lie and deceive.
You have become a big joke on the Chambersburg forum, that's probably why you are avoiding coming back. Just a scared little coward lunatic!

What a loser! Don't get too carried away with the lies and wild accusations because the people in the white lab coats will take your computer privedges away.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#51 Apr 26, 2013
think about it wrote:
<quoted text>Nope not at all. Just warning other posters what a nut case you are. Also a coward. You accuse other posters of things you made up, yet you will not and cannot prove what you accused them of. Why? Because you lie and deceive.
You have become a big joke on the Chambersburg forum, that's probably why you are avoiding coming back. Just a scared little coward lunatic!
What a loser! Don't get too carried away with the lies and wild accusations because the people in the white lab coats will take your computer privedges away.
You mean the thread where all the guys arguing against him said it's safer for everybody if they have nukes and even more automatic weapons? Perhaps it's not actually a case of him deceiving people and rather that, like the fundies on here, you guys simply don't understand the logical consequences of your own arguments.

Since: Sep 07

Valley Village, CA

#52 Apr 26, 2013
think about it wrote:
<quoted text>Nope not at all. Just warning other posters what a nut case you are. Also a coward. You accuse other posters of things you made up, yet you will not and cannot prove what you accused them of. Why? Because you lie and deceive.
You've followed me to another forum because I am the most important person in your life.

As for what other posters have said, I've just given back what they've put out there.

Funny how you don't have a problem with posters who literally change the text of people's posts.

Oh, right. Because a Conservative is doing it, it's perfectly okay. However, if someone stands up for the rights of individuals, well they are the devil.

You're a joke.

Also, an unregistered account? And you call me a coward? Grow up, Timmy. If you aren't willing to register, nothing you say matters. You're just a sock puppet.
think about it

Fayetteville, PA

#53 Apr 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean the thread where all the guys arguing against him said it's safer for everybody if they have nukes and even more automatic weapons? Perhaps it's not actually a case of him deceiving people and rather that, like the fundies on here, you guys simply don't understand the logical consequences of your own arguments.
You don't even live in America so I really don't take you serious. I suggest you worry about your decaying UK.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#54 Apr 26, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
God is not real is a fact. All facts are based on current evidence.
As the evidence updates, so do the facts. I haven't contradicted you.
And you haven't highlighted any irrational claims I made.
<quoted text>
Yes they do. If the evidence is more accurate and more reliable, then the fact is updated according to the latest evidence.
This is fact.
Just like Evolution wasn't a fact UNTIL it was proven. And it still remains a fact today.
<quoted text>
And conclusions are based on facts, which are based on evidence.
<quoted text>
Wrong. Proof negative does exist.
If a person claims that god is real, we can easily disprove it by using evidence and logic.
All these gods that are claimed real have real world properties and there is proof negative that these properties cannot co-exist in a "god".
As I said, god is not real, is a fact. Whether you like it or not.
Interesting. I'm unaware of any Gods having any testable real world properties.
-Skeptic- wrote:
Like I said before, if you think I am making a claim, why can't you succinctly state it??
You fail.
On the contrary, check your first sentence.
-Skeptic- wrote:
If you're talking about science you would know that scientific facts are ultimately based upon observational and experimentational evidence, NOT on conclusions are you rather ignorantly state.
<quoted text>
Once again, if you think I am making a claim, it is up to you to state it clearly.
The fact is god isn't real.
YOU claim that "god is possible" yet provide precisely ZERO EVIDENCE for YOUR claim.
Again, this has already been explained to you time and time again. You have ignored subsequent posts in favour of repeating your already debunked argument. In science ALL things are considered possible until they are disproved by experiment. Therefore I would like to know the details of the scientific experiment you performed that falsified the existence of an intelligent being responsible for creating the universe. Until then your lack of description is evidence that such a thing is NOT "impossible" as you claim. Therefore the idea of a God remains an untested, untestable, unverifiable, non-scientific claim. You keep arguing that it is somehow scientific by being amenable to the scientific method. So far you've been unable to show how.
think about it

Fayetteville, PA

#55 Apr 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean the thread where all the guys arguing against him said it's safer for everybody if they have nukes and even more automatic weapons? Perhaps it's not actually a case of him deceiving people and rather that, like the fundies on here, you guys simply don't understand the logical consequences of your own arguments.
You conventiently forgot to mention the wild accusation nuggin the nut made. As time went on he became more and more unhinged. Funny you didn't mention that either. But like I said..what do you know, you live in the UK, the place that is falling apart. Maybe if you would mind your own affairs and get out of Northern Ireland and the Malvinas Islands or whatever other countries you have stolen , the UK economy might not be in the gutters.
think about it

Fayetteville, PA

#56 Apr 26, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
You've followed me to another forum because I am the most important person in your life.
As for what other posters have said, I've just given back what they've put out there.
Funny how you don't have a problem with posters who literally change the text of people's posts.
Oh, right. Because a Conservative is doing it, it's perfectly okay. However, if someone stands up for the rights of individuals, well they are the devil.
You're a joke.
Also, an unregistered account? And you call me a coward? Grow up, Timmy. If you aren't willing to register, nothing you say matters. You're just a sock puppet.
What's important to me is ethics and honesty. That's why I am here, because you are not honest and you are unethical

I doubt that you will last long here. In time your deranged behavior will come out and everyone will see you for what you are and off you'll go to another forum. All I am doing is giving everyone a heads up and speeding the process of you being outed.

Oh by the way, try not to fault someone's misspelled words since you made a huge error in manner/manor. Yep folks, that was something else she/he did, made fun of people for not spelling correctly. Then the loon spells manner wrong. So keep that in mind when she/ he criticizes your spelling.

And be prepared for his/her zinger stories of making movies and being around all the stars. He/she is a piece of work so have a good laugh while he/she is here.

You say you stand up for the rights of individuals yet you make fun of mentally retarded people. Just another one of your lies.

So off I go.

You have been warned so as I said, have a laugh with this nut, because s/he comes up with some real winners! One of the zingers is when he talks to James Madison, that's why nuggin knows so much about the Constitution....Madison told him..

Have fun and a laugh on this loon.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#57 Apr 26, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
I heard many atheists say, the Bible is a fairy tale, it's a 2000year old fairy designed by some man who wanted to free his imagination, and write stories.
But is the Bible really a fairy tale. A fairy tale is a book written for small children, so why is it banned in 53countries of the world. Who bans a fairy tale story.
Lots of fairy tale stories are banned over parts of the world.

So what?

Fiction is fiction. Fiction gets banned all the time.

Your "argument" is bogus.

The bible >>is<< a fairy tale for adults...

.... really, really gullible adults.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#58 Apr 26, 2013
Graham wrote:
<quoted text>
The evil is the atheists and the Good is the Christians. I think I can make a movie out of this. The Good vs Evil
Really?

Two words: Spanish Inquisition.

That pretty much wipes out your ... "argument".

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#59 Apr 26, 2013
CunningLinguist wrote:
The definition as follows...
A fanciful tale of legendary deeds and creatures, usually intended for children.
A fictitious, highly fanciful story or explanation.
Yes-- that describes your ugly bible perfectly.

And adults who believe in it? Are acting like...

... children.

Sad.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#60 Apr 26, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
A fairy tale is for children, not something to believe, how stupid are you.
Yes it is-- the bible is a fairy tale.

And yet... YOU worship it like it was a god or something.

What does that say about...

....you?

Hmmm?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#61 Apr 26, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
Is the bible a fairy tale?
No, it is a horror story that Steven King would be proud of.
Oh, be nice: King is actually pretty good at writing...

.... he's better than the silly bible...

:)

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