Is the bible a fairy tale?
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#591 May 4, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> Oh good, now you offend all Christians, and I wish you a plague of them criticizing you, one of the best things a Christian could do.
Your own God is a rapist, by the Christian calendar and doctrines. It is your God that is evil, not the fictional
Jesus, who is probably just a composite of wanna-be messiahs, wandering preachers, and words of various writers of the NT - some half-way decent, some silly - even in the same passages, such as Matthew. But Jehovah of OT is a nasty old devil.
I wouldn't want to be anywhere near you on VWD Day for fear I'd get singed. God reflects the way people are toward her but we all reach a point where enough is enough. God puts up with it for hundreds of years and has a very long fuse. The scripture says she is slow to anger, patient and longsuffering. But Gods law and judgment will stand and the wicked will burst into flames. God is not a hypocrite, she keeps her own law.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#592 May 4, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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I can easily disprove the Big bang.
No, you can't. Have you ever even taken a science class?
Carchar king wrote:
How can matter and energy create itself, I mean from what I heard explosions destroy, they do not create. How can matter and energy create itself. That defies the laws of cause and effect. Have you ever taken debatable science, to learn how to object, no I suppose not since you believe what ever nonsense science tells you, if science says jump in the fire, you'll do it.
No, doesn't look like you have.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#593 May 4, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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The bible, god revealed himself many times in the bible, that he exists, but yet, people refused to believe in him or ignored him. God's not going to reveal himself every time and you have to learn just because you can't see something, doesn't mean it's not there.
Dodge. Using the Buybull to prove god exists is like using "The Night Before Christmas" to prove Santa is real.
Why would god wait until it's too late to let us know he exists?

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#594 May 4, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>God made her first appearance 29 1/2 years ago and the world has rejected her. "I am forgotten as a dead man out of mind". She ended the cold war and got the Jews out of Russia. Only the Christian god enjoys tormenting people and it says he will send all non believers to hell forever. The purpose of life is life and God wants all of us to go to heaven. The Lord will plead with all flesh up until the end and then she will be executed and it will be too late. Patience is a virtue and God has and will exercise great patience in dealing with humankind and salvation. We are all judged according to our works.
Why doesn't everybody know this, then?
Ether god doesn't care, or is a crappy communicator.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#595 May 4, 2013
KJV wrote:
<quoted text>
Buybull is that a book on evolution?
No, say it out loud. "Buy bull". It sounds like "Bible". And you have to buy a lot of bull to accept the Bible as truth!
Do you believe the earth is flat? The Buybull indicates it is.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#596 May 4, 2013
KJV wrote:
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God will let you find him.
Seek and he shall find.
Try it for real.
But people seek and find different things.
Why doesn't god just let us know he exists?

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#597 May 4, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> A wise person would not want to find an evil God, even if it existed. The Biblical God is an evil God.
You are so right.
I think Richard Dawkins said it best:
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." - See more at: http://quotationsbook.com/quote/45808/#sthash...

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#598 May 4, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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They didn't. If the basic Big Bang thoery is true, then they are both uncaused.
<quoted text>
Actually, this is false, but also irrelevant.
There are ways of making explosions constructive: they provide the directed energy needed to, for example, weld things together:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosion_weldin...
But this is irrelevant because the Big bang was NOT a conventional explosion. In typical explosions, a sudden release of gas expands outward into the space around, causing a density wave. In the Big bang, it was space itself that expands. No pressure wave is generated and the expansion happens *everywhere*, not outward from a fixed position.
<quoted text>
Which do not hold when quantum effects are studied. In fact, it is quite common at the quantum level for matter to come spontaneously into existence and spontaneously disappear. When this happens, we say there is a quantum fluctuation involving virtual particles. This effect has been measured and agrees with quantum theory.
<quoted text>
Have you ever looked enough into the science to know what it actually says as opposed to what popularizations say? Have you ever looked at it enough to know what the *evidence* is and how it is important?
No, of course not.
And have you ever learnt that scientists can make mistakes!

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#599 May 4, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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No, you can't. Have you ever even taken a science class?
<quoted text>
No, doesn't look like you have.
And have you learnt in science class that you can go against theories.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#600 May 4, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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You are so right.
I think Richard Dawkins said it best:
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." - See more at: http://quotationsbook.com/quote/45808/#sthash...
Until you realize his real, well, no surprise from the atheists who believe to know everything, yet can't disprove god, now until I get the proof that disproves God, then I have no worries about you blabbering atheists calling me a creationist moron when you are a disrespectful creature, that doesn't realize, they are being the evil one.

It's like Star Wars, you are Darth Vader, who thinks his the Good guy, but actually is the bad guy.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#601 May 4, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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And have you learnt in science class that you can go against theories.
Yes, you can. But to go argue against theories you need to have evidence. Scientific evidence is sadly lacking in all creationist claims.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#602 May 4, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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And have you ever learnt that scientists can make mistakes!
Of course I have. That's why we have a lot of scientists with different backgrounds making comments, doing experiments, critiquing papers, etc. That is why science progresses over time: it corrects its mistakes when new evidence comes along. And that mistake detection and correction is built into the scientific method. It is why scientific theories have to make specific predictions that can then be tested.

Finally, because every statement is tested and re-tested, the mistakes tend to be at the edge of current investigation or to be a difference in the 5th decimal place in a prediction. The *revolution* from Newtonian physics to general relativity happened because Newton's ideas were off by about 1/90 of a degree over the course of a *century* in the orbit of Mercury.

On the other hand, YOU seem not to have noticed that theologians *never* get anything right and that the Bible gets many things wrong.
Imhotep

Silver Springs, FL

#603 May 4, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>"Of the Rock that begat thee thou art unmindful" "The Lord is my Rock, my strength and my song" "Behold their sitting down and their rising up, I am their music"
http://touch.dailymotion.com/video/xe4g4w_jes...

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#604 May 4, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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And have you learnt in science class that you can go against theories.
Of course you can.*IF* you have evidence to back up your assertions. Any new theory has to at least be able to cover the successes of the old theory *and* give precise predictions that can be tested that differ from the previous theory. Then, when the relevant experiments have been done and the results come out in favor of the new theory, then the old one is replaced.

But, simply saying you don't believe the current theory because you prefer an old one that doesn't fit the evidence is NOT how you successfully 'go against' a current theory.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#605 May 4, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
Ether god doesn't care, or is a crappy communicator.
Nah....Ether god is just asleep. Ether does that to you.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#606 May 4, 2013
KJV wrote:
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You know what's funny?
This is!!
...
"I semi-retired except for collecting and inspecting my rental properties. I live comfortably off my stock dividends, porn sites I own, early retirement from work and rental properties here in the states and in the Philippines. "
OMG. It's getting better all the time!!!
You're retired except for Porn and your wife is still in school!
Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa
Please stop!!!!
Lol BAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAA !!!!
Liberty wrote:
I am a 32 year old multi-racial man with a Johnson bigger than anyone in your family
Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa
Please stop!!!!
Lol BAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAA !!!!
"if I didn't have the strong secular morals"
Please you've got to kidding me!
No more I can't take it!
Baaaaahaaaaaahaaaaa
Please stop!!!!
Lol BAAAAAHAAAAHAAAAA !!!!
I guess KJV lacks enough imagination to even conceive that not everyone works in the fast food industry and/or lives in Mom's basement.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#607 May 4, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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OR you just came blabbering, I didn't disprove the Big bang,
I did prove you failed-- I disproved you at every step.

You ignored my step-by-step proof-- you just went all whiny (as here) instead.
Carchar king wrote:
get over it,
I am "over it". It is YOU who his whining, and utterly without a clue.
Carchar king wrote:
and how can the universe expand. That's pretty much impossible.
Really? Why is it impossible? Care to explain why you think that?

In any case? The Universe >>DID<< expand rapidly.

That right there? PROVES IT IS POSSIBLE.

And it also proves that YOU are a low grade moron.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#608 May 4, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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LOL, now if you were to suffer yourself, by burning yourself in fire, and say God isn't real because I got hurt, wasn't it you're own decision to jump in a fire, same for others, so everyone that suffers made the wrong decisions in life and suffers the consequences, God is not going to help people who decide to do the wrong things and don't believe in him. So I hoped you read this, because suffering is no argument against God.
And now, you come up with pure nonsense that I'm an atheist when I'm not, do you have a brain cell or two
Hey! Low-grade moron! Yes, YOU, Carchar...!

Threatening an atheist with hell?

Is the EXACT SAME as threatening YOU with Gargomil of the Smirfs.

... seriously.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#609 May 4, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Until you realize his real, well, no surprise from the atheists who believe to know everything, yet can't disprove god, now until I get the proof that disproves God, then I have no worries about you blabbering atheists calling me a creationist moron when you are a disrespectful creature, that doesn't realize, they are being the evil one.
It's like Star Wars, you are Darth Vader, who thinks his the Good guy, but actually is the bad guy.
But if god exists, why doesn't everybody know? Seems only fair god would let us know before it's too late.
But you are a moron if you believe the creation story.
You believe plants can grow and live without the sun?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#610 May 4, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
They didn't. If the basic Big Bang thoery is true, then they are both uncaused.
<quoted text>
Actually, this is false, but also irrelevant.
There are ways of making explosions constructive: they provide the directed energy needed to, for example, weld things together:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosion_weldin...
But this is irrelevant because the Big bang was NOT a conventional explosion. In typical explosions, a sudden release of gas expands outward into the space around, causing a density wave. In the Big bang, it was space itself that expands. No pressure wave is generated and the expansion happens *everywhere*, not outward from a fixed position.
<quoted text>
Which do not hold when quantum effects are studied. In fact, it is quite common at the quantum level for matter to come spontaneously into existence and spontaneously disappear. When this happens, we say there is a quantum fluctuation involving virtual particles. This effect has been measured and agrees with quantum theory.
<quoted text>
Have you ever looked enough into the science to know what it actually says as opposed to what popularizations say? Have you ever looked at it enough to know what the *evidence* is and how it is important?
No, of course not.
Either Carchar king is a poe? Or else he really is a low grade moron, barely functional, and barely literate.

It's kind of sad to see, though.

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